Not By Works

How many times has @dcontroversal explained this!!!

It depends on what they say. I don't know them.

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We evangelicals teach that Obediance is PART OF the AGAPE LOVE, that HE poured into our heart (human spirit), Rom. 5:5; and NEVER HAS BEEN PART OF SALVATION, John 14:15, & 1 John 5:3. Most of us on this site attend evangelical style of Churches that Teach OSAS.

It sounds like you have bought into the lie about OSOS, that is peddled by Armenian style of Churches ? ? ?

Ever heard of chastening.....why does God ONLY WHIP CHILDREN and not bastards.....!!!!

Because He doesn't want them to become castaways.

"...we are disciplined by the Lord so that we will not be condemned along with the world." - 1 Corinthians 11:32

But once saved always saved says that would not be necessary for that reason.

Wrong.....to yield the peaceable fruits of righteousness and he whips because HE DOES NOT CAST AWAY....that word means unusable for the task at hand and is applied unto Paul and his ministry...not his salvation.....come on guys.....start utilizing CONTEXT instead of hanging verses on a point not made by scripture.....!!

There is no condemnation for those in Christ genius.....

That is why it is important for us to have our lights trimmed and burning when He returns.

Matthew 25
25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
25:2 And five of them were wise, and five [were] foolish.
25:3 They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
25:9 But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

That's why you need to stay in Christ.

Luke 9
9:23 And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
9:25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?

I do not like your language.

I'm not seeing much grace around here.

Paul was used mightily by God. He was a bad man in his previous life. Have you ever thought of asking God to do the same.

Some people are hard of hearing

they keep being told 2+2=4. Yet they keep insisting we say 2+2=5, then get mad when we correct them and tell them no, we have said all along it is 4.

Yep

faith plus works. Here we have it in a nutshell yet he will deny it,

sad

God gives us much more than that

yet He also showed us we can not obey them all perfectly, and we will never live up to his standard. That’s WHY he came to earth,

you need to study the law more. It seems to have not yet brought you to Christ.

Following Jesus is not works. You ought to do it.