Unpardonable?

So what I heard is denying that you are saved is the unpardonable sin? I'm guilty of that. They also say that attributing Jesus to evil is the unpardonable sin. In my moments of confusion and being tricked by the evil of atheists claiming God is evil. I have unfortunately been guilty of that too :/ I'm a bit confused to what it is...

Well you can read the passage for yourself it's in Matthew 12 ( and possibly other gospels that I didn't look up), but that whole statement about the sin that can't be forgiven is rather interesting. Here's a summary: Jesus casts out a demon. Pharisees say Jesus can cast out demons because he's empowered by Satan. Jesus response shows how ridiculous that is and implies that it's because he's stronger than Satan he can do this. Then he says if someone isn't with him they're against him and then he says every sin and blasphemy can and will be forgiven, except for blashphemy against the Holy Spirit.... that will never be forgiven. And then just in case we missed the point he again says that speaking against Jesus himself (the Son of Man) can be forgiven but not speaking against the Holy Spirit.

And as far as I know, we don't have an example of someone committing the unforgiveable sin in scripture and the closest guess we can come to in context would be something like attributing pretty clear work of the Holy Spirit to demons. So best advice is be very careful how you talk about the Holy Spirit and if the Holy Spirit is really living in us then he can let us know if anyone else has crossed the line into what cannot be forgiven. Interesting side note to this is that it strikes me there's a lot of disrespect flung towards God and Jesus, but seems like most people outside the church don't know about the holy spirit or talk about it.

Soo do you think I did it? 😣 I feel I'm not growing as a Christian and if the Holy spirit is not in me anymore that could be why.

I'm scared in a moment of weakness and confusion I may have or will do it..😔

That's okay. I think quite a few Christians are. When it comes to the unpardonable sin, people have different opinions/views about it. No one can seem to agree on how one commits this sin.


But I was watching this pastor on YouTube and he brought up what I think is a very valid point. And that is:


Jesus did indeed say that there was an unpardonable sin. But he also said that whoever comes to him he will NOT cast out. That's John 6:37.


So even if you've committed it, run to Christ. Ask for forgiveness. Ask for mercy. Ask for a miracle.


That's my advice anyway. And not only to the OP, but to anyone else reading this who thinks they may have crossed the line somehow.


Turn to Christ.

Ok well I'm good there 😖 No matter how I run he always drags me back for which I'm grateful

With so many rules and legalism one thing rarely taught among Christians is intent. Sin is less about action and more about intent.
Sometimes people say things out of fear, anger or confusion but it'd not what they really feel or believe. God is more concerned with what you believe and work towards and less about the more careless words or thoughts put forth in a moment of fear, confusion or weakness.
So it's easy to see why you're confused. People tend towards a legalistic mindset that actions, alone are all that matter, despite the bible not teaching that.

And also Koje, if you are concerned that you may have committed said sin, then you havnt.
You see, if you had, you would be beyond caring.

The Unparodable Sin..

Read the following,, read it all,, and it explains it clearly enough..

Mark 3: KJV
22 "¶ And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. {23} And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? {24} And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. {25} And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. {26} And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. {27} No man can enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house. {28} Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: {29} But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: {30} Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."

The scribes who came down from Jerusalem declared that Jesus was indwelled by Beelzebub and was casting out demons ( devils ) by the power of Beelzebub.. When Jesus was casting out demons by the power of the Holy Spirit.. So the scribes where blaspheming the Holy Spirit by declaring the Holy Spirit to be Beelzebub the prince of demons.. This is the unforgivable sin which hath NEVER forgiveness..

There has been a lot of preachers down through the ages and more then a few denominations who have allowed their imaginations to run riot in declaring this action or deed or that action or deed to be the unforgivable sin.. So much so that some of them have a list of unforgivable sins.. But the actual scriptures define one specific sin and clearly show what it is.. Accusing the Holy Spirit of being a demon is the unforgivable sin.. Nothing more nothing less.. All other sins can be forgiven through the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ..

I'm assuming that doesnt include thoughts in a confused or troubled moment. Atheists had make me ponder certain questions about Gods divinity but I never said or fully conformed to it.

Hello @Kojikun, if you care that you may have committed the unpardonable sin, then you haven't done so. Only those with a black heart of stone could or would commit that particular sin, a sin which is unforgivable from the very moment it's committed. That rules out all other sins and blasphemies, sin all other sins, like denying the Lord, can still be forgiven on this side of the grave after they've been committed.

Here's a very short video and article that you may find helpful (the text of the video is the same as the text you see below, just FYI).

Question: "What is the unpardonable sin / unforgivable sin?"

Answer: The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter” (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (verse 29).


According to Jesus, the unpardonable or unforgivable sin is unique. It is the one iniquity that will never be forgiven (“never” is the meaning of “either in this age or in the age to come” in Matthew 12:32). The unforgivable sin is blasphemy (“defiant irreverence”) of the Holy Spirit in the context of the Spirit’s work in the world through Christ. In other words, the particular case of blasphemy seen in Matthew 12 and Mark 3 is unique. The guilty party, a group of Pharisees, had witnessed irrefutable evidence that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, yet they claimed that He was possessed by the prince of demons, Beelzebul (Matthew 12:24; Mark 3:30).

The Jewish leaders of Jesus’ day committed the unpardonable sin by accusing Jesus Christ (in person, on earth) of being demon-possessed. They had no excuse for such an action. They were not speaking out of ignorance or misunderstanding. The Pharisees knew that Jesus was the Messiah sent by God to save Israel. They knew the prophecies were being fulfilled. They saw Jesus’ wonderful works, and they heard His clear presentation of truth. Yet they deliberately chose to deny the truth and slander the Holy Spirit. Standing before the Light of the World, bathed in His glory, they defiantly closed their eyes and became willfully blind. Jesus pronounced that sin to be unforgivable.

The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, specific as it was to the Pharisees’ situation, cannot be duplicated today. Jesus Christ is not on earth, and no one can personally see Jesus perform a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit. The only unpardonable sin today is that of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in his rejection of Christ. The Holy Spirit is at work in the world, convicting the unsaved of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8). If a person resists that conviction and remains unrepentant, then he is choosing hell over heaven. “Without faith it is impossible to please God” (Hebrews 11:6), and the object of faith is Jesus (Acts 16:31). There is no forgiveness for someone who dies without faith in Christ.

God has provided for our salvation in His Son (John 3:16). Forgiveness is found exclusively in Jesus (John 14:6). To reject the only Savior is to be left with no means of salvation; to reject the only pardon is, obviously, unpardonable.

Many people fear they have committed some sin that God cannot or will not forgive, and they feel there is no hope for them, no matter what they do. Satan would like nothing more than to keep people laboring under that misconception. God gives encouragement to the sinner who is convicted of his sin: “Come near to God and he will come near to you” (James 4:8). “Where sin increased, grace increased all the more” (Romans 5:20). And the testimony of Paul is proof positive that God can and will save anyone who comes to Him in faith (1 Timothy 1:12–17). If you are suffering under a load of guilt today, rest assured that you have not committed the unpardonable sin. God is waiting with open arms. Jesus’ promise is that “he is able to save completely those who come to God through him” (Hebrews 7:25). Our Lord will never fail. “Surely God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid. The LORD, the LORD himself, is my strength and my defense; he has become my salvation” (Isaiah 12:2). ~https://www.gotquestions.org/unpardonable-sin.html

~Deut

That is a very common misperception. He actually said those who are not against you are with you..

"Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you."
(Luke 9:50 NIV)

Matt 12:30 - “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

So looks like he said both at different times.

That is very strange because the two scriptures totally contradict each other.

Totally agree with this... move forward and be obedient to what God wants you to do. He knows your heart and trust He loves you so much.

I think it's more like two sides of the same coin. There's only the for or against side and if you aren't on one; you're on the other. And I've no doubt that quite a few people throughout history (and quite likely in the modern day as well) were mistaken about which side they were truly on.

I read one of those commentaries about those two scriptures because I had to find out for myself what the deal was. I think the jist of it is that the one scripture refers to when someone is firmly against Jesus's teachings. IN that case, they are against us if they are not for us (because they fully chose to reject Jesus). And the other scripture is for when someone doesn't take a stand either for or against (If they are not against us, they are with us).

The unpardonable sin is not denying Jesus or that you are saved, the disciple Peter did that. Denying Jesus is denying the only way to salvation. Fortunately for Peter, Jesus helped him make up for that mistake. But its understandable for Peter to deny Jesus, he wasnt ready at that time to die for Jesus, but again he made up for it because he died for him in the end. All the disciples did.