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Right-wing nutters think everything is a conspiracy
This thread isn't reporting about everything but about one thing in particular. If it weren't for Blue-wing nutters, Conspiracy wouldn't be an issue. But since that's how they govern, it is only common sense and respect for this Democratic Constitutional Republic, that keeps those who love our country alert and aware.
Anti-America nutters hate that. Which is why we persevere regardless of the pushback our enemies launch, be it that of foreign or domestic.
 

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So the colloidal silver did not protect him against pneumonia?
I think if you read the article I posted concerning his heart attack you'll learn what happened.
That doesn't, as we see, mean trollish attacks playing games with words will be educated about the matte. However, those who care to learn the truth about Paul's demise shall. And that really is all that matters here regarding Mr. Karason, whom the trollish do not respect at all.


That and the other truths regarding Colloidal Silver.

"Colloidal silver can also cause poor absorption of some drugs, such as certain antibiotics and thyroxine (used to treat thyroid deficiency). The FDA also warned in 1999 that colloidal silver isn't safe or effective for treating any disease or condition."
Colloidal Silver | NCCIH



FTC, FDA warn companies making Coronavirus claims
By: Lesley Fair | Mar 9, 2020

Colloidal Silver banned in Europe


The FDA in America does not approve Colloidal Silver:
310.548 - FDA The information on this page is current as of April 1 2019.

[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 21, Volume 5]
[Revised as of April 1, 2019]
[CITE: 21CFR310.548]



TITLE 21--FOOD AND DRUGS
CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
SUBCHAPTER D--DRUGS FOR HUMAN USE​

PART 310 -- NEW DRUGS
Subpart E--Requirements for Specific New Drugs or Devices
Sec. 310.548 Drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts offered over-the-counter (OTC) for the treatment and/or prevention of disease.

(a) Colloidal silver ingredients and silver salts have been marketed in over-the-counter (OTC) drug products for the treatment and prevention of numerous disease conditions. There are serious and complicating aspects to many of the diseases these silver ingredients purport to treat or prevent. Further, there is a lack of adequate data to establish general recognition of the safety and effectiveness of colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for OTC use in the treatment or prevention of any disease. These ingredients and salts include, but are not limited to, silver proteins, mild silver protein, strong silver protein, silver, silver ion, silver chloride, silver cyanide, silver iodide, silver oxide, and silver phosphate.
(b) Any OTC drug product containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts that is labeled, represented, or promoted for the treatment and/or prevention of any disease is regarded as a new drug within the meaning of section 201(p) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the act) for which an approved application or abbreviated application under section 505 of the act and part 314 of this chapter is required for marketing. In the absence of an approved new drug application or abbreviated new drug application, such product is also misbranded under section 502 of the act.
(c) Clinical investigations designed to obtain evidence that any drug product containing colloidal silver or silver salts labeled, represented, or promoted for any OTC drug use is safe and effective for the purpose intended must comply with the requirements and procedures governing the use of investigational new drugs as set forth in part 312 of this chapter.
(d) After September 16, 1999, any such OTC drug product containing colloidal silver or silver salts initially introduced or initially delivered for introduction into interstate commerce that is not in compliance with this section is subject to regulatory action.
[64 FR 44658, Aug. 17, 1999]
 

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Colloidal silver Health risks associated with chronic ingestion Australia.

ADRAC has received four reports of silver toxicity (argyria) following ingestion of homemade products containing colloidal silver (tiny particles of metallic silver suspended in liquid) prepared using a "colloidal silver generator": • A five-year old boy who ingested colloidal silver daily for several months developed grey discolouration of skin and tongue and abnormal hepatic function. • An elderly man who drank colloidal silver daily for six months required hospital admission for debilitating fatigue accompanied by blue skin discolouration, dilated cardiomyopathy, amnesia and incoherent speech. • An elderly man consuming liquid made using a "colloidal silver generator" over a four-year period developed grey skin discolouration. • An adult male ingesting homemade colloidal silver daily for three years and also applying it topically after shaving developed generalized skin discolouration. ... [Pg. 6]
Cont'd pg.7] There are no products containing colloidal silver There are no products containing colloidal silver approved for marketing in Australia. The ADRAC cautions that with the exception of registered topical silver preparations, there is no evidence to support the safety or efficacy of silver regardless of its form or method of manufacture; and that silver has no known nutritional benefit and its well-defined toxicity can occur with all forms of the metal, including silver salts and colloids. Argyria is the main toxicity associated with chronic ingestion or topical absorption of silver, including colloidal forms of silver. It is characterized by an irreversible, generalized blue-grey discoloration of the subepithelial layer of skin. Later, the entire skin, deep tissues, mucous membranes, nails, conjunctiva, cornea, and lens may be affected. Argyria discolouration may be misdiagnosed as cyanosis, methaemoglobinaemia or haemochromatosis. Other toxicities associated with ingested silver may include peripheral neuropathies, seizures, and haematological, cardiac, hepatic and nephrotoxic derangements. ADRAC has received no reports of argyria associated with legitimate therapeutic goods containing presentations of silver that remain appropriate, for example, topical silver nitrate for neonatal conjunctivitis or silver sulfadiazine for burns.

Reference Australian Adverse Drug Reactions Bulletin 26(5): 19, October 2007
Source: WHO Pharmaceuticals Newsletter
 

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No.
If you had read the article I linked to elaborate on what I said you'd know the article and those reporting on the death of the Blue Man said it that way.
Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. There was no indication that you were quoting some article. I thought you were "doing the talking"...
 

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I'm browsing channels late night, can't sleep. I come across One America News Network, which is my hubby's favorite because they don't cloud reporting with partisan bias. Me, I don't watch the news or read the newspapers.

In this one late night segment tonight it is all Corona virus related. All reporting. Maybe I was suppose to see this.
In Spain, their death toll to the virus has topped China. In Spain police are arresting anyone found outside because they're disobeying the lawful order to stay home. But the cops aren't doing that. What makes them immune to the virus?

A New Jersey man is facing years in prison for allegedly coughing in a woman's face and telling her he has the virus. He's being prosecuted under a terrorism law here in the U.S..
A New Jersey man has been charged with making terroristic threats after allegedly coughing in the direction of a local supermarket employee and claiming he suffered from the coronavirus
The story below. Full report is here.
. The state's attorney general, Gurbir Grewal, announced the charges against George Falcone on Tuesday.

Here's how his office explains what happened at a Wegmans supermarket on Sunday evening:


"The employee was concerned that Falcone was standing too close to her and an open display of prepared foods, so she requested that he step back as she covered the food. Instead, Falcone allegedly stepped forward to within 3 feet of her, leaned toward her, and purposely coughed. He allegedly laughed and said he was infected with the coronavirus. Falcone subsequently told two other employees they are lucky to have jobs."​

In addition to the third-degree terrorist threats charge, the attorney general's office has also accused Falcone, 50, of harassment and obstructing law or other governmental functions. All told, Grewal says the man now faces the possibility of more than six years in state prison and thousands of dollars in fines.... [more]

New York allegedly has the highest number of cases currently of CV patients. The Maryland governor today said anyone who travels in the tri-state area, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, will be required to self-quarantine for 14 days! (The Hill article) How are they going to enforce that exactly?
Florida is doing the same thing with regards to anyone who traveled to NYC in the last three weeks. Again, how are they going to ascertain this in order to insure compliance?

In China not that long ago news broadcasts showed China police members stopping cars and checking people for the virus by taking their temperature.

Sweden however is a whole different thing. Their businesses are open and opening earlier than usual to accommodate shoppers. Their PM said that they have to trust their people to do what is right during this crisis.

Our U.S military is on shutdown, all personnel ordered to stay where they are, for the next three weeks.
Military bases close to visitors, cancel events, place service members under quarantine to stop virus

Florida and Texas have been declared disaster areas by President Trump, due to Corona.
Sweden is open for business. Their businesses are opening early to accommodate shoppers. The PM there saying they have to trust their people know how to be responsible during this Corona virus pandemic. Meanwhile, the Democrats here on the hill are condemning Trump for not being more strict on business shut downs because the economy isn't worth people risking their lives to the virus.
Syria has issued a curfew order due to Corona. There's talk in America of travel ban's between states.

OK, here's the thought. Years ago there was this news story that hit the air once, and wasn't repeated after the first airing. Which is odd. The report concerned prisons being built but not populated by prisoners after construction was finished. Railroad tracks being laid behind them too. And a ghost staff manning the facilities.
As I recall these were going up in the central U.S. mainly. Many in the area thought they were to take the pressure off what was even then a huge issue of prison overcrowding in all states. Yet, those new prisons remained empty of prisoners. Of course conspiracy theorists then, this was during Bush43, were saying it was going to be a FEMA control that was going to come into power and dissidents were to be housed in those prisons. Slowly that rumor faded.

What if those prisons remain empty still? Only now with this Corona virus panic will soon be filled with people who refuse to comply with the following. Self quarantine. And also, refusing to not travel outside home state lines. Also, remember that guy who's facing terrorism charges for coughing and telling the grocery employee he had Corona?

What if those who will also populate those prisons are people who appear sick while out in public? The ultimate self-quarantine afforded by being taken into government custody for a term. When this virus is said to be able to lay dormant for 14 days before any symptoms appear, where is the red flag ? Wherever a government order plants it.
I think there are Democrats who love this, specifically bc they are getting their socialist agenda achieved.

I agree with the terrorism charges for coughing and telling the grocery employee he had Corona. If you yelled bomb on a plane you would have the same charges.... It's nothing out of the norm.

There are things that are out of the norm though especially in democratic states such as banning paint and seeds. More man made rules going on- just what we need right now.
 
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I think if you read the article I posted concerning his heart attack you'll learn what happened.
That doesn't, as we see, mean trollish attacks playing games with words will be educated about the matte. However, those who care to learn the truth about Paul's demise shall. And that really is all that matters here regarding Mr. Karason, whom the trollish do not respect at all.


That and the other truths regarding Colloidal Silver.

"Colloidal silver can also cause poor absorption of some drugs, such as certain antibiotics and thyroxine (used to treat thyroid deficiency). The FDA also warned in 1999 that colloidal silver isn't safe or effective for treating any disease or condition."
Colloidal Silver | NCCIH



FTC, FDA warn companies making Coronavirus claims
By: Lesley Fair | Mar 9, 2020

Colloidal Silver banned in Europe


The FDA in America does not approve Colloidal Silver:
310.548 - FDA The information on this page is current as of April 1 2019.

[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 21, Volume 5]
[Revised as of April 1, 2019]
[CITE: 21CFR310.548]



TITLE 21--FOOD AND DRUGS
CHAPTER I--FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
SUBCHAPTER D--DRUGS FOR HUMAN USE​

PART 310 -- NEW DRUGS
Subpart E--Requirements for Specific New Drugs or Devices
Sec. 310.548 Drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts offered over-the-counter (OTC) for the treatment and/or prevention of disease.

(a) Colloidal silver ingredients and silver salts have been marketed in over-the-counter (OTC) drug products for the treatment and prevention of numerous disease conditions. There are serious and complicating aspects to many of the diseases these silver ingredients purport to treat or prevent. Further, there is a lack of adequate data to establish general recognition of the safety and effectiveness of colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts for OTC use in the treatment or prevention of any disease. These ingredients and salts include, but are not limited to, silver proteins, mild silver protein, strong silver protein, silver, silver ion, silver chloride, silver cyanide, silver iodide, silver oxide, and silver phosphate.
(b) Any OTC drug product containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts that is labeled, represented, or promoted for the treatment and/or prevention of any disease is regarded as a new drug within the meaning of section 201(p) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (the act) for which an approved application or abbreviated application under section 505 of the act and part 314 of this chapter is required for marketing. In the absence of an approved new drug application or abbreviated new drug application, such product is also misbranded under section 502 of the act.
(c) Clinical investigations designed to obtain evidence that any drug product containing colloidal silver or silver salts labeled, represented, or promoted for any OTC drug use is safe and effective for the purpose intended must comply with the requirements and procedures governing the use of investigational new drugs as set forth in part 312 of this chapter.
(d) After September 16, 1999, any such OTC drug product containing colloidal silver or silver salts initially introduced or initially delivered for introduction into interstate commerce that is not in compliance with this section is subject to regulatory action.
[64 FR 44658, Aug. 17, 1999]
Big pharma and fda are arm in arm.
The day will come when all supplements will be either off shelves or purchased through your doctor.
The money is in synthetic drugs .big big money.
There is no true big pharma research on any supplements.

True research MUST INCLUDE the entire spectrum.
All you are doing is showing fake slanted big pharma propaganda.
Those on supplements are growing through PERSONAL RESEARCH OUTSIDE BIG OHARMA PROPAGANDA.

YOU HAVE BEEN DUPED BIG TIME.
 
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This thread isn't reporting about everything but about one thing in particular. If it weren't for Blue-wing nutters, Conspiracy wouldn't be an issue. But since that's how they govern, it is only common sense and respect for this Democratic Constitutional Republic, that keeps those who love our country alert and aware.
Anti-America nutters hate that. Which is why we persevere regardless of the pushback our enemies launch, be it that of foreign or domestic.
A tiny bit of info goes a long way
Maybe you are simply unaware of what you are supporting.
This should be your starting place;
""...Then under the deceptive cover of “safety,” seventeen years later along came the falsely entitled Food Safety Modernization Act that Obama signed into law in January 2011. It was specifically designed to do Big Pharma’s shady bidding as another draconian law that stands to allocate more taxpayer dollars to hire yet more FDA agents to shut down more organic farmers, trespassing our freedom to the extent of outlawing even vegetable gardening on our own private property. It imposes on the supplement industry proof that its products are safe with mandated independent scientific research. The irony of that preposterous ploy is that natural vitamins and minerals are far safer under current guidelines than the Big Pharma drugs known to be synthetic toxins, yet FDA protects them. This law was simply designed to enhance and protect Big Pharma, the FDA authority, the Big Agri-industry, Monsanto, GMO proliferation and attack small independent farmers and even ownership of non-GMO seeds""
From https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-p...he-vitamin-herbal-supplement-industry/5425769

Once that awareness is understood,you will see that research using big pharma parrots and puppets is pure propaganda.
Taking silver off the table and frantically doing big pharma bidding places you in a counter productive arena.
 
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Colloidal silver Health risks associated with chronic ingestion Australia.
Silver deactivates bacteria. That's why it's useful on wounds. Think of it as the ultimate antibiotic, although I don't think it carries the side effects of antibiotics. Less informed (let's be kind) people who take too much of any drug, whether it be silver or antibiotics, should expect complications. To be honest, if the worst that happens from overdosing on silver is that you turn blue and after many years of abuse, die of a stroke or heart attack, it's far safer than most (possibly all) other antibiotics.
 
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Colloidal silver Health risks associated with chronic ingestion Australia.

ADRAC has received four reports of silver toxicity (argyria) following ingestion of homemade products containing colloidal silver (tiny particles of metallic silver suspended in liquid) prepared using a "colloidal silver generator": • A five-year old boy who ingested colloidal silver daily for several months developed grey discolouration of skin and tongue and abnormal hepatic function. • An elderly man who drank colloidal silver daily for six months required hospital admission for debilitating fatigue accompanied by blue skin discolouration, dilated cardiomyopathy, amnesia and incoherent speech. • An elderly man consuming liquid made using a "colloidal silver generator" over a four-year period developed grey skin discolouration. • An adult male ingesting homemade colloidal silver daily for three years and also applying it topically after shaving developed generalized skin discolouration. ... [Pg. 6]
Cont'd pg.7] There are no products containing colloidal silver There are no products containing colloidal silver approved for marketing in Australia. The ADRAC cautions that with the exception of registered topical silver preparations, there is no evidence to support the safety or efficacy of silver regardless of its form or method of manufacture; and that silver has no known nutritional benefit and its well-defined toxicity can occur with all forms of the metal, including silver salts and colloids. Argyria is the main toxicity associated with chronic ingestion or topical absorption of silver, including colloidal forms of silver. It is characterized by an irreversible, generalized blue-grey discoloration of the subepithelial layer of skin. Later, the entire skin, deep tissues, mucous membranes, nails, conjunctiva, cornea, and lens may be affected. Argyria discolouration may be misdiagnosed as cyanosis, methaemoglobinaemia or haemochromatosis. Other toxicities associated with ingested silver may include peripheral neuropathies, seizures, and haematological, cardiac, hepatic and nephrotoxic derangements. ADRAC has received no reports of argyria associated with legitimate therapeutic goods containing presentations of silver that remain appropriate, for example, topical silver nitrate for neonatal conjunctivitis or silver sulfadiazine for burns.

Reference Australian Adverse Drug Reactions Bulletin 26(5): 19, October 2007
Source: WHO Pharmaceuticals Newsletter
I just noticed that you sought out that propaganda through
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION!!!!

WOAH....no wonder you are duped.
WHO is corrupt beyond description. Trump stopped funding to them because they are over the top radically corrupt.

Are you even aware of what you are promoting and in bed with?????


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OPINIONWikileaks Highlights The Influence “Big Pharma” Has On The World Health OrganizationPublished 2 weeks ago on April 19, 2020 By Arjun WaliaCE Staff Writer
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The World Health Organization (WHO) has been making headlines lately, and that’s due to the fact that the world is dealing with COVID-19. It’s also in large part due to the fact that President Donald Trump recently halted all funding to the WHO from the US. He accused the organization of “severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus.” This implies, in my opinion, that they were covering up the spread based on the fact they (the WHO) would somehow profit, financially and politically from the pandemic.

Wikileaks recently posted about the WHO on their social media accounts, and they did so in the form of confidential documents they released nearly a decade ago highlighting the influence that big pharmaceutical companies have over the WHO. As Wikileaks states,

The compilation of documents shows the influence of “Big Pharma” on the policy making decisions of the WHO, the UN body safeguarding public health. These confidential documents were obtained by the drug industry before their public release to WHO member states. The document also illustrates that the WHO expert group was highly responsive to industry lobbying — a result that public health groups had feared since early 2009, when the expert group met with the industry, but refused to meet with public health groups known to be industry critics. The likely audience for these documents include countries, public health policy makers, civil society, industry, academia, media, patients and the general public. (source)

If you a want to read the documents, you can access them here.

The relationship between the WHO and pharmaceutical companies isn’t really highlighted in the mainstream at all, and therefore it’s off the radar and not on the minds of the masses. We see the same type of thing when it comes to ‘big pharma’ and its relationship between our federal health regulatory agencies. Despite the fact that these relationships and examples of corruption aren’t highlighted by mainstream media, they are and have been highlighted for many years.



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“The medical profession is being bought by the pharmaceutical industry, not only in terms of the practice of medicine, but also in terms of teaching and research. The academic institutions of this country are allowing themselves to be the paid agents of the pharmaceutical industry. I think it’s disgraceful.” – Arnold Seymour Relman (1923-2014), Harvard professor of medicine and former Editor-in-Chief of The New England Medical Journal (source)

When it comes to the United States in general, Robert F Kennedy Jr, a man who has been doing a lot of work in this area for his entire life, explains:

“The pharmaceutical companies have been able to purchase congress. They’re the largest lobbying entity in Washington D.C.. They have more lobbyists in Washington D.C. than there are congressman and senators combined. They give twice to congress what the next largest lobbying entity is, which is oil and gas… Imagine the power they exercise over both republicans and democrats. They’ve captured them (our regulatory agencies) and turned them into sock puppets. They’ve compromised the press… and they destroy the publications that publish real science” (Source)

What’s also interesting is that a few days ago, Vimeo deleted “trustWHO”, a film directed by Lilian Franck. Vimeo stated that they do not support “Videos that depict or encourage self-harm, falsely claim that mass tragedies are hoaxes, or perpetuate false or misleading claims about vaccine safety.”

According to the filmmakers, the claim from Vimeo is “Both misleading and false. “trustWHO” has been thoroughly researched for 7 years; it has been fact-checked and approved by lawyers, experts in the medical field and even by key executives of the WHO itself. The documentary simply investigated how efficiency and transparency of the WHO are undermined by both corporate influences and a lack of public funding. It is a journalistic investigation based on facts and far from what Vimeo makes it out to be. This is our full statement on the matter, presented by Robert Cibis (Filmmaker, Co-author and producer of “trust WHO”).
From the web;
"This highlights what’s going on in our world today, the powerful presence of a digital Orwellian “fact checker” that’s going around the internet and social media deleting any evidence that threatens corporate, political, financial or elitist interests, or information that simply highlights the corruption within agencies that have been tasked to safeguard us. It’s not about the truth, there is no fact checking, the elimination of content from various platforms, like Vimeo, Youtube, Facebook and more is being done so in an immoral and unethical manner."

What is your affiliation with big pharma,china,gates and W.H.O.? (Where you put your trust)
 
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I said this from the beginning.
A tiny bit of research goes a long way.
BUT WHAT IS OUR STARTING PLACE???
IT IS THAT GOV IS NOT TO BE TRUSTED.

Those in here tirelessly defending the corrupt W H O are out of touch.

What is America's consensus?
You get corona...YOU DIE.

Why do people not care for the truth????
it is so frustrating to see people being treated like this, when the truth is so easy to find. All I can do is keep posting the truth on social media and hope at least one of my many followers pay attention and start reading.
 

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for those of you confused, this may help explain everything.
The reason there are massive contradictions is mostly because there is a massive cover up.
unless, of course, there's no massive cover-up, in which case there should be one, that way there would be no massive contradictions about a cover-up.....I think that's kinda what she's saying too...
there needs to be more cover-up...
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I'm browsing channels late night, can't sleep. I come across One America News Network, which is my hubby's favorite because they don't cloud reporting with partisan bias. Me, I don't watch the news or read the newspapers.

In this one late night segment tonight it is all Corona virus related. All reporting. Maybe I was suppose to see this.
In Spain, their death toll to the virus has topped China. In Spain police are arresting anyone found outside because they're disobeying the lawful order to stay home. But the cops aren't doing that. What makes them immune to the virus?

A New Jersey man is facing years in prison for allegedly coughing in a woman's face and telling her he has the virus. He's being prosecuted under a terrorism law here in the U.S..
A New Jersey man has been charged with making terroristic threats after allegedly coughing in the direction of a local supermarket employee and claiming he suffered from the coronavirus
The story below. Full report is here.
. The state's attorney general, Gurbir Grewal, announced the charges against George Falcone on Tuesday.

Here's how his office explains what happened at a Wegmans supermarket on Sunday evening:


"The employee was concerned that Falcone was standing too close to her and an open display of prepared foods, so she requested that he step back as she covered the food. Instead, Falcone allegedly stepped forward to within 3 feet of her, leaned toward her, and purposely coughed. He allegedly laughed and said he was infected with the coronavirus. Falcone subsequently told two other employees they are lucky to have jobs."​

In addition to the third-degree terrorist threats charge, the attorney general's office has also accused Falcone, 50, of harassment and obstructing law or other governmental functions. All told, Grewal says the man now faces the possibility of more than six years in state prison and thousands of dollars in fines.... [more]

New York allegedly has the highest number of cases currently of CV patients. The Maryland governor today said anyone who travels in the tri-state area, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, will be required to self-quarantine for 14 days! (The Hill article) How are they going to enforce that exactly?
Florida is doing the same thing with regards to anyone who traveled to NYC in the last three weeks. Again, how are they going to ascertain this in order to insure compliance?

In China not that long ago news broadcasts showed China police members stopping cars and checking people for the virus by taking their temperature.

Sweden however is a whole different thing. Their businesses are open and opening earlier than usual to accommodate shoppers. Their PM said that they have to trust their people to do what is right during this crisis.

Our U.S military is on shutdown, all personnel ordered to stay where they are, for the next three weeks.
Military bases close to visitors, cancel events, place service members under quarantine to stop virus

Florida and Texas have been declared disaster areas by President Trump, due to Corona.
Sweden is open for business. Their businesses are opening early to accommodate shoppers. The PM there saying they have to trust their people know how to be responsible during this Corona virus pandemic. Meanwhile, the Democrats here on the hill are condemning Trump for not being more strict on business shut downs because the economy isn't worth people risking their lives to the virus.
Syria has issued a curfew order due to Corona. There's talk in America of travel ban's between states.

OK, here's the thought. Years ago there was this news story that hit the air once, and wasn't repeated after the first airing. Which is odd. The report concerned prisons being built but not populated by prisoners after construction was finished. Railroad tracks being laid behind them too. And a ghost staff manning the facilities.
As I recall these were going up in the central U.S. mainly. Many in the area thought they were to take the pressure off what was even then a huge issue of prison overcrowding in all states. Yet, those new prisons remained empty of prisoners. Of course conspiracy theorists then, this was during Bush43, were saying it was going to be a FEMA control that was going to come into power and dissidents were to be housed in those prisons. Slowly that rumor faded.

What if those prisons remain empty still? Only now with this Corona virus panic will soon be filled with people who refuse to comply with the following. Self quarantine. And also, refusing to not travel outside home state lines. Also, remember that guy who's facing terrorism charges for coughing and telling the grocery employee he had Corona?

What if those who will also populate those prisons are people who appear sick while out in public? The ultimate self-quarantine afforded by being taken into government custody for a term. When this virus is said to be able to lay dormant for 14 days before any symptoms appear, where is the red flag ? Wherever a government order plants it.
This virus was a legitimate problem. Yes the lack of facts, information and flawed prediction models gave off more fear than needed. It was quite evident just from examining China and Europe that the extremely contagious virus was stressing the healthcare systems. We knew we had to plan for that and slow the curve. We had to address the potential problem. The majority of us wanted to ease on precaution.

But unfortunately some people in some states voted for people who in the first opportunity would love to be a totalitarian. In a sense they getting what they voted for.

In a state like mine we had guidelines but nothing extreme. My state is now starting to slowly open back up. Churches are starting to open.

We slowed the curve but now we are seeing meat shortages, businesses failing, the affects of job loss, which also affects people's healthcare, economic turmoil, abuse at home on the rise, mental health issues on the rise and these are the beginning signs that we have a unfortunate choice.

This all carries it's own disturbing consequences that can bring death too.

Are we going to continue lockdown measures and it takes the population forever to grow antibodies? The death will be slow related to the virus but the economy will be destroyed for decades.

How long can we wait for a vaccine? Our President is saying it will possibly be ready by the end of the year. But what if it fails or takes longer?

What if we open back up in the next few weeks and we see a death rise that over loads the system?

We know the majority of cases do not end in death or see the hospital.

Many people are asymptomatic or minor symptoms. Mostly those under 60.

If we open with guidelines only on the most vulnerable then we possibly can save lives and the economy.

As for losing freedoms. I'm happy that General A Barr is stepping in. But ultimately if people dont want to lose liberties then they got stop voting for atheistic socialist communists who hate America or atleast the traditional America that protected liberty for centuries.
 

Roughsoul1991

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This virus was a legitimate problem. Yes the lack of facts, information and flawed prediction models gave off more fear than needed. It was quite evident just from examining China and Europe that the extremely contagious virus was stressing the healthcare systems. We knew we had to plan for that and slow the curve. We had to address the potential problem. The majority of us wanted to ease on precaution.

But unfortunately some people in some states voted for people who in the first opportunity would love to be a totalitarian. In a sense they getting what they voted for.

In a state like mine we had guidelines but nothing extreme. My state is now starting to slowly open back up. Churches are starting to open.

We slowed the curve but now we are seeing meat shortages, businesses failing, the affects of job loss, which also affects people's healthcare, economic turmoil, abuse at home on the rise, mental health issues on the rise and these are the beginning signs that we have a unfortunate choice.

This all carries it's own disturbing consequences that can bring death too.

Are we going to continue lockdown measures and it takes the population forever to grow antibodies? The death will be slow related to the virus but the economy will be destroyed for decades.

How long can we wait for a vaccine? Our President is saying it will possibly be ready by the end of the year. But what if it fails or takes longer?

What if we open back up in the next few weeks and we see a death rise that over loads the system?

We know the majority of cases do not end in death or see the hospital.

Many people are asymptomatic or minor symptoms. Mostly those under 60.

If we open with guidelines only on the most vulnerable then we possibly can save lives and the economy.

As for losing freedoms. I'm happy that General A Barr is stepping in. But ultimately if people dont want to lose liberties then they got stop voting for atheistic socialist communists who hate America or atleast the traditional America that protected liberty for centuries.
Also many was thinking this was or is a biological weapon. No one knew how deadly or if more outbreaks with other biological weapons would be released. This is still a serious threat. The next one could be extremely worse.