Not By Works

How can anyone disagree with this?

I red X your words.

You red X scripture.

Says it all.

By grace, we have been saved indeed.

We have not been saved by imputation.

Now now, dcon.
We all play the stooge sometime.

No, you red x scripture. you don’t like our interpretation of that scripture.

just like we reject your interpretation of scripture

Why are you having a hard time understanding that God "imputes" righteousness? (Romans 4:6) The word "impute" simply means to charge or put to one's account. Other translations say "credits" or "reckons." It's not painful and is the only way in the eyes of God that we will be seen as righteous. Apart from the righteousness of God in Him, we remain clothed in our own filthy rags of righteousness/our sins remain.

What's painful was for Jesus to become sin for us on the cross. 2 Corinthians 5:17 - For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that WE might become the righteousness of God in Him.

You “maintain” your salvation. Sad.

so 6164 pages of posts, and all it come to down is the reason for the resurrection, to be forgiven for all past and future sins, on the proviso that you repent and distance yourself from the world and its desires. So, if you go to church Sunday, then go to Las Vegas to gamble, watch pole dancers, and have a night with a prostitute, then woe betide you. Its one or the other, its Jesus and his way, or its the worlds way, you cant have both. And yes, preventing sin is a lifelong process, do it wilfully and take the resurrection for granted, then see you in the other place no one wants to visit.

The 'Beating a Dead-horse Forum'.

What’s your point?

Both.

Jesus said

Mark 9:23
23 Jesus said to him, “If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.”

So Jesus is saying "If"

The man replies I do believe but there seems to be can overcome the "If"

So there is a nagging doubt.
Let's not forget that the boy was possessed from childhood.

So in a sense the father is saying I believe but part of me is struggling with it. Please help me. You say if and I do if, help me change from if to it's true.

It's not dissimilar to what we experience in our walk.

Simple example.

Jesus said that God loves us as much as he loves Jesus.

That is true but how many Christians believe that?
My experience is not many.

So the question asked is "Jesus if that's true then please help me to accept this truth"

It's accepting the truth. Replacing the "If" of it might true with the reality that it is.

That is why the father said "I need help to overcome the unbelief that I'm struggling with"

Not really.....this thread has covered, salvation, justification, ongoing sanctification, and thousands of scriptures and scriptural truths....MANY have opened their eyes and come online with the truth of SALVATION IS BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH AND EYERNALLY GIVEN....it has also exposed the religiously inept blather of people like PS.....and the absolute truth....when I made this threa I prayed to God that he would make it the longest thread in CC history and keep it forefront to defend his truth......ONE EITHER stands with GOD AND THE TRUTH or they oppose it......this is a spiritual war with eternal consequence!

Mistakenly gave that post a laughing face ...and just realized ...whew agree absolutely ...no laughing face for that post!

This post is just for you dear, so you can give me my just desert; a big fat red mark.

Do you think the judge imputed his grace into the criminal in the Dock?

so 6164 pages of posts, and all it come to down is the reason for the resurrection, to be forgiven for all past and future sins, on the proviso that you repent and distance yourself from the world and its desires. So, if you go to church Sunday, then go to Las Vegas to gamble, watch pole dancers, and have a night with a prostitute, then woe betide you. Its one or the other, its Jesus and his way, or its the worlds way, you cant have both. And yes, preventing sin is a lifelong process, do it wilfully and take the resurrection for granted, then see you in the other place no one wants to visit.

A very faulty analogy between the Gospel and the court system.

Not really.....this thread has covered, salvation, justification, ongoing sanctification, and thousands of scriptures and scriptural truths....MANY have opened their eyes and come online with the truth of SALVATION IS BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH AND EYERNALLY GIVEN....it has also exposed the religiously inept blather of people like PS.....and the absolute truth....when I made this threa I prayed to God that he would make it the longest thread in CC history and keep it forefront to defend his truth......ONE EITHER stands with GOD AND THE TRUTH or they oppose it......this is a spiritual war with eternal consequence!

tend to be fixated on sexual sins, always bring up stuff of that nature.