Jonah Died and went to Hell

Satan needed permission from God to attack Job. Look it up.

Yes, I understand it was a living sacrifice. Christ as eternal God and not a man as us cannot literally die . A outward demonstration to show the unseen spiritual value of one giving their Spirit life in jeopardy to oneself or in the case of Christ. The father and the Son .Can't have one without the other. loving authority plus willing submissiveness of the Son , A mutual work of submission . The father poured out the wrath a suffering more than we could bear. The Son bore it and when weak the Son again cried our all three times until the work of the two was finished

The blood of animals could never take way the wage of sin .Its a spiritual work. The lifeless spiritless blood must be poured out to show the unseen work of the spirit.

Hebrews 10: For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

LOL I can't wait for the nonsensical answer

yes the soul of living mankind. They have spirit life the breath of oxygen .


The breathless dead know nothing, hear nothing. feel nothing .Have no desire to do nothing. They have no spirit life needed to contemplate (think)

The soul is the contemplations of the mind the result of a living spirit. Can't separate the soul from the life breath of the spirit.

But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth. For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him. Job 23: 13-14

I would say Jonas was born again being resurrected given a new spirt a soul in the belly of the fish as a reason of his living suffering (hell).God answered his prayer strengthening Jonas enabling him to finish the three day work of faith (the unseen), as a labor of the Holy Fathers love..


Its appointed for all men to die once as the one wage of sin death.. And then comes the execution. The letter of the law "death" is tossed into the judgment of God having it in view of the mercy of God , therefore never to rise to condemn by corruption a whole creation. And those dead asleep in Christ along with those still reigning with Christ by faith on earth. . on the last day will rise up together to receive the goal of their faith with those asleep our mutual living hope a new incorruptible body never to die. All in the twinkling of the eye.

I agree with your post except for that he was literally dead like the lost those who know not God. Born dead and separated from God.

Elijah who represents the prophets as the unseen spirit of the law like Lazarus another prophet were used in a parable, a shadow of the unseen. Those shadows pointed towards Christ our High Priest continually after the manner of Melchezedek, without mother or father, beginning or end of Spirt life. The author and finisher of Spirit life.

I think parables in that way can teach us how to walk by faith, the unseen and not after what the eyes see. Parables as the signified tongue. I would offer it can aid in helping "coming along side"(para) that of the literal interpretation in that way.They do not change the literal historical accuracy but offer another understanding that I call the gospel understanding . . possibly a richer understanding, likened to honey or hidden manna spoken of in Revelation 2..

I would offer. It would seem to be a brief summary or general survey of the principle in chapter 9 that aid each other. The golden bowl of faith as the prayer of saints has broken, they are no longer under the Sun (time restraint ) The temporal time of suffering had ended. They have no memory of the former things. The source of faith as the pitcher is shattered at the fountain, the wheel used to draw living water of the gospel is broken . For God now accepts the good works we offer toward his name.

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works. Eccl.5-7

It would offer. It says he was right seeing things not their puffed up by ones flesh mind .According to Colossians 2:18

Having been given and received the strong delusion to believe the lying sign as a lying wonder

Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:2 Thessalonians 2 :9-11

When the legion of workers with familiar spirits as lying spirts (they always come as many.) And therefore need to put a face as a idol image to distinguish one god from another. When the legion is called up not brought down inspired from above . we can know it was not a answer from god. The Catholics have the same legion or worker with familiar spirits that they must call patron saints .(3500 and rapidly rising) picking up speed .

God had already shown Saul he will not commune with him ever again but he refused to believe.the lord would not answer . So like the rich man in the Luke 16 parable .he sought after another way into the unseen spirit world through necromancy.

Note ….(purple in parenthesis) my added comment to try and make a poaint.

And when Saul enquired of the Lord, the Lord answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets.
Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and "bring me him" up, (not inspired from abaove but earthly of the devil) whom I shall name unto thee.And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die? And Saul sware to her by the Lord, saying, As the Lord liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing. Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel. And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul. And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods (legion) ascending out of the earth. And he said unto her, What form is he of? (image idol) And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul (having received the strong delusion ) perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. (worshipped the illusion) And Samuel (having received the strong delusion ) said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do. 1 Samuel 28:6-15

Hey don't let it happen again...😉😉😏 The spelling bee will sting ya

Dust Thou ART & unto dust thou shall return , If you believe that your not going to never die , Then what you believe makes GOD a lier , you believe Satan over GOD , GOD said in the day that you eat , you shall surely die . Satan told Eve That she would surely not die .Satan lied lied she died . Now I believe GOD & who are you going to believe ??????? GOD bless as HE sees fit

God's revealed written Word says we will never die In the words of Jesus:

“I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me will live, even though he dies.
And everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”

Very Much so , But that don't change the fact that they died , Resurrection means bring them back from the dead . To be dead or asleep is not to know anything , Ecc 9:4-10 .the BIBLE explains it's the best .

Ecclesiastes is not exactly the cornerstone of our Faith.

Its appointed for all die the first death, the death of the flesh and blood body. But because believers are given a new spirit and new heart they will rise on the last day and receive the promise of their new incorruptible bodies that will never die .Its is our living hope that moves us forward by faith the unseen. . The letter of the law will no longer be condemn and corrupt a entire creation .Until the last day not one jot or title will be removed.

There will be those who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord. Just saying...it is appointed for every man once to die is a general statement about man. There are exceptions which only prove the rule.

The ones love GOD , Believe UNTO obedience , The one that believe unto righteousness , And this faith that gives the strength To keep GODs commandments , That revelation 12:17 & 14:12 & 22:14 Says that HIS saints will be DOING .

Really sinners & the saved Both die twice , The sinners haft to die ,the first & second death , The saints haft to die out to the flesh or sin , & die the first death , or be changed , to A body liking to JESUS's body .GOD bless as HE sees fit .

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Jesus did die. they buried Him

I don't know how you manage it, but you have the events of Jesus death so muddied that it is better not to read the post

There is no second death, as in double jeopardy and retrial . Death as the letter of the law. It was conquered by Christ.The letter of the law will be tossed in the fiery judgment of this creation. Not people. They are already dead shown by the sea giving them up .The sea of judgment .Sea as to salt indicates judgment salt is used in every ceremonial sacrifice to indicate the spirit judgment in that way..

The gospel in that way is made of living water the gospel called fresh water .

James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield "salt water" and fresh.

Their bodies having returned to the dust and their temporal corrupted spirit return to the father who gave it under the letter of the law.

The letter of the law or those who known not Christ will not rise forever and ever. There will be no change for those who have no new spirit and heart.

No. But if you did read those verses in Ecclesiastes you would see the PROOF for why Jonah did NOT DIE.


Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.


Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God.

Reward from Sheol By God due to Prayer.

Jonah 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the Lord.

Reward from Sheol by God due to Prayer.

Psalm 40:2-3
2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

3 And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the Lord.

Reward from Sheol by God due to Prayer.


I could keep going but I think you get it.

The scriptures are always in harmony and don't contradict. So lets analyse what Solomon is saying. We will put the surrounding verses:

Ecclesiastes 9
3 This is an evil in all that is done under the sun: that one thing happens to all. Truly the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil; madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead. 4 But for him who is joined to all the living there is hope, for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
5 For the living know that they will die;
But the dead know nothing,
And they have no more reward,
For the memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished;
Nevermore will they have a share
In anything done under the sun.

- This piece's CONTEXT is between the red verses above. The context is "what is done under the sun" - in other words the activities on mankind on the earth.
-The Dead DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS ON THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH. THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF THE GOINGS ON ANYMORE. THEY DONT KNOW WHO THE PRESIDENT OF THE US IS. THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE DOING, etc. THEY KNOW NOTHING.

Lets repost the above verses but with the "Dead" inserted to bring the verses to life (mind the anti-pun)


3 This is an evil in all that is done under the sun: that one thing happens to all. Truly the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil; madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead. 4 But for him who is joined to all the living there is hope, for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
5 For the living know that they will die;
But the dead know nothing,
And the dead have no more reward,
For the memory of the dead is forgotten.
6 Also their (the dead's) love, their (the dead's) hatred, and their (the dead's) envy have now perished;
Nevermore will the dead have a share
In anything done under the sun.

Reading this now makes sense in light of the above explanation.