African American that they say committed suicide

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A GoFundMe account created to help the family with funeral costs had raised nearly $100,000 by Friday afternoon.


Hmm............. just saying
 

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There was an African American man Robert Fuller from Palmdale, California, that was found hanging in a tree outside his house, and police say it was a suicide.

But they are not buying it and now crying justice for Robert Fuller.
Meanwhile, 1000 black babies are murdered from abortion each day. Democrats push to Genocide by proxy
 
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There was an African American man Robert Fuller from Palmdale, California, that was found hanging in a tree outside his house, and police say it was a suicide.

But they are not buying it and now crying justice for Robert Fuller.


https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/robert-fuller-palmdale-death-rally/2379558/

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The protesters seem to believe that Robert took his life as a result of the despair he felt, living in such a racist country where black lives don't matter.
How did America get to the point where it's citizens are so disillusioned with it, that they take their own life.

The white people are now on their knees begging for forgiveness for being white. So it looks like white people are evil, and they are the cause of everything bad that happens.

How can us white people change our color, it's like asking a leopard to change it's spots. Michael Jackson had some skin condition which caused his skin to turn white, so would he have to apologize as well if he was alive. So what do we need to do to appease the anger of the black people, I mean beside defunding the police departments.

Does anyone have a road map to peace, or will this hatred continue for another 400 years.
 
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The protesters seem to believe that Robert took his life as a result of the despair he felt, living in such a racist country where black lives don't matter.
How did America get to the point where it's citizens are so disillusioned with it, that they take their own life.

The white people are now on their knees begging for forgiveness for being white. So it looks like white people are evil, and they are the cause of everything bad that happens.

How can us white people change our color, it's like asking a leopard to change it's spots. Michael Jackson had some skin condition which caused his skin to turn white, so would he have to apologize as well if he was alive. So what do we need to do to appease the anger of the black people, I mean beside defunding the police departments.

Does anyone have a road map to peace, or will this hatred continue for another 400 years.
Why do we need to appease their anger? Their problems are self-inflicted.
 
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The protesters seem to believe that Robert took his life as a result of the despair he felt, living in such a racist country where black lives don't matter.
How did America get to the point where it's citizens are so disillusioned with it, that they take their own life.

The white people are now on their knees begging for forgiveness for being white. So it looks like white people are evil, and they are the cause of everything bad that happens.

How can us white people change our color, it's like asking a leopard to change it's spots. Michael Jackson had some skin condition which caused his skin to turn white, so would he have to apologize as well if he was alive. So what do we need to do to appease the anger of the black people, I mean beside defunding the police departments.

Does anyone have a road map to peace, or will this hatred continue for another 400 years.

Don't drink the kool aid. Michael Jackson did not have a skin condition. He had a physician do the job for him. Michael Jackson changed everything he could about his looks but no white person caused him to do so. You will not ever be able to appease the anger of people who cannot face the problems in their own lives . Black on black murder is the subject ignored and black abortions are the highest in the country; those are actual problems.

There will be no more peace in the hearts of those who reject God, but Christians can have the peace that passes ALL understanding.
 

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You all are a bunch of hateful people. Not one kind word from the lot of you. Stop deflecting. If I were a new Christian none of you could tell me a thing about Jesus. I do not see him represented in any of your comments. I could through out some statistics too about non black people but for what? Some of you think your are so superior and a bunch of no it alls. Not one of you spent a day in a black person shoes yet you have all of the answers and know what it is be black. You all are rude and obnoxious and full of yourselves. 6 black men in a matter of a week or 2 were found hung from trees in different states and you all believe that it is suicide? SMH

Free to do what we want? Yeah okay, but we can't go anywhere to a park or beach or a pool without someone who cannot mind their business asking us what are we doing there and calling the police. We can't walk around stores without being followed. While they are watching us a non black is robbing them blind. We can't even go into the building that we live in without people asking what unit do you live in and thinking we are tresspassing. We can't do are job and deliver things to someones home without being questioned and the police called even while in uniform. How about mind your own business and leave people alone who aren't bothering you.

One in paticular doesn't even live in america but their disdain for black americans is ridiculous. It's probably just blacks in general because they reach deep down to pull out the most hateful things.

My mother is almost 80 and she stopped to get gas. I guess she was taking to long at the pump and instead of asking if he could help her some white man told an almost 80 woman to go back to africa. Really? Why, over gas? My mother was born here as well as her mother and her grandmother and so on.

Nobody is asking for your apology. Noone asked you to change your skin color. Nobody cries "All lives matter!" when someone says Blue Lives Matter. So the problem you have is with the black. I don't care what you bring up about black people it doesn't mean that they deserve to die. UGH and believe it or not you put your pants on one leg at a time just like we do.
 

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Oh and always talking about what someone deserves or bringing up someones past. You better be thankful that God doesn't deal with you based on your past and for some of you even your present. Alot of US wouldn't be sitting here today if He did.
 
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Don't drink the kool aid. Michael Jackson did not have a skin condition. He had a physician do the job for him. Michael Jackson changed everything he could about his looks but no white person caused him to do so. You will not ever be able to appease the anger of people who cannot face the problems in their own lives . Black on black murder is the subject ignored and black abortions are the highest in the country; those are actual problems.

There will be no more peace in the hearts of those who reject God, but Christians can have the peace that passes ALL understanding.
I just did some research on the statistics you mentioned and they were shocking, especially the 1000 black babies who are killed everyday in their mother womb.
The other one, was the number of black children who grow up without a father in their lives. I think it was close to 70% so those poor kids never had a father in their lives to teach them values, they have to learn everything the hard way so I do pity them a lot.

I don't really know if there is any racism by white Americans towards African Americans, but I do know there are lots of very rich and successful blacks in the US. So I can't see how so many of them became successful, if they were discriminated against to the extent they would have us believe. I mean you recently had a black president, so the opportunities seem to be there for everyone who's willing to work towards achieving their goals.

There's a lot of things which don't add up, in this current crisis. We see Churches and work places forced to close down, then we see people marching with the police in tight formation. It's a real head scratcher
 
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Why do we need to appease their anger? Their problems are self-inflicted.
I take your point, every individual is responsible for their actions regardless of their skin color. We have a guilty complex here in Australia, the media bombards us with accusations of racism everyday. So you start feeling guilty for the actions of a few rotten ancestors from 300 years ago.

Our government throws $$$$Billions upon billions at or Aboriginals, they represent 3% of our population of 26 million. So they're a very small number but they make up 40% of our prison population. We treat them like Royalty but they still hate us, for what some of our ancestors supposedly did to their ancestors centuries ago.
 
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What about HoneyDew's mother who was told to go back to Africa? What do you make of that?
Sorry I'm not familiar with HoneyDew's mother's case. I was trying to make the point that the whole world is literally dying to migrate to the US. People are willing to risk death for the opportunity to sneak into the US, so it can't be as bad as some are making it out to be.

I think it would help everyone if they had a good look at how the vast majority of the world lives. The Chinese murdered 42,000 000 (that's 42 million) of their own citizens in one foul swoop, the Muslim countries are soaked in brotherly blood, then we have the African countries with their regular blood baths. You could literally go around the world and see that the vast majority are in perpetual war and turmoil.

They say, you don't know what you've got till you lose it. I hope Americans can get over their bickering and treat each other with common dignity.
 
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Sorry I'm not familiar with HoneyDew's mother's case
You said you weren't aware of any racism against blacks, I was just trying to enlighten you. You can also ask the poster more about their experience. It's that simple. You don't have to remain ignorant. But its up to you.
 

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What about HoneyDew's mother who was told to go back to Africa? What do you make of that?
People get it. It's that they don't care because it's not happening to them. I've had a gun pulled out and sat on the counter when I walked into a convenience store in MY nice neighborhood. When I purchased my home someone wrote " No N word allowed on this street". I have a lengthy list of things that has happened to me and others that I know. I'm not going by hearsay or the media it's what I have witnessed first hand.

If one can read I don't have to tell you what some of these people feel about blacks and it's just a message board. Now move this same disdain for us here in this forum out into the world. You have doctors, lawyers, judges, police officers, teachers, busness owners etc. who feel the the same and folks say that black people have nothing to be concerned about. A person does not have to be familiar with my mothers case to know that what happened to her was wrong. Period.
 

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You said you weren't aware of any racism against blacks, I was just trying to enlighten you. You can also ask the poster more about their experience. It's that simple. You don't have to remain ignorant. But its up to you.
Exactly, willful ignorance. Anything that I have said that they can't weaponized and use against me they skip over. All they are stuck on is how awful blacks are. Some need to search themselves. Funny how the news lies about them but the same news is soooooo truthful when it comes to black people when the story fits their script. LOL Someone was kind enough to make a suggestion to me in pm's. I think I'll use it.
 
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I take your point, every individual is responsible for their actions regardless of their skin color. We have a guilty complex here in Australia, the media bombards us with accusations of racism everyday. So you start feeling guilty for the actions of a few rotten ancestors from 300 years ago.

Our government throws $$$$Billions upon billions at or Aboriginals, they represent 3% of our population of 26 million. So they're a very small number but they make up 40% of our prison population. We treat them like Royalty but they still hate us, for what some of our ancestors supposedly did to their ancestors centuries ago.
What a bunch of crap! You know what your non racist people in Australia told my dad as late as the sixties? Come work in Australia, we need white men coming here to settle...of course they didn’t know he was a no good Cajun...
 
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Exactly, willful ignorance. Anything that I have said that they can't weaponized and use against me they skip over. All they are stuck on is how awful blacks are. Some need to search themselves. Funny how the news lies about them but the same news is soooooo truthful when it comes to black people when the story fits their script. LOL Someone was kind enough to make a suggestion to me in pm's. I think I'll use it.
I agree with you. I’m ashamed when reading some of the posts here.
 
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What about HoneyDew's mother who was told to go back to Africa? What do you make of that?

Hello Kim


Honeydew
:My mother is almost 80 and she stopped to get gas. I guess she was taking to long at the pump and instead of asking if he could help her some white man told an almost 80 woman to go back to africa. Really? Why, over gas? My mother was born here as well as her mother and her grandmother and so on.

In the 1960s this was a common thing for whites to say to blacks. No it doesn't make it right - that's just what happened.
I don't hear it these days though.

In 1984 I moved my family from a moderate size city to a more country, rural place on Virginia's coast. Newport News to Gloucester.
Gloucester was first settled by French immigrants a lot of generations ago. They were very clannish - shunning people that were not born into their clans. Lots of first cousin marriages. They resented to influx of folks from the city and called us "COME HERE'S" as in "he not born here, he a comehere'. We were not welcome to put in mildly and treated like second class citizens. So yes I can understand to a point what prejudice feels like. The original french were white and I am white. The native born residents could be spotted by their accent. An example is how dog is pronounced. To them it is 'daug' not dog. So 'comeheres' were easy to spot also. Left there is 1987 for florida. The Klan was also very active there as well.


Folks we gotta get past all this hate...........................................................................
 
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To get this thread back on the tracks. Looks like we don't have a lot of facts on the hanging yet.
How about everyone put emotions and assumptions on hold and let the investigation bring out
the facts. It took a while for facts and details to come out with the Arbery case but they have and
more will probably come out in the future.
 
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They were very clannish - shunning people that were not born into their clans
I heard of a similar situation in Africa. When black people from other parts of the world visit Africa, some of the Africans there look down on them saying they are children of slaves. Quite silly.

.of course they didn’t know he was a good Cajun...
I removed the "no" from your quote above.:)

I googled Cajun people and I kept seeing Creole come up. Creole is mixed race of French and black. But Cajun seems to be another word for French people.

The original french were white and I am white
Well is there a difference between whites and Cajun in terms of appearance? I'm not very familiar with Cajuns, except hearing it mentioned as food.
To get this thread back on the tracks. Looks like we don't have a lot of facts on the hanging yet.
How about everyone put emotions and assumptions on hold and let the investigation bring out the facts. It took a while for facts and details to come out with the Arbery case but they have and
more will probably come out in the future.
This thread was put here for no other reason other than controversy. The person who started the thread does not care what circumstances led to this death, or that someone died. But yes, let there be a thorough investigation.

Someone was kind enough to make a suggestion to me in pm's. I think I'll use it.
I looked at your profile, but it was restricted. Perhaps I would have PMed you. But really, some things said have to be ignored. Even I say that to myself all the time.