Immigration To The USA, Is There Evil Intent?

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AndyMaleh

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Is there evil intent? 1000% yes.

Large scale immigration is the exact same thing as war. It's happening in Europe. It's happening in the US.

When the muslims were raping and pillaging in Christian Europe a long time ago, there were certain people living in those Christian strongholds that would open the gates for the invaders to let them in. They were working against their Christian hosts. These people are doing the same thing today. Both in Europe and in the US.

Observe patterns. If reality doesn't match your preconceived theories, then your theories are wrong. Seek truth.
Yes, I've been screaming bloody murder about this for the last 5 years and people keep wanting to be politically correct about it instead of Godly correct. Answer to God, not people. It's wrong to allow Muslims into America and Europe. I am 1000% with that too. From what I've observed, the people who have allowed them in have always been the mediocre evil godless greedy people that just want to prey on them to get cheap labor at the expense of local people's jobs. I am proud of President Trump's policies against them and for having the guts to kick them all out. He's a true man of God. Canada and Europe oughta learn from him instead of acting all icky about it.
 

AndyMaleh

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It's my opinion the current sanctuary states/cities are for future votes

I can't disagree immigrants are needed for farm work, how many American citizen's are going to pick crops? None

I believe criminals, drug addicts, mentally ill, etc are pushed to America's southern border, Fidel Castro isn't alone, George Soros or whoever was payment ng for the food and transportation?

I have always wondered how (7-Eleven) works out their employees from (India)
It's standard across the US, they maintain 80%+ Indian employees in California?
Not just 7-Eleven. I've observed the same about Dunkin Donuts. Even in teeny tiny suburbs around Chicago (e.g. Elk Grove Village), I've been served at Dunkin Donuts by employees who were Indian only. I don't get how they got there as I didn't see any other Indians at those towns.
 

Truth7t7

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You are an immigrant, right?
I'm A US Born Citizen, I Voted For Donald J. Trump, And Will Do So Again.

I'm A Nationalist, Believing In America's Soveringty And Future, This Is My Home.

I Oppose Communism/Socialism And Globalism
 
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wow what a bunch of armchair priveliged forumers who dont live in the real world.

why do some immigrants ' not bother to learn english? ' because they were never taught it! Didnt grow up speaking it! Maybe they come to a new country to escape poverty and death!

maybe some ARE learning it the only way they know how by immersing themselves in your country! but why should they speak english to their own people when they can speak their own langauge fluently and not be made to feel like idiots?


I am amazed at your ignorance. How about get off your high horse and TEACH english?
To get to the US there are a lot of countries one has to pass. We are bordered by only two other countries. Many places can offer the new beginning many immigrants want. There are many places where safe, comfortable, livings can be made and they can have a family.

One of the curious things is that many people pass up the hundreds of other places they can go instead. There is a mutli-thousand mile trek across South and Central America en route to the USA.

The only reason people are risking their life for that journey is because they want to capitalize on the very generous immigrant/refugee social welfare the US offers.

They often aren't learning English either or if they are it isn't there express purpose for being here like you said. They are actually forming their own parallel societies and not assimilating with mainstream society.
 

Truth7t7

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To get to the US there are a lot of countries one has to pass. We are bordered by only two other countries. Many places can offer the new beginning many immigrants want. There are many places where safe, comfortable, livings can be made and they can have a family.

One of the curious things is that many people pass up the hundreds of other places they can go instead. There is a mutli-thousand mile trek across South and Central America en route to the USA.

The only reason people are risking their life for that journey is because they want to capitalize on the very generous immigrant/refugee social welfare the US offers.

They often aren't learning English either or if they are it isn't there express purpose for being here like you said. They are actually forming their own parallel societies and not assimilating with mainstream society.
I Agree

The Vast Majority Of Immigrants To The US Don't Assimilate, And Have No Interest In America, Other Than What They Can (Take)

This Would Be The Same From What I've Seen In Europe, Take, Take, Take

The migrant from Somalia below would be a prime example

Ilhan Abdullahi Omar is an American politician serving as the U.S. Representative for Minnesota's 5th congressional district since 2019.
 
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To get to the US there are a lot of countries one has to pass. We are bordered by only two other countries. Many places can offer the new beginning many immigrants want. There are many places where safe, comfortable, livings can be made and they can have a family.

One of the curious things is that many people pass up the hundreds of other places they can go instead. There is a mutli-thousand mile trek across South and Central America en route to the USA.

The only reason people are risking their life for that journey is because they want to capitalize on the very generous immigrant/refugee social welfare the US offers.

They often aren't learning English either or if they are it isn't there express purpose for being here like you said. They are actually forming their own parallel societies and not assimilating with mainstream society.
I can tell you right now, as someone who lives in Texas, the immigrant population of Mexican/Spanish people REALLY are not trying to fit in.

It’s so bad we have “Spanish Billboards, Spanish ADs on TV/Raido”, and even when I was going to school, they would always print a “Spanish Language” side on the back of all the papers I had to take home.

I’m a firm believer in immigrants learning English, I know its not easy learning a new language, but there are so many opportunities to learn (From programs being held in communities, and there was always a ESL classes for people to take in High School and in College), and even people I’ve met in life, wether they be from Mexico or not, learned English and can speak it.

It just feels like we are pandering to those who don’t wish to learn, and I’ll admit, it legit irritated me when I heard kids in High School speaking Spanish, it’s like: “I live in America, why do I have to heard this stuff?”, and I actually had a “language barrier” problem because the customer who was trying to pay for her groceries, kept putting the number in wrong when it asked for her pin, and she got mad at me. I just don’t get how someone can be okay not being able to read English when paying for groceries.

I know there can be problems and circumstances for people not choosing to learn English, but I just feel like the people who came into the USA properly actually care about the USA, and not the illegals who get in because they want better jobs, taking away jobs for people that need them.

I try to be calmer and not judge, for it is not right for me as a Christian to judge, but man is it hard. I’m not racist, I just don’t like people being lazy and taking advantage of how in Texas, we basically “bend over backwards” to where they never need to learn English. Yes I was on food stamps for a bit, but I finally got off of them and I don’t plan on being on them again, hopefully. But it still bugs me how immigrants can chose to not accept the help we have for them, I understand for illegals because if found out they get sent back, as far as I’m aware, but it’s something I need to pray about, clearly, lol.
 
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I'm A US Born Citizen, I Voted For Donald J. Trump, And Will Do So Again.

I'm A Nationalist, Believing In America's Soveringty And Future, This Is My Home.

I Oppose Communism/Socialism And Globalism
She put the family name (Jamaica) in association with drug usage (I'm from Jamaica)

She lied about being hip in college, Tupoc, Snoop Doggy, weren't even in business when she claimed she followed them.

Then there is the Adulterous affairs with (Willie Brown) and much not mentioned.

The life of Kamala Harris would make (Mary Magdalene) blush!
https://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/is-kamala-harris-an-african-american.194159/page-2 #32
 

Truth7t7

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What's your point, the information below is in Kim's link

Truth7t7 said:
I agree 100%!

Hard to believe President Trump has endured the almost 4 years of brutal punishment before the world to see, (A True Patriot and American Hero)(y)

Looks like prosecutor John Durham has a guilty plea coming, on the corrupt FBI lawyer "Kevin Clinesmith" that changed info on the FISA warrant, just the tip of the iceberg on the Presedential witch hunt, Russia Gate.

Camess Response: I just heard this today on KRMG.
 
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Lots of anger there.
What is privileged? Law abiding?
In the America I use to know immigrants expecting to attain citizenship status were required to speak and read basic English.They would have to prove it in their interview with immigration and naturalization officials when filing the N400 citizen application.

Most people abroad know English. There really is no excuse not to when living in a country that borders America. There is also a difference between those who claim not to speak the language and those who know the language but refuse to speak it. What person steals into a country and then claims to be too dumb to speak the native tongue?
In Germany some retail products are labeled in other language but not as a matter of mandate.
America seems to be the only country that is weak when protecting its self in these areas.

Well, I definitely agree on this issue. My father came here from Europe (knowing English). My mother did not know English but learned it in her first year here. There were no "free English classes" like there are today. She learned because she had to and because she lived here.

There really is no excuse NOT to learn the language of the Country you live in and that is for everyone. There are free classes, even.

And, yes, I have actually been told by some .. living here 10, 20 even 30 years!!! and they dont speak a word of English because they are catered to. It does not matter WHERE you come from, you can Learn English.
 

mailmandan

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Democrats Rage as Senate Parliamentarian Blocks Pathway to Citizenship

https://cbdnewsupdate.com/democrats-rage-as-senate-parliamentarian-blocks-pathway-to-citizenship/

“The decision by Elizabeth MacDonough, the Senate’s nonpartisan interpreter of its often enigmatic rules, is a damaging and disheartening setback for President Joe Biden, congressional Democrats and their allies in the pro-immigration and progressive communities,” noted the Associated Press (AP).

“It badly damages Democrats’ hopes of unilaterally enacting — over Republican opposition — changes letting several categories of immigrants gain permanent residence and possibly citizenship,” it added.

As news of the setback poured out over social media, leftists and their allies were unanimous in their frustration, with many urging Senate Democrats to simply ignore MacDonough and ram the initiatives through anyway.
 
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SophieT

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Maybe it is still happening. A couple weeks ago at work some big Cuban guy with tattoos clubbed a tiny defensive woman with a pipe and then took off running. Not sure if the cops caught him or not. He needs to go to prison and then deported back to where he came from. There are a lot of Cubans where I work and none of them bothered to learn to speak English except for a few that learned how to say good morning and an occasional thank you. Generally, they stay in their little cliques.
that's horrible

and you nailed the problem. all these illegals are not here to become American. (don't know if the Cubans you speak of were legal or not)

I guess you have seen the current insanity at the border?

part of the problem regarding the language, is the fact they cater to those who do not speak English. they are comfortable with not speaking English
 
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SophieT

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wow what a bunch of armchair priveliged forumers who dont live in the real world.

why do some immigrants ' not bother to learn english? ' because they were never taught it! Didnt grow up speaking it! Maybe they come to a new country to escape poverty and death!

maybe some ARE learning it the only way they know how by immersing themselves in your country! but why should they speak english to their own people when they can speak their own langauge fluently and not be made to feel like idiots?


I am amazed at your ignorance. How about get off your high horse and TEACH english?
so according to you, people should what? quit their jobs and teach all the illegals English?

you live in an alternate universe
 
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SophieT

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the onus to learn to speak, read and write in English is on those seeking to become U.S. Citizens,

exactly

if you are illegal and not intending to change that status, since someone in government is always presenting some plan to make them all legal, why bother

there are enough illegals in here now to form their own country

we have Spanish music and tv stations, newspapers...everything is translated...food labels...everything

they are catered to. I have no problem with translating or a 2nd language, but not at the expense of people continuing to live here as though they were still in their country of origin with better surroundings
 
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SophieT

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“The decision by Elizabeth MacDonough, the Senate’s nonpartisan interpreter of its often enigmatic rules, is a damaging and disheartening setback for President Joe Biden, congressional Democrats and their allies in the pro-immigration and progressive communities,” noted the Associated Press (AP).
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Magenta

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Is there evil intent? 1000% yes.

Large scale immigration is the exact same thing as war. It's happening in Europe. It's happening in the US.

When the muslims were raping and pillaging in Christian Europe a long time ago, there were certain people living in those Christian strongholds that would open the gates for the invaders to let them in. They were working against their Christian hosts. These people are doing the same thing today. Both in Europe and in the US.

Observe patterns. If reality doesn't match your preconceived theories, then your theories are wrong. Seek truth.
In Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, “Slavery, Terrorism and Islam,” he documents the way Muslims slowly develop a presence in various countries and as their population numbers build, become more aggressive and assertive about exercising Sharia law.

“Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a
complete, total, 100% system of life,” Dr. Hammond notes in his book.


“Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components.
The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.”


Their takeover of a country, what Dr. Hammond refers to as “Islamization,” begins when the
population of Muslims reaches a critical mass, and they being to agitate for various privileges.


Open, free, democratic societies are particularly vulnerable. “When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well,” he notes.

This is how it works, according to Dr. Hammond:

When the Muslim population remains under 2% in a country, they will be seen primarily as
a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to other citizens. This was the situation in 2015:

United States — Muslim 0.6%

Australia — Muslim 1.5%

Canada — Muslim 1.9%

China — Muslim 1.8%

Italy — Muslim 1.5%

Norway — Muslim 1.8%

As the Muslim population reaches 2% to 5%, they begin to recruit from ethnic minorities
and disaffected groups, within prisons and street gangs. This is happening in:


Denmark — Muslim 2%

Germany — Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

Spain — Muslim 4%

Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

“From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population,” Dr. Hammond notes. “For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food” and increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature such food on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is happening in:

France — Muslim 8%

Philippines — 5%

Sweden — Muslim 5%

Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

Soon they begin to apply pressure to allow Sharia law within their own communities (sometimes ghettos).

“When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions,” Dr. Hammond notes. “In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.” These tensions are seen on a regular basis in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%

India — Muslim 13.4%

Israel — Muslim 16%

Kenya — Muslim 10%

Russia — Muslim 15%

The violence increases when the Muslim population reaches 20%. “After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,” such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

“At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare,” such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%

Chad — Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, persecution of non-believing “infidels” rises significantly, including sporadic ethnic
cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and Jizya, a tax placed on infidels, such as in:


Albania — Muslim 70%

Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out “infidels,” and move toward a 100% Muslim society, which has been experienced to some degree in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

Egypt — Muslim 90%

Gaza — Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

Iran — Muslim 98%

Iraq — Muslim 97%

Jordan — Muslim 92%

Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan — Muslim 97%

Palestine — Muslim 99%

Syria — Muslim 90%

Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

A 100% Muslim society will theoretically usher in their version of peace — the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. “Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,” such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

Somalia — Muslim 100%

Yemen — Muslim 100%

Dr. Hammond observes this Islamic ideal is seldom realized. “Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.”

“It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia law,” he states.

Dr. Hammond is also concerned by demographic trends. “Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population,” he observes. “But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.” source
 

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Did a quick Google search and the most recent data I found was 2019. As of 2019 there were about 1.3 million Cuban people in America out of 328 million americans. 1/300 of the population is not indicative of a mass immigration
 

mailmandan

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Tucker Carlson: Biden knew the border crisis was coming, he wants illegal immigrants here

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-biden-border-crisis-illegal-immigrants

Several large groups of Haitians are coming up from various countries in Latin America, where they have been living, to come here. To be perfectly clear: These are not refugees. They are not being persecuted by any government. That's why they haven’t applied for asylum in any of the countries between Haiti and the United States. These are economic migrants — rich enough for a plane ticket and a smartphone, but eager for the free healthcare, education, housing vouchers, food stamps and much more Joe Biden has promised them if they make it. Of course, they’re coming from Haiti and the rest of the world. You would too. They’d be crazy not to come. Once they get here, the Biden administration plans to give them voting rights. That’s in the works right now. They could very well be choosing your president at some point down the road. This manufactured crisis is an attempt to change the demographics of the United States in order to give permanent power to the Democratic Party. That’s all it is, no matter what they tell you.