Who Was Christopher Columbus?

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Mii

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It's okay most people do not even remember what you did or they repeat the memes of social media.

Christopher Columbus began a period of brave western exploration, migration, international trade, the spreading of Christianity, and would ultimately lead to the greatest democratic creation in human history.

That is why we celebrate his accomplishments. Not for solely discovering a new world which was true for Europe because they knew nothing about the Americas.
Oh I see why the thread now. The memorial day is coming up in 2 days :eek:
I didn't realize that. That gives me two days to be in the mood to get an adult version and not just a casual 5th grade explanation ha. We'll see.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Oh I see why the thread now. The memorial day is coming up in 2 days :eek:
I didn't realize that. That gives me two days to be in the mood to get an adult version and not just a casual 5th grade explanation ha. We'll see.
Here is one article written by a good historian.

https://americanminute.com/blogs/to...real-reason-columbus-sailed-west-bill-federer

Also you can read Christopher Columbus's journal. It provides his intentions, thoughts, and events of his exploration.
 

stepbystep

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From what I have read about him, Columbus was not a nice guy. And, apparently, he wasn't good at recognizing China. Guess those Natives he discovered looked Chinese?
 

Roughsoul1991

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From what I have read about him, Columbus was not a nice guy. And, apparently, he wasn't good at recognizing China. Guess those Natives he discovered looked Chinese?
Can you post the source of which you read from? In his personal journal he treated the Indians in a civil manner unless you mean the cannibals that not only threatened him but the Indian tribes around them.
 

stepbystep

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Was Christopher Columbus a bad guy, and was his discovery of the route to America bad?
Christopher Columbus made four trips across the Atlantic Ocean from Spain: in 1492, 1493, 1498 and 1502.
According to first-hand accounts, including his own diary, initial contact with the natives resulted in exchange of gifts and mutual admiration.
The Europeans and the natives were surely like aliens to each other in every way. But Columbus was not a perpetrator of any crime or disrespect to the people.
Two things eventually happened that led to death and bad blood between the natives and Spaniards that would follow in Columbus’ wake.
Disease, primarily small pox, killed many natives. Europeans unwittingly brought the disease to a people with no immunity. Conversely, the natives introduced to Europeans a new disease called Syphilis.
The Spaniards looked upon the bounty of the New World’s riches as theirs for the taking with little regard for the existing cultures. They followed in Columbus’ footsteps seeking gold and silver.
There are many great stories of how the natives fought back and won in many cases against the Spanish. If you read further into history, you’ll find that the Spanish approach to conquering failed. What succeeded was community building by way of colonization, another approach taken a years later by the British, followed by the French and Dutch.
Columbus is not a bad guy or a good guy. He played his particular role in history.

Was Columbus really a bad guy? | Carla G. Harper - Author ...


But the man credited for discovering the "New World" has long been considered a contentious figure in US history for his treatment of the indigenous communities he encountered and for his role in the violent colonization at their expense.


Dozens of cities and states -- such as Minnesota, Alaska, Vermont and Oregon -- have already replaced Columbus Day with Indigenous People's Day.
Now, in response to the nationwide protests and conversation surrounding racial inequality, people have been tearing down statues of Columbus to bring awareness to the cruelty he brought upon indigenous people.

Christopher Columbus: Why he wasn't the hero we learned ...


I suspect it just depends on who is doing the reporting. I watched a Documentary on Columbus on Discovery Channel some time ago, and they were not too flattering of him either.

One final link

Was Christopher Columbus a Hero or Villain? - Biography
 

Roughsoul1991

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Was Christopher Columbus a bad guy, and was his discovery of the route to America bad?
Christopher Columbus made four trips across the Atlantic Ocean from Spain: in 1492, 1493, 1498 and 1502.
According to first-hand accounts, including his own diary, initial contact with the natives resulted in exchange of gifts and mutual admiration.
The Europeans and the natives were surely like aliens to each other in every way. But Columbus was not a perpetrator of any crime or disrespect to the people.
Two things eventually happened that led to death and bad blood between the natives and Spaniards that would follow in Columbus’ wake.
Disease, primarily small pox, killed many natives. Europeans unwittingly brought the disease to a people with no immunity. Conversely, the natives introduced to Europeans a new disease called Syphilis.
The Spaniards looked upon the bounty of the New World’s riches as theirs for the taking with little regard for the existing cultures. They followed in Columbus’ footsteps seeking gold and silver.
There are many great stories of how the natives fought back and won in many cases against the Spanish. If you read further into history, you’ll find that the Spanish approach to conquering failed. What succeeded was community building by way of colonization, another approach taken a years later by the British, followed by the French and Dutch.
Columbus is not a bad guy or a good guy. He played his particular role in history.

Was Columbus really a bad guy? | Carla G. Harper - Author ...


But the man credited for discovering the "New World" has long been considered a contentious figure in US history for his treatment of the indigenous communities he encountered and for his role in the violent colonization at their expense.


Dozens of cities and states -- such as Minnesota, Alaska, Vermont and Oregon -- have already replaced Columbus Day with Indigenous People's Day.
Now, in response to the nationwide protests and conversation surrounding racial inequality, people have been tearing down statues of Columbus to bring awareness to the cruelty he brought upon indigenous people.

Christopher Columbus: Why he wasn't the hero we learned ...


I suspect it just depends on who is doing the reporting. I watched a Documentary on Columbus on Discovery Channel some time ago, and they were not too flattering of him either.

One final link

Was Christopher Columbus a Hero or Villain? - Biography
Yah it all about who wrote it including which college professor, historian or it may be simply a journalist.

He was a man who did good and bad through our modern lens of looking back 100s of years ago. Judging as if we would of made better decisions. We may would of but the majority usually goes with the culture not against it.

We literally have Christians from every denomination who either believe abortion is okay or act they are morally exempt if they say women's choice.

A choice that has killed millions of children and even women who's abortions went badly.
 

Lanolin

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he was an italian explorer, for some reason I thought he was spanish
Ha shows what I dont know about history

Columbia is named after him.

He was catholic. His voyages were sponsored and he thought he had discovered a route to India. They were after the spices. But they didnt find them!

Maybe its thanks to Columbus that everyone can now eat potatoes and tomatoes.
 

Eli1

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Maybe its thanks to Columbus that everyone can now eat potatoes and tomatoes.
Indeed. Who doesn’t love French fries?
 

Eli1

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Here we are again.
 

ResidentAlien

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Where I live we don't acknowledge Columbus Day; instead, it's called Indigenous Day.
 

Lynx

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Columbus was a space alien sent to spur human expansion, stimulate technology eventually resulting in the industrial revolution, and ultimately population explosion. Soon his people will come back to harvest us for their pantries.

Yep, the entire colonization of the Western hemisphere was all part of their plan. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.