Not By Works

Well it either is...... or it isn't my personal opinion is people get offended if you differ from what they want to teach and then the whole thing blows up into one big whoeha......

I thought so! But I do see you also make an exception to that rule by how you believe Hebrews 10:26-29. If You accept the way that individual interpreted those scriptures, you believe if you continue deliberately in sin you will lose your Salvation.

Did you thoroughly read through post #19 from my link?

Mailman,

From your own post description you added yourself:

Hebrews 10:26 (AMPC) - For if we go on deliberately and willingly sinning after once acquiring the knowledge of the Truth, there is no longer any sacrifice left to atone for [our] sins [no further offering to which to look forward]. Such people are rejecting Christ deliberately.

You said, even those who accepted Christ, but chose to remain in their deliberate sin, HAVE NO SACRIFICE!

This means they accepted Christ, are saved, but because they deliberately remain in their sin, they lose the value of what Christ did for atonement.

So then, in this ONE EXCEPTION, the OSAS does not apply!

And that is all I have been trying to bring to light.

That’s because I think about my arguments as well as yours. You guys just repeat what someone else said who also never thought about it. You cannot catch me in your loaded questions and I consider many angles of all questions. So thinking about the subject is foreign to many of you. It’s not foreign to me and I have questioned my own thoughts for decades and so eliminated a lot of falsehood.

No they did not trust in works in your name Lord we did this and that... seems like they were pretty good Christians to me

Once you have experienced being taught The Word by The Holy Spirit, you just NEVER want to know anything unless The Holy Spirit teaches you.

He is The Spirit of Truth, in Him is no lie.


But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
1 John 2:27 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=1 John 2:27&version=KJV

Only those who believe to the saving of the soul have accepted Christ and are saved and not those who instead draw back to perdition (Hebrews 10:39) by willfully sinning/deliberately rejecting Christ after acquiring the knowledge of the truth.

Ok.i
Cool, yet nothing in my post was bringing an argument to the forefront concerning the "L."

The issue at the forefront now is the individual in this thread falsely accusing others and using slander, lying, childish name calling, ridicule and mockery in doing so namely @eternally-gratefull. Even one of our newest members @Fastfredy0 has been introduced to it. The fact is he's projecting. I realize your post is an attempt for unity, but there will be no unity as long as he continues his behavior and remains defiant and unrepentant even when shown proof of his actions. This isn't something new either, EG has been doing this for years. However I do respect your attempt to bring healing, but that won't come as long as the unrepentant behavior continues.

Now back to your post. The glass isn't dark on understanding and seeing limited atonement in NT scripture. It is the same concerning predestination. The only thing making it difficult to see for some is their tradition. It is plainly spoken of:

https://www.ligonier.org/learn/series/what_is_reformed_theology/limited-atonement/

This is getting very tiresome ... did you guys coordinate this ongoing character assassination?

His Son is the groom so this is a moot point, we are the bride....

Short answer: NO, as least not on my part.

Longer answer:
I tried giving EG the benefit of the doubt. @preacher4truth and @Sackcloth-N-Ashes said EG kept calling them liars. Then low and behold EG calls me a liar. It let is go. Then EG calls me a liar a second time. I'm not Columbo, but seems to be a pattern here.

You have your CAUSE and EFFECT mixed up IMO.

The CAUSE is EG calling people liars
The EFFECT is calling EG out on it
The common denominator is EG calling liars people who disagree with EG
Further circumstantial proof: We disagree with you as much as EG. We treat you civilly and I am thankful you are civil.

So, if I have the CAUSE and EFFECT correct, then EFFECT (us called him out un-Christian like behaviour) would stop when the CAUSE (EG calling us liars) stops. (Aside: The is an example of the Reformed concept of 'first' and 'second causes'. The 'first cause' is God permitting EG to call us liars. The 'second cause' is for EG to call us liars. Another 'second cause' is for us to respond to EG. I don't know why God has ordained the 'first cause' but He ordains all things. .... Now from EG's point of view I assume (now don't call me a liar EG, I said I ASSUME to be correct if I am wrong but not be calling me a liar ... on second thought, let's not use EG. Let's call him Jack. Jack see this episode as EG being the 'first cause' and his free will being the director of the cause. Jack doesn't understand that the source of any first cause must be eternal as Nothing comes from Nothing, but that is a story for another day)

Aside: We have a 5 year plan to bring you over to the dark (Reformed) side

Jesus flat out told the “I NEVER knew you”

Not that He knew them at one time and they did or didn’t do something for Him to not know them now. Can you not see that?

EH there are times when people on this site are not acting very Christian-like, but there should not be a witch-hunt on one person. We are all guilty at times

Just because I disagree on certain things doesn't make me like people less. I have had words with EG and DC but both parties keep it civil, and if we don't we hug it out later . When all is said and done we are one body, one bride, one church.

God bless

Get over it for crying out loud.

No they did not trust in works in your name Lord we did this and that... seems like they were pretty good Christians to me

EH there are times when people on this site are not acting very Christian-like, but there should not be a witch-hunt on one person. We are all guilty at times