The Elect, Sealed, & Marked

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Isaiah 42 KJV

Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

JPS Tanakh

הֵ֤ן עַבְדִּי֙ אֶתְמָךְ־בּ֔וֹ בְּחִירִ֖י רָצְתָ֣ה נַפְשִׁ֑י נָתַ֤תִּי רוּחִי֙ עָלָ֔יו מִשְׁפָּ֖ט לַגּוֹיִ֥ם יוֹצִֽיא׃

This is My servant, whom I uphold, My chosen one, in whom I delight. I have put My spirit upon him, He shall teach the true way to the nations.
בָּחִיר – bä·khēr’ – refers to Mashiach (Messiah)

  • chosen one
  • elect

Yeshua Mark 13:24-27

But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Matthew 22:14

“For many are called, but few are chosen.”
ἐκλεκτός – ek-lek-to’s – refers to HaMashiach sheep (Matthew 24:31 & 22:14)

  • chosen
  • elect
  • chosen by God,
  • to obtain salvation through Christ
  • Christians are called “chosen or elect” of God
  • the Messiah is called “elect”, as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable

Revelation 7:9-14

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, (the sheep) stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshiped God,

Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


Revelation 7: 3-4

Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
σφραγίζω – sfrä-gē’-zō – refers to “seal”

  • seal
  • set a seal

144,000 will be sealed by the heavenly host, 12,000 from each tribe of Israel.

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.” Rev 14
חָתַם – khä·tham’ – refers to a “Kings mark” or seal

  • seal
  • mark
A “seal” σφραγίζω, is to Israel from each tribe, the servants of YHWH by Elohai heavenly host.

χάραγμα – khä’-räg-mä – refers to “imprinted mark,” not “seal”

  • imprinted mark
  • idolatrous image or sculpture
A “mark” χάραγμα, is of the human world, done with human instruments, or upon a body.

The mashiach beast will “mark” his flock with the number of the beast 666.

“And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.” Rev 14:9-11

Revelation 13:15-18

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

So we have 3 words that should not be confused:

Elect – the sheep of HaMashiach Jesus
Seal – the 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe of Israel.
Mark – those who follow the beast and receive the mark 666
 

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So, I'm guessing you do not believe that the Church of the New Covenant IS who Christ will return to "rapture" and take with Him?
 

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I believe that Jesus will gather those whom God deems remain, but probably not as you believe. The rapture, a made up word, is for confusion in the body of Christ, sewn by the enemy for strife, anger, arguments, contention and allegorizing the word of God.

"Take with Him" does not apply as Jesus will be returning to reign, "caught up in the air" is more proper in the context.
 

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Yeah, ok, that tells me all I need to know about your ideologies..................have a nice day
 

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well you have not debated any thoughts and I do not have ideologies. I merely believe what the Bible teaches and that Jesus is the savior of mankind who died for our sins.

Moreover, I will add that this post in no way paved a "rapture" belief but grants those in Christ an understanding of His word to eliminate confusion in the body of Christ. I see you have alignment to a specific rapture "theory" and I certainly will not argue over your belief.
 

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Nor will I argue over your ideologies........BTW, your OP is full of ideologies.............and as for believing what the Scriptures say, it would more honest of you to say you believe what YOUR interpretation of Scriptures say.....after all, it's JUST your opinion.........
 

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There is no opinion on my post, not "interpretation" but translated words. The words that you read in the Bible all have translation and meaning. Here I laid out some words in Greek and Hebrew for the body of Christ so why are you attacking me?
 
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There is no opinion on my post, not "interpretation" but translated words. The words that you read in the Bible all have translation and meaning. Here I laid out some words in Greek and Hebrew for the body of Christ so why are you attacking me?
Welcome to CC, looks like you're not being given much of a chance in your thread though. ;)
 

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So we have 3 words that should not be confused:

Elect – the sheep of HaMashiach Jesus
Seal – the 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe of Israel.
Mark – those who follow the beast and receive the mark 666
OPINION.............

There is no opinion on my post,



Hmm............... attacking? No, disagreeing...........

So are you of that devout Jewish group that has that weird take on Scripture? Would seem so......
 

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Welcome to CC, looks like you're not being given much of a chance in your thread though. ;)
Given every chance............he/she can post as they wish......it's a Public Forum. Your presence here proves that.....
 

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Yes, I am Jewish and Believe in Christ Jesus. I also notice on another post you accused someone of being a "disruptive spirit," when we can clearly see you have judged yourself. You have a biting tongue that quickly offends. I sense only anger, hate, and accusation from you, which is of the devil.

May Jesus our Lord cleanse you and make you whole and grant you peace.
 

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Bitter tongue? Nope. Following Scripture and discerning the spirits? YUP!

but, hey, thanks for playing
 

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Bitter tongue? Nope. Following Scripture and discerning the spirits? YUP!

but, hey, thanks for playing
Obviously what was posted here condemned whatever theory of rapture is in your mind and why you so viciously attack me for no cause.

The website says christianchat.com and we are commanded by Jesus to love one another. I am feeling no love or welcome from you.
 

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viciously attacked? are you that touchy? seriously? OR are you overstating? hmm..........

now, love? only in the sense that you are a human being.......but, given your ideology, you are not OF the same Church as I, or OF the same body of believers IMO,.,

I simply will not sit by and watch unBiblical teachings posted without being challenged...........NEITHER DID the disciples OR CHRIST..........just saying
 

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YES or NO:

Do you believe in the Holy Trinity?

Do you believe Jesus is God?

Do you understand that the New Covenant replaced the 1st Covenant as it waxed and grew old, AND WAS NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE ETERNAL SALVATION?

start there and let's see of "what body" you are party to
 

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I preach Jesus Christ as crucified and raised from the dead in which ALL can receive salvation. For it is written" whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

All who confess Christ Jesus as Lord are His sheep. Let me hear you say that Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords troubled spirit.

41 I receive not honour from men.

42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
John 5​
 

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I preach Jesus Christ as crucified and raised from the dead in which ALL can receive salvation. For it is written" whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Great, so you understand that the Law of the 1st Covenant IS NOT for the Church established by Jesus Himself, right? Good, so do I............

who knows? maybe your troubled spirit will find peace IF you keep searching for the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit and the full understanding of the Holy Trinity, and of the New Covenant, Grace..........hey, it could happen.
 

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So you prove that you are not of Christ as you cannot worship His name, Jesus, before men.

Say Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords before all here if you truly are one of His - all who serve Him rejoice in doing so.

I give praise to you Lord Jesus for making known to all, and revealing all to your servants. Glory and praise to the Most High God and Jesus your Lamb slain for the world!

Luke 12
8 “Also I say to you, whoever confesses Me before men, him the Son of Man also will confess before the angels of God. 9 But he who denies Me before men will be denied before the angels of God.

10 “And anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven.
 

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When people just hop onto the forum and immediately start acting from a position of teacher and then are surprised and consider it an attack if anyone questions them and what trail do the teachings follow exactly. We are doing our due diligence as Bereans - that should make you happy like it made the apostles happy, not offend you. Registered: Today, at 5 something PM. Seriously? Since we know nothing about your background, question for the OP, if they will honor it and answer us, what group of believers or denomination do you belong?
 

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What on earth are you talking about? I MUST SAY some words you chose to prove something to you? Seriously?

I have no need to prove anything to you..............and, as you seem to continue to not confirm the New Covenant, Grace......and that the Law of Faith (as described by the Apostle Paul in Romans) has replaced the Law of Moses, and IS NOW the Law of the New Covenant, Grace..........I have to wonder about "of what spirit" you are?