Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

That is what you have been taught, There are many scriptures that embrace the fact that God has an elect family of children.

We are not to take to heart what preachers tell us, until we search the scriptures out, and prove them with the other scriptures. All scriptures must harmonize with each other before you can understand the truths that Jesus taught.

You guys can slice, dice, embellish, twist and deny all you want....but make no mistake...Calvin is exactly what you guys are selling and the credo/ideology that you guys are peddling is not scriptural.

Salvation is open to ALL regardless of the fact that only a few will believe!

I guess king Agrippa was an exception.😀

Conflating truths to try and end run the truth to peddle error is not a bright idea!

False....You were good in what you were saying until paragraph 3 and then over embellished paragraph 5........and the drivel in paragraph 3 is Calvinism.....and the bible does not teach that drivel. It is clear that the only pre-determined will of God in our election is that GOD pre-determined to elect ALL that to choose to believe in his son.

The bible does not teach the cultish view that God chose man A for heaven and man B thru Z for hell! That is as contrary as it comes, evil and straight from the pit of hell!

1 Cor 2:14 by inferring that he is a natural man does equate him as a carnal man, but nowhere in that verse does it mention "a babe in Christ".

When a preacher tells you about some scriptures and their meanings, you should search the other scriptures pertaining to that subject to see if they harmonize with each other.

Isaiah 28:9-10, Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breast. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, and there a little.

When we are first quickened to a new spiritual life, we are babes in Christ. We start our life off, just as a baby does, with the milk of the word. We grow gradually in our learning of the word, until we finally reach the maturity that we can digest the meat of the word (the doctrine of Jesus).

Most that are quickened to a spiritual life remain "babes in Christ" due to their slow spiritual growth. Few are chosen, by the revelation of the Holy Spirit, to mature enough to understand the doctrine that Jesus taught. Many are called, but few chosen.

Pardon my stressing a point, but you seem to defend your biblical theory with derogatory remarks in all of your posts to me, instead of using scriptures against scripture to harmonize your theory. Why is that? Are you not secure in thinking scriptures will prove your biblical theory?

Calvin is dead. According to the proverbs we are to buy the truth of the gospel and not sell it short of the glory of God .He will not share his glory with corrupted dying flesh. Its why Jesus said His flesh profits for zero.

Its open to as many or a few of those he gives the power that works in then to both will and do His good pleasure. Some murmur and accuse dead men .

Philippians 2:13-15 King James Version (KJV) For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings: That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

You sure have a way with degrading words, but not much scriptural back up to go with them. Can't you try a little harder in that area?

I have forgotten who it was, but someone told me that you were the most learned person on this forum with the scriptures. How about using some of them to uphold your biblical theory.

Does not prove the Calvinogma you peddle....!

I do daily......but what I have learned is simple...you guys (Calvinites, salvation losers, Cainologists and workers for) just trample it, twist it, skew it, deny it by your religion and then keep peddling the same Calvinite go to slogans and out of context scripture to peddle error.......

God would have ALL MEN to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.....Not just Calvinites.

2.14 carries the same context right into chapter 3 ( the verses and chapter divisions are a modern addition ) Paul is talking about babes / natural/ carnal ' believer 'cannot understand the things of a mature nature . The wisdom Paul speaks amongst the spiritual/ mature / perfect. This is a ridiculous proof text calvinism teaches out of context to support Augustines gnosticism.

Just curious! Do you concentrate on the things that you read and quote? The verse that you have quoted, says 'it is God which worketh in you, both to will, and to do of his good pleasure", and then you say "God cannot do his good pleasure, which is to eternally save all mankind because they will not accept him".

In actuality, It is the regenerated, spiritual, man/woman that God works in to will and do of his good pleasure, and not the natural man.

How did I say God cannot do his good pleasure.? If I did that would be turning things upside down. I think I am in agreement with you. After all we cannot make our own hearts soft. A new one must be created. As in all things he must do the first works.

Job 23:12-14 Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food. But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him. Therefore am I troubled at his presence: when I consider, I am afraid of him. For God maketh my heart soft, and the Almighty troubleth me:

Your sneaking that 'natural man 'in there again . There is nothing negative about ' natural 'in the bible ..Romans 1 says they exchanged the 'natural use '

As learned as some people think that you are, I would assume that you do consult a Greek concordance. Saved, according to the Greek, means= delivered.

1 Tim 2:4, There is a deliverance, that is not eternal, but received as we sojourn here on earth, when a regenerated child of God comes unto the knowledge of the truth.

In Gen 33:28 God changed Jacob's name to be no more called Jacob, but to be called Israel. Thereafter when Israel is mentioned in the scriptures, it has reference to Jacob most of the time.

Rom 9:11, That the purpose of God, according to election might stand. verse 13, As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Jacob/Israel is representative of God's elect.

Rom 10:1-3, Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel/Jacob is, that they might be delivered (saved). For I bear them record that they "have a zeal of God" (indicating that they are regenerated), but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

Rom 9:6, For they are not all Israel (Jacob), which are of Israel (nation).

Rom 11;26-28, And so all Israel/Jacob shall be saved; as it is written, there shall come out of Sion the deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob/Israel. For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes; but as touching the election, they are beloved for the Father's sakes.

World of believers, They cannot hear and believe unless they are already his sheep (regenerated).

King Agrippa was not quickened to believe in the things of the Spirit.

You claim that those without the Spirit cannot understand spiritual things. King Agrippa understood spiritual things, in particular, things concerning the Jewish Messiah in the OT.

25 But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness.
26 For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner.
27 King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest.
28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.

I see read one word "WORLD"

Only someone with presuppositions needs to change the words of scripture.

I think the onus is on you to defend changing the very words of God... are you his editor?