Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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And each can go to far.
its like the view everyone who believes in eternal security are calvinist, or free gracers or love their sin. When you think this is all there is, any chance of conversation is destroyed, and you start to attack anyone who believes in eternal security, it can get nasty, to the point of name calling, false accusation, and blame shifting.
to much of that happens, and it gives God a bad name in my view
its like the view everyone who believes in eternal security are calvinist, or free gracers or love their sin. When you think this is all there is, any chance of conversation is destroyed, and you start to attack anyone who believes in eternal security, it can get nasty, to the point of name calling, false accusation, and blame shifting.
to much of that happens, and it gives God a bad name in my view
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We are all good.
It seems like we have 3 views here .
1) Forseen faith
2) 'Absolute predestination '
or 3) What the bible actually says .
The first two are just variations of the same error on Total depravity , Election, Predestination and Perseverence . If your a Arminain you are closer to Calvinism . This is a in-house squabble. Most denomination s are caught in one or the other ditches. Thats why we get folks conceding oh I must be a 4 point calvinist; I must be a 3 or 2 pointer not realising both systems are in error.
1) Forseen faith
2) 'Absolute predestination '
or 3) What the bible actually says .
The first two are just variations of the same error on Total depravity , Election, Predestination and Perseverence . If your a Arminain you are closer to Calvinism . This is a in-house squabble. Most denomination s are caught in one or the other ditches. Thats why we get folks conceding oh I must be a 4 point calvinist; I must be a 3 or 2 pointer not realising both systems are in error.
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