The Mark Of The Beast Won't Be Forced, But Willfully Received, By Deception In False Miracles

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Infinite_Ark

Active member
Sep 19, 2020
165
71
28
#41
Yes scripture silences the false claims, that all the world will be forced into taking the mark, (Wrong) :)
Did I miss a reply? You answered yourself there.

How long have people feared this prophecy? How many leaders in history were thought to be the dread beast?
Relax. If God is in control why worry if you're saved?
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
May 19, 2020
7,685
2,492
113
#42
Relax. If God is in control why worry if you're saved?
I agree 100%

It's the false teaching in dispensationalism, that's promoting the propaganda

Antichrist death squads on every street corner, guillotines for christians in every town square?

Dallas Theological Tim Lahaye (Left Behind) Sci-Fi, And They Believe It?
 

Infinite_Ark

Active member
Sep 19, 2020
165
71
28
#43
I agree 100%

It's the false teaching in dispensationalism, that's promoting the propaganda

Antichrist death squads on every street corner, guillotines for christians in every town square?

Dallas Theological Tim Lahaye (Left Behind) Sci-Fi, And They Believe It?
I worked in the entertainment industry for awhile. It's like the scripting of a movie all these ideas about what God means, what he intends for the end of the world. People living in this moment are worried about what doesn't exist yet. But the drama fuels the fear and then it is the same old story line that divides the actors.

The protagonist antagonist frame that surrounds every script put to the screen is being generated in the church community.
 
S

Scribe

Guest
#44
I'm not into exchanging truth for tolerance, sorta like saying homosexuality is an alternative life style, or transgender men are really females

It's my opinion its deception, the focus is on (Dispensationalism)

Not only is it deception, it's a lie!
You started this over again with "It wont be forced, but willfully received."

Having started it again you are communicating that this is your intended point of contention.

You have been shown that it is grammatically correct to call it forced if you are told you must receive the mark or be killed.

Arguing for the word SHOULD is not persuasive because the original Greek word here for cause is just one word and not two.
The ESV reads.
And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak (does that mean he might not speak?) and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. If you say that he might not kill them then you must also say the might not even speak. It is a strain at an attempt to change or ignore intended meaning that is obvious to anyone.

The Greek word is poiēsē and means "cause" in this context, The KJV using two English words "Should Cause" is more of an old English style of saying things and one cannot hinge an argument on the word Should. Your only argument must be based on the meaning of the Greek word poiese, and "to cause" or "should cause" or "might cause" all say the same thing which is that the "Image of the beast which has been given life is the One behind the execution orders, or carrying out of the orders. That is was this image of the beast given life and ability to speak that is the one who would cause them to be killed if they did not worship and receive the mark.

Returning to your point of contention "It wont be forced, but willfully received."

Those who receive the mark will be damned to the Lake of Fire.
9And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

So I agree that they will have to willfully receive it.

It is common sense that not everyone receives the mark or no one would be saved would they? It is understood that it will be some kind of law or rule that goes forth from this evil administration that all men are required to do this not that all men are eventually branded.

Yes they will be forced, by fear of death to make the choice and they will suffer the consequences if they let this forced coercion cause them to love their life too much.