The One World Religion of the Tribulation.

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I often wondered what the One World Religion of the Revelations will consist of and the origins. Will it be of Eastern Philosophy, Islamic, Humanism(Even that's not really an official religion), Pagan, etc. None of these really seem to fit according to scripture. One that seems to be the most applicable would be a distorted form of Christianity. The unholy trinity, The rule of one leader(The Beast/Christ's Millennium Kingdom), the False Prophet(His Apostle), the resurrection(Satan incarnate), the Mark( God's seal). Now this all speculative on my part.

The reason I contemplated this was due to watching some videos and reading of a specific Church that has wide spread influence via their Music Ministry. Of course I am talking about Bethel Church. Why is this Charismatic Church so different from others, simply put its their doctrine and teaching on " Dominionism" and the Churches close ties with Lance Wallnau( 7 Mountains Ministry). The core of the doctrine is essentially to covert all nations into a supposed Christian Theocracy by Political means.

This particular Church has a congregation of about 9,000 and is heavily involved in church planting. The teachings of this Church's views on Jesus, salvation, the Holy Spirit, are not of Biblical truths. The influence they have on younger people is truly astonishing. They don't know the Jesus of the Gospel. This is one reason I could see the world religion of the tribulation being linked to a heretical form of Christianity. Again, this just my speculation.

The BEAST Is the Papacy , He got the deadly wound 1798, Is when Napoleon Bonaparte ,Put the Papacy in prison Where he died, This separated the Church & STATE , that the Papacy used to kill the CHRISTIANS, The Papacy tells you what HIS MARK IS, Catholic record Sept, 1 1923 Sunday is our mark of authority, The church is above the BIBLE, and this transference of SABBATH observance is proof of that fact, Daniel 7:25 tells you that he would seek to change times and laws, He seek to change BUT can't change it, For it is GODs LAW, Seek to change, this means That he can't, And most of the world is keeping sunday, And following the Papacy, And walking on GODs HOLY SABBATH DAY, BUT the BIBLE says that he would deceive the whole world, So sunday is his mark,
The Image is, Church & state coming back together, Church & state is already back together at the Vatican City, But it's going to be CHURCH & State right here in the U.S.A. So the U.S.A. is Going to creat the the Image to the Beast, witch Is church & state coming together here in the U.S.A. And make laws that will cause the persecution of the saints, Like Rome did , and killed the Christians,
So the Image will be church & state here in the U.S.A. LIKE Rome did, And the U.S.A. Will Make Laws That will try to enforce Sunday laws, on GODs people, Which will be worship to the Papacy, Because sunday sanctification comes from the Papacy , AND not GOD,
Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness, SO when the Laws come, And those who chose to keep sunday, Will be choosing to persecute GODs COMANDMENT KEEPING People, And worship the Papacy by obeying the Papacy instead of GOD, By their sunday
traditions , My Papaw kept sunday till he death, But I don't think he had heard or knew about the SABBATH, So GOD dose not judge him for what he don't know, And it will not be counted as sin against him IF HE DIDN'T KNOW, BUT I know and have heard about GODs SABBATH DAY, AND if I don't keep GODs SABBATH, IT WILL be CONUNTED as SIN FOR ME & the others that has heard & know. And still keep their traditions Over GODs HOLY WORD, And make HIS WORD of no EFACT .
1. THE BEAST = Papacy The little HORN in Daniel, = A little Nation , About 108 acres
2. His MARK will be Sunday, When sunday laws come, PEOPLE will then haft to CHOSE who they will worship, BY who they obey.
2. His mark = Sunday when the laws COME.
3. The Image to the BEAST, Will be Church & state, HERE in the U.S.A. like it was in Rome, And persecuted GODs people, So will the U.S.A.
4. HOW dose a nation speak ? By it LAWS, So the IMAGE is going to speak by it's LAWS AND put GOD people to death by it's LAWS like Rome did. GOD bless as HE sees fit, GOOD NIGHT TO all OF YOU. :sleep::sleep::sleep::sleep:
 

Jackson123

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May be start with unification between catholic and muslim

An article from Catholic Herald say, pope and muslim leader sign document about Being one world religion.

Than they may invite whoever want to joint them and when they strong, they may force every body joint or No buy or sale like rev 13

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Q. Recently, Pope Francis signed a document with Muslim leaders about there being one world religion. How can that be? Some of my non-Catholic friends are accusing the pope of being out of line. What really happened? (Batesville, Ark.)

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Link

https://www.catholicherald.com/home.aspx
 

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That religion is Atheism. It will uproot the other three major religions by their roots.

What is being taught by these three major religions is untenable, even Christianity. Surely, a snake did not speak to Eve and the same snake did not tempt Jesus; this literalism that is being taught is not sustainable. Generations to come will be much brighter and won't have such a teaching, they'll reject it.
 

Jackson123

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KAn article from catholic community forum indicate there is an effort to unified between catholic and Muslim. It say we adore the same god

https://www.catholicforum.com/forums/forum.php?s=c35bcdf3eb205f981fc4343ab702d0e3

  1. Lumen Gentium 16: Islam

    From Lumen Gentium, Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, article 16:

    But
    Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God. In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh. On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues. But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and breath and all things, and as Saviour wills that all men be saved. Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel. She knows that it is given by Him who enlightens all men so that they may finally have life. But often men, deceived by the Evil One, have become vain in their reasonings and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, serving the creature rather than the Creator. Or some there are who, living and dying in this world without God, are exposed to final despair. Wherefore to promote the glory of God and procure the salvation of all of these, and mindful of the command of the Lord, "Preach the Gospel to every creature", the Church fosters the missions with care and attention.
    Specifically, regarding the passage that pertains to Islam: it's interesting to note that the authors of this document have written that the Mohamedans “profess to hold the faith of Abraham” (indeed, a good deal of Abraham’s history in the Qur’an differs markedly from the accounts in the Septuagint). But in any case, I wonder about the phrase “along with us [they] adore the one and merciful God.” If there is only one God, how can persons believing that God dispatched a definitive revelation to an Arabian shepherd some six centuries after the time of Christ be said to believe in the same God as Christians? By my lights, the two concepts appear to be manifestly dissimilar (and certainly not unified).

    John Paul II, however, endorsed this "one God" approach on more than a single occasion, reiterating: “We believe in the same God, the one God, the living God, the God who created the world and brings his creatures to their perfection.”

    At best, the wording of this section of Lumen Gentium seems horribly ill-advised. At worst, it could be (and has been, by some) construed as an instance of the conciliar Church propagating error. Any thoughts?​

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Jackson123

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Seem to me there are some indication an effort to unite Muslim and catholic

In today Indonesian news paper say that commission 7 of Indonesian congress approve to build a tunnel that link the biggest mosque in iñdonesia to katederal , Catholic Church close by to strengthen brotherhood

https://www.instagram.com/detikcom/

This link is in Indonesians but we can use google translate
 

Jackson123

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This article say it is underground tunnel that will ling the biggest mosque in Indonesia and Catholic Church near by.

It is same information but more detail,

I do not know why underground, what is the real reason, is that to hide secret meetings from reporter, only them and God know.

Why not make tunnel from palace to ministry office?



https://manado.antaranews.com/berit...owongan-bawah-tanah-dari-istiqlal-ke-katedral
 

Jackson123

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If you go to google map the istiqal mosque and gereja katederal/cathedral church is about 1/4 mile

What is the urgency to make underground tunnel

Presidential palace is close to army base and they not make underground tunnel.

raises big questions for me whether there is a secret agenda?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Not that I am political(my king is continuous) but have you looked into any of the candidates religious views?
Yes.

i also am looking at so many people response to those candidates. and how divided this country is, reminds me of Rome at the end before it collapsed,

that’s why I can not believe people will give their lives to a religious candidatewhen the worlds religious system divides people more than It unites them
 
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I could be wrong, but have believed for some time that the temple would be more along the lines of the original tabernacle built by Moses because they have the actual blue prints in the Law for it....
The actual temple itself I agree, it will be the buildings around It that make it so spectacular much like the temple in Jesus day.

i think people forget. When they were looking at the temple and admiring it. Jesus said all these Buildings (plural) that they were admiring, including the actual temple and most holy place itself), not one stone will be left.

eyewitness accounts of those who witnessed the city of david and temple are after Rome was done, said it looked like nothing ever stood there. even a few hundred years later. People went and said they could hardly believe there was ever a city or grand temple there, there was no evidence of it, even the foundations stones were dug up and destroyed (according to some, it is because of the great fire, the heat got so hot. The gold melted, and the romans dug up everything to make sure they got every drip of Gold. To carry back to Rome.
 
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Don't believe they will build another temple.
I would love to explain why I believe the way I do, but it is not possible on this site. Not enough time.
I am quickly loosing my sight and it is very difficult to see this PC's screen and type.

Time to go.
Well prophesy states otherwise,

unless someone can explain hw prophesy should not be taken literally, as a means to prove God is the one true God of the universe, then I will continue to put my faith that when God says something will happen, he will.

sorry about your eye site,
 
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I often wondered what the One World Religion of the Revelations will consist of and the origins. Will it be of Eastern Philosophy, Islamic, Humanism(Even that's not really an official religion), Pagan, etc. None of these really seem to fit according to scripture. One that seems to be the most applicable would be a distorted form of Christianity. The unholy trinity, The rule of one leader(The Beast/Christ's Millennium Kingdom), the False Prophet(His Apostle), the resurrection(Satan incarnate), the Mark( God's seal). Now this all speculative on my part.

The reason I contemplated this was due to watching some videos and reading of a specific Church that has wide spread influence via their Music Ministry. Of course I am talking about Bethel Church. Why is this Charismatic Church so different from others, simply put its their doctrine and teaching on " Dominionism" and the Churches close ties with Lance Wallnau( 7 Mountains Ministry). The core of the doctrine is essentially to covert all nations into a supposed Christian Theocracy by Political means.

This particular Church has a congregation of about 9,000 and is heavily involved in church planting. The teachings of this Church's views on Jesus, salvation, the Holy Spirit, are not of Biblical truths. The influence they have on younger people is truly astonishing. They don't know the Jesus of the Gospel. This is one reason I could see the world religion of the tribulation being linked to a heretical form of Christianity. Again, this just my speculation.

Thoughts, opinions, criticism.
People read prophecy as a means of foretelling the future. Normally, we do not understand it until it's fulfilled and we look back on it seeing the miraculous nature. I can look back and see a one world religion in the Papacy. Covering the whole world as it then stood according to the bible. We need to be more concerned about historic events confirming prophecy as God fulfills it than in making wild predictions of the future.
 

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Yes.

i also am looking at so many people response to those candidates. and how divided this country is, reminds me of Rome at the end before it collapsed,

that’s why I can not believe people will give their lives to a religious candidatewhen the worlds religious system divides people more than It unites them

lol, I agree

For quite a while now I have looked at the different religious views of politicians in different nations because of the things being discussed in this thread. I would think "man of lawlessness" would indicate lack of law(religious) and not as intended as "criminal"(lawbreaker of mans law).

I see also that people are tending to give their support to candidates who do not adhere to religious affiliations. The current front runners in the polls in the US are a good example of this but I think many do not really see what they are saying or doing to mean anything Biblical. While one is openly homosexual https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/ed...-essays/2000-winning-essay-by-peter-buttigieg the other says he is not that religious or avoids it https://www.cnn.com/2016/04/14/politics/bernie-sanders-religion/index.html

In the one case if any one of us were to say "I am who I am", whether Christian or Jewish it would be seen as reference to Exodus 3:14 and a claim to being God but it seems to be not understood by many people anymore as such. The many who are looking for that man(and his name in Greek) may not even realize that much like Bernie being a shortened form of Bernard also Sanders is the shortened form of Alexander(the great) that is "protector/Alex, Xander/man so Xander becomes "Sanders" Alexander=potector of man .