Spotted Wolves

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Lanolin

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There are many wolves who parade around in sheep's clothing. They are here in our midst. They are easily identified if you know what to look for. Any man that teaches that Salvation is not freely available to every man, woman and child on this Earth is teaching a false religion that is diametrically opposed to the Gospel. Jesus came and shed His precious blood at Calvary so that whosever would may come of thier own free will. The wolves teach that men do not have a free will to come to Jesus just as they are. They call anyone that disagrees with them a "free-willer". Please come to Jesus today. Let no man coming in with lies trick you into thinking Jesus will not accept all who will humbly surrender their all to Him. Mark them well who would turn the little children away from the Kingdom.

Jude 1
1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jude was addressing those of Jewish people who of course think they are born into the kingdom just by virtue of being Jewish. But its not so. thats where they get the 'elect' from, 'the chosen ones'. But even those chosen ones still must love God of their own free will not out of obligation, otherwise, its not love.
 

Nehemiah6

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If a man lack's understanding and cannot rightly divide the Truth, then He should not be leading others in the wrong direction.
That's correct. People need to be honest with themselves, and either accept the fact that they are learning spiritual truths (which means that they do not persist in their errors after being show the truth) or they are presenting what they believe to be true (which others must assess and either accept or reject). If the latter then they have a duty to present that which is found in the Bible -- not man-made doctrines.

There is no question that there is a great deal of spiritual confusion within Christendom. But we are also told to "Prove all things. Hold fast that which is good". Which means that every Christian must be a diligent student of the Word of God. And then filter all thoughts, ideas, and teaching through the filter of Scripture.
 
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There are many wolves who parade around in sheep's clothing. They are here in our midst. They are easily identified if you know what to look for. Any man that teaches that Salvation is not freely available to every man, woman and child on this Earth is teaching a false religion that is diametrically opposed to the Gospel. Jesus came and shed His precious blood at Calvary so that whosever would may come of thier own free will. The wolves teach that men do not have a free will to come to Jesus just as they are. They call anyone that disagrees with them a "free-willer". Please come to Jesus today. Let no man coming in with lies trick you into thinking Jesus will not accept all who will humbly surrender their all to Him. Mark them well who would turn the little children away from the Kingdom.

Jude 1
1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling [words], having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
I believe "Spotted Wolves" deny grace. They say anyone can save themselves apart from grace simply by choosing to do so. Not knowing people cannot discern which Christ is the true one unless first born again by God's grace.
 
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No one preaches this nonsense.
Most do. They all say you must respond to God = self salvation. Grace saves those who cannot believe, making them repentant believers.
 

mailmandan

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In John 6:44 doesn't Jesus say that no one can come to him unless the Father draws them? (is this what's happening?)

And doesn't Paul maybe (if it's Paul) write that God (the Father, maybe) will have mercy on who he has mercy and that he will harden who he hardens?

Isn't who is saved a choice that God (the Father?) makes?
Although it is our responsibility to choose to believe in Christ unto salvation and we will be held accountable for unbelief (John 3:18), saving belief in Christ is never exclusively a matter of human decision. Unless the Father draws us (John 6:44) and enables us/it's granted to us by the Father (John 6:65), we would NEVER come to Christ and believe in Him unto salvation (John 3:15,16,18) all by ourselves. The approach of the soul to Christ is initiated by the Father, but He doesn't force us to come to Christ, we must choose to come to Him. The impulse to coming to Christ and believing in Him unto salvation comes from God.
 

mailmandan

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In regards to wolves who parade around in sheep's clothing and are here in our midst..

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oyster67

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Although it is our responsibility to choose to believe in Christ unto salvation and we will be held accountable for unbelief (John 3:18), saving belief in Christ is never exclusively a matter of human decision. Unless the Father draws us (John 6:44) and enables us/it's granted to us by the Father (John 6:65), we would NEVER come to Christ and believe in Him unto salvation (John 3:15,16,18) all by ourselves. The approach of the soul to Christ is initiated by the Father, but He doesn't force us to come to Christ, we must choose to come to Him. The impulse to coming to Christ and believing in Him unto salvation comes from God.
What a wonderful God we serve! He first gave us existence as mind, body, and soul. He then gave us fellowship with Him in the Garden. He then gave His only begotten Son that we might find our way back after the Fall. He then created a beautiful place for all those who would humbly accept in total surrender.

Then some wise guy comes along and starts saying that some are ineligible to make the decision to surrender their all to His Son. God has made an eternal home for them as well. We must warn them and show their victims the way. The Spirit does it's part, but we need to do ours also. We are commanded to contend for the faith. This has nothing to do with salvation by works btw.

Acts 17
17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
 

Chester

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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him . . . John 3:16

Anyone who believes in Jesus will be saved. Salvation is open to all who believe.

A problem arises when one tries to use only the human mind to try to understand God. It goes like this:
(1) God knows everything
(2) So God know everyone who will be saved
(3) And so since God knows everyone who will be saved, then no one else has any chance of being saved
(4) Hence God only died for those who will be saved and their choice is not involved in their being saved

Try this one:
(1) God knows everything
(2) So the next intersection you come to God already know which direction you will turn
(3) And so since he knows which way you will turn, you have no choice but to turn that way

Ha! Think about that all you want, but you will still have to choose which way you are going to turn at the next intersection you come to! (but of course it is also true that God knows it)

The free will of man and the sovereignty of God only conflict when we use only human reasoning.
 

Nehemiah6

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...They all say you must respond to God...
Did Peter or Paul preach so-called *self-salvation* or do you not really know what the Bible teaches? If you don't you should be learning instead of trying to teach (mislead) others.

PETER SAID YOU MUST RESPOND TO GOD
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, [CONVICTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT] and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:37,38)

PETER AGAIN SAID YOU MUST RESPOND TO GOD
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord (Acts 3:19)

PAUL SAID YOU MUST RESPOND TO GOD
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? [CONVICTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT] And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:30,31)

PAUL AGAIN SAID YOU MUST RESPOND TO GOD AND HIS COMMAND
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (Acts 17:30)

Now that you know the truth, will you abandon your man-made doctrines or persist in your false beliefs and false teachings? That will tell us whether you are a wolf or not.
 

Whispered

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Bible Animals: Wolf
Wolf in the ancient World.
olf in Easton's Bible Dictionary Heb. zeeb, frequently referred to in Scripture as an emblem of treachery and cruelty. Jacob's prophecy, "Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf" (Gen. 49:27), represents the warlike character of that tribe (see Judg. 19-21). Isaiah represents the peace of Messiah's kingdom by the words, "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb" (Isa. 11:6). The habits of the wolf are described in Jer. 5:6; Hab. 1:8; Zeph. 3:3; Ezek. 22:27; Matt. 7:15; 10:16; Acts 20:29. Wolves are still sometimes found in Israel, and are the dread of shepherds, as of old.
https://www.bible-history.com/eastons/W/Wolf/


Wolf in Fausset's Bible Dictionary zeeb. The Canis lupus. Fierce (Genesis 49:27; Ezekiel 22:27; Habakkuk 1:8; Matthew 7:15); prowling in the night (Jeremiah 5:6; Zephaniah 3:3); devouring lambs and sheep (John 10:12); typifying persecutors and heretical leaders (Matthew 10:16; Matthew 7:15; Acts 20:29); hereafter about to associate peacefully with the lamb under Messiah's reign (Isaiah 11:6; Isaiah 65:25). Tawny in color in Asia Minor.
https://www.bible-history.com/faussets/W/Wolf/


Wolf in Naves Topical Bible -Ravenous Ge 49:27; Jer 5:6; Eze 22:27; Zep 3:3; Joh 10:12 -FIGURATIVE Of the enemies of the righteous Mt 7:15; 10:16; Joh 10:12; Ac 20:29 Of the reconciling power of the gospel Isa 11:6
https://www.bible-history.com/naves/W/WOLF/


Wolf in Smiths Bible Dictionary There can be little doubt that the wolf of Israel is the common Canis lupus, and that this is the animal so frequently mentioned in the Bible. (The wolf is a fierce animal of the same species as the dog, which it resembles. The common color is gray with a tinting of fawn, and the hair is long and black. The Syrian wolf is of lighter color than the wolf of Europe it is the dread of the shepherds of Israel. --ED.) Wolves were doubtless far more common in biblical times than they are now, though they are occasionally seen by modern travellers. The following are the scriptural allusions to the wolf: Its ferocity is mentioned in Ge 49:27, Eze 22:27; Habb 1:8; Matt 7:15 its nocturnal habits, in Jer 5:6; Zep 3:3; Habb 1:8 its attacking sheep and lambs, Mt 10:16; Lu 10:3; Joh 10:12 Isaiah Isa 11:6; 65:25 foretells the peaceful reign of the Messiah under the metaphor of a wolf dwelling with a lamb: cruel persecutors are compared with wolves. Mt 10:16; Ac 20:29
https://www.bible-history.com/smiths/W/Wolf/

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7seasrekeyed

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Most do. They all say you must respond to God = self salvation. Grace saves those who cannot believe, making them repentant believers.

of course you cannot say which 'they' because they, that is the they of your consideration, do not exist
 
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#34
Did Peter or Paul preach so-called *self-salvation* or do you not really know what the Bible teaches? If you don't you should be learning instead of trying to teach (mislead) others.

PETER SAID YOU MUST RESPOND TO GOD
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, [CONVICTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT] and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:37,38)

PETER AGAIN SAID YOU MUST RESPOND TO GOD
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord (Acts 3:19)

PAUL SAID YOU MUST RESPOND TO GOD
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? [CONVICTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT] And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:30,31)

PAUL AGAIN SAID YOU MUST RESPOND TO GOD AND HIS COMMAND
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (Acts 17:30)

Now that you know the truth, will you abandon your man-made doctrines or persist in your false beliefs and false teachings? That will tell us whether you are a wolf or not.
Here's how it works. Jesus says whoever believes has eternal life. Only believers (the saved according to Jesus) will ask and do what any Apostle tells a person to do. They believe or they would not ask and obey.