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lightbearer

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From the time of Moses God has said this,

And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. For this commandment which I command thee this day ( TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law,) , it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? But the word ( TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law,)is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. For God has said, the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
(Deu 30:6, 10-14 KJV)



SO Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ (the word, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law,) down from above:) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ (the word, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law,) again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law,)is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
(Rom 10:4-8 KJV)

For by one offering he hath PERFECTED for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us (IN REGARDS TO THIS PERFECTNESS): for after that he had said before, This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws (Christ through which the word, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law,) into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
(Heb 10:14-16 KJV)

THIS is the Word of Faith that we preach! The word (Christ, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law,)is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart that is the word of Faith that we preach. For Christ (through which the Word, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law,)is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart) is the end of the law (On tables of Stone and parchment) for righteousness to every one that believeth.

A NEW MINISTRATION, Written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
(2Co 3:3-9 KJV)


Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures...... Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word (The New Ministration,the new Creature, through Christ the Engrafted word, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, is in our hearts, and in our minds), which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, (the new Creature, through Christ the Engrafted word, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, is in our hearts, and in our minds), and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any be a hearer of the word, (the new Creature, through Christ the Engrafted word, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, is in our hearts, and in our minds), and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face (the new Creature, through Christ) in a glass: For he beholdeth himself,(the new Creature, through Christ) and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was (the new Creature, through Christ) . But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty (the new Creature, through Christ), and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
(Jas 1:18-25 KJV)

If ye fulfil the royal law (the Ten Commandments) according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty (The New Ministration, the new Creature, through Christ the Engrafted word, TO hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, is in our hearts, and in our minds) .
(Jas 2:8-12 KJV)
 

Whispered

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Perhaps this older article fits here. There is also a video at the link.
SCIENTISTS FINALLY READ THE OLDEST BIBLICAL TEXT EVER FOUND
The charred lump of scroll sat in an archaeologist’s office, impossible to read without destroying it – until now
  • Andrew Griffin
  • Thursday 22 September 2016

Scientists have finally been able to read the oldest biblical text ever found.

The 2,000-year-old scroll has been in the hands of archaeologists for decades. But it hasn’t been possible to read it, since it was too dangerous to open the charred and brittle scroll.

Scientists have now been able to read it, using special imaging technology that can look into what’s inside. And it has found what was in there: the earliest evidence of a biblical text in its standardised form. Continues

Sixty-six books in the Protestant Bible and yet, how many scrolls have we found that could be said to be inspired and God's word? God never stops talking to His children and leading us in the way we should go. The searching is what gladdens the heart I think. Knowing there is more to find, and more to be learned. And I think God planned it that way so that we never think we know all He has to say. And shall not, until we meet face to face.
 

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For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.
Whom shall He teach knowledge? and whom shall He make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
For with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to this people.
To whom He said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
(Isaiah 28:8-13)


this topic has much bearing on this thread:
https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/why-wasnt-a-law-given-by-which-one-could-be-righteous.189867/
 

lightbearer

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For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.
Whom shall He teach knowledge? and whom shall He make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
For with stammering lips and another tongue will He speak to this people.
To whom He said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
(Isaiah 28:8-13)

this topic has much bearing on this thread:
https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/why-wasnt-a-law-given-by-which-one-could-be-righteous.189867/
Not at all. You say Christ through which the word, God’s laws are not in the heart and mind. God says different. This what is Word tells us through His Spirit. This what this topic puts forth.
 

lightbearer

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Perhaps this older article fits here. There is also a video at the link.
SCIENTISTS FINALLY READ THE OLDEST BIBLICAL TEXT EVER FOUND
The charred lump of scroll sat in an archaeologist’s office, impossible to read without destroying it – until now
  • Andrew Griffin
  • Thursday 22 September 2016

Scientists have finally been able to read the oldest biblical text ever found.

The 2,000-year-old scroll has been in the hands of archaeologists for decades. But it hasn’t been possible to read it, since it was too dangerous to open the charred and brittle scroll.

Scientists have now been able to read it, using special imaging technology that can look into what’s inside. And it has found what was in there: the earliest evidence of a biblical text in its standardised form. Continues

Sixty-six books in the Protestant Bible and yet, how many scrolls have we found that could be said to be inspired and God's word? God never stops talking to His children and leading us in the way we should go. The searching is what gladdens the heart I think. Knowing there is more to find, and more to be learned. And I think God planned it that way so that we never think we know all He has to say. And shall not, until we meet face to face.
“But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬