Is Acts 3 to Jews and Proselytes only ?

They did not have to. The fact that God was going to redeem mankind by His Son was established from the foundation of the earth. They did not have to understand how He would do it, all they had to do was have faith in the promises that were given to them. By doing that righteousness was imputed but God knew that the Son would eventually give his life so that God could be just and the justifier of those that put their faith in Him.

If you are a drunken derelict with only one brain cell left and you call upon Jesus to save you He will do so and you don't even have to have heard about the cross yet. Of course it will be explained as you continue but you can get born again just by Crying out to Jesus and saying Jesus I believe you can forgive me and change me. And He WILL. Many people have.

You are demanding that one is not saved until they understand an entire Sunday School Lesson on The purpose of the cross, not so. Faith in Christ can be progressive for an individual today just as you see it laid out in the Gospels.

When I was first put in Jail at 18 years old I was in a temporary cell with two other inmates, it was restricted in that we could not get a visitor, a bible or books until we were processed and moved to another jail. A 'mistake' was made with my paperwork and I was held there for about 18 days. I was miserable and praying to get out of jail at the beginning but then as the days went buy I started praying that God would change who I was and the bad personality that I had become.

I first saw the words "Jesus Saves" written on the wall of this restricted confinement cell. When I saw it, it appealed to my hungry sould and I prayed that Jesus would save me. I did not know what the artist who wrote it on the wall had in mind and I did not know exactly what it meant. I wanted him to change me. Then I asked him to help me quit lying. I suddenly was overwhelmed with the knowledge of my sins. I had just lied that very day to a couple of inmates about some meaningless story I made up, to impress them I suppose. I started telling God I will not lie anymore. (Repentance) But not only did I recognize I had to quit right then but that I also needed to tell those guys that I lied too that day that it was just a lie story I made up. I was embarrassed but I was so convicted about lying that I knew I would have no rest until I confessed. Only then did I feel like God forgave me and then I wondered why I cared so much. I had always lied and never cared one bit. Why the sudden change? Well, I had been asking the Lord to change me, and I had seen the message on the wall Jesus Saves and I had asked him to save me. God knowing my heart and that I meant change who I was, I think maybe that was when I was born again. What do you think? Is that possible. I had no idea what the cross meant at this time.

You seem to think one must understand everything Paul taught before they are saved but Paul taught people after they put faith in Christ and I am sure most of them did not comprehend the death burial and resurrection on day one of their conversion. The scripture you are posting about what he taught should be understood in the context of teaching them over time.

You are getting too stiff with the interpretations.

So basically none of the 3 points I mentioned as secrets that was revealed to Paul in that earlier post you replied to, are contained in the book of John.

Would you agree with that?

Its simple. Jesus died for your sins , was buried, and rose again the third day according to the Scriptures. So by believing this we recieve Jesus . How simple is that ? Rom 10 .9 10 is how we appropriate it . Believing from the heart till the receiving Jesus .

Could Abraham have been saved if he did not believe specifically ?

You see brother, you laid forth those three points in posting # 16. I commented on them in my posting # 34 to which you did not comment. Now you present them to me as mysteries of Christ's Body without a counter argument to what I said. My answer is that they are disputed by me and you haven't shown me if and why I'm wrong. In any case, Peter, a Jew, even with a cursory knowledge of the Tanakh, would have known about Rapture. Paul shown secret things, but the Rapture is a settled fact from 2nd Kings Chapter 2. It is up you now to show why Peter did not know about "being taken as a companion" from Matthew 24 and Luke 21. Does it not say in both passages on the end of the age that our Lord addressed His DISCIPLES?

1. In Matthew 24 one is "taken" (in judgment - airo - Gk.) and one is "taken like an intimate companion" ("paralambano - Gk.) If you are in bed asleep and you are taken, that means a second party, with power over gravity, TAKES you.
2. In Luke 21:36 if one is worthy one "stands before the Son of Man". If Jesus has not yet returned to earth, you MUST, by default, be caught away to Him.

Peter was privy to both discourses.

I think I was born again before I even understood all that. Crying out to Jesus to save me and he heard my cry. HOW SIMPLE IS THAT?

I think I was born again before I even understood all that. Crying out to Jesus to save me and he heard my cry. HOW SIMPLE IS THAT?

You see brother, you laid forth those three points in posting # 16. I commented on them in my posting # 34 to which you did not comment. Now you present them to me as mysteries of Christ's Body without a counter argument to what I said. My answer is that they are disputed by me and you haven't shown me if and why I'm wrong. In any case, Peter, a Jew, even with a cursory knowledge of the Tanakh, would have known about Rapture. Paul shown secret things, but the Rapture is a settled fact from 2nd Kings Chapter 2. It is up you now to show why Peter did not know about "being taken as a companion" from Matthew 24 and Luke 21. Does it not say in both passages on the end of the age that our Lord addressed His DISCIPLES?

1. In Matthew 24 one is "taken" (in judgment - airo - Gk.) and one is "taken like an intimate companion" ("paralambano - Gk.) If you are in bed asleep and you are taken, that means a second party, with power over gravity, TAKES you.
2. In Luke 21:36 if one is worthy one "stands before the Son of Man". If Jesus has not yet returned to earth, you MUST, by default, be caught away to Him.

Peter was privy to both discourses.

God told him that through his seed he would bless many nations. Abraham did not understand that is was about Jesus but he was still saved by believing the promise. That was the Gospel even though it was not yet called the Gospel. Telling people behold that the Son of David prophesied had come and would take away the sin of the world, and heal the sick and open the prison doors is the Gospel before the cross and after the cross.

Crying out to Jesus, you must have had some understanding of who he was and a reason to cry out to him for ?

God told him that through his seed he would bless many nations. Abraham did not understand that is was about Jesus but he was still saved by believing the promise. That was the Gospel even though it was not yet called the Gospel. Telling people behold that the Son of David prophesied had come and would take away the sin of the world, and heal the sick and open the prison doors is the Gospel before the cross and after the cross.

Christ is the ark and and the arrow and the quiver; the bow and the mighty arm that draws it.

You really don't look for Christ when you read scripture? John 5:39 means nothing to you?

He is the Salvation of God, enfleshed - all those things in Genesis are about Him, it's the whole reason they were written

Genesis 15:5 tells us clearly what good news was preached to Abraham that he believed in and was justified by in vs 6.

And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

No need to read into the scripture and infer that Abraham also knew in Genesis 15, "that the Son of David prophesied had come and would take away the sin of the world, and heal the sick and open the prison doors is the Gospel before the cross and after the cross".

He believed God will give him uncountable descendants, despite Sarah and him being well advanced in age, which was also very good news since a barren woman was viewed much more negatively then compared to now, and God justify him because of that belief

You are misunderstanding the rapture of the body of Christ with Jesus 2nd coming and mixing them up, no wonder you think the rapture is found in those passages.

The rapture does not involve Jesus returning the earth, the lord will descend to meet us in the air, and we will be caught up with him and brought into the heaven.

Only in his 2nd coming will his feet land on the earth, more precisely the mount of olives as stated in Zechariah 14.

The 2nd coming is definitely found in the ot as well as the 4 gospels I agree, but not the rapture of the body of Christ.

If the rapture was a mystery and was revealed to Paul, surely this rules out anyone else knowing about it before ?

I think you did not read my posting. Try to answer what I said. You and I are not far apart, but you've attributed to me things that my words did not convey. The context was whether Peter heard our Lord's words as He taught then about the Rapture. The only way to disagree with that is to deny a Rapture in Luke 21:36. If you do deny it, we can discuss that separately.

And tell me what you think of Matthew 13:37-43. The end of the age is a harvest. The reapers are angels. They first gather the Tares to be burned. Then they GATHER the Wheat, which is the good seed of God and "children of the kingdom", to God's BARN. Is this not a Rapture? No matter where you place God's Barn, Christians from Chile and Siberia and Australia and Greenland are "GATHERED". How could this be if they are not MOVED from their home countries? The Greek word "Harpazo", which we take to mean a Rapture, literally means, "caught away". The Greek word implies movement caused by a second party, but direction is not given. If all the children of the Kingdom worldwide are GATHERED, no matter where to, it is a Rapture. All you have to then surmise is (i) where angels are likely to TAKE them, (ii) why angels are used, and (iii) where God's Barn is likely to be.

If you take my proof from those TAKEN (as intimate companions - "paralambano" - Gk.) in Matthew 24, I have now presented you with THREE occasions in the gospels where the Rapture is taught. And Peter was present on each occasion.

In the first place, Jesus cannot be talking about the Rapture, otherwise Paul would not say in 1 Cor 15:51

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

If your premise is true, that Jesus taught the Rapture before Paul was saved, Paul would not have said "I shew you a mystery".

How can something be a mystery if it was already taught before, as you are claiming.

Make it simple. Give verses for the Rapture being a mystery, and how nobody knew of Enoch and Elijah when the whole nation of Israel knew it. The "mystery" in 1st Corinthians 15:51 is not the Rapture. It how those LIVING in their corruptible bodies at the time of the Lorcoming, will put on incorruptible bodies. The Rapture is not mentioned in 1st Corinthians 15.

The "mystery" in 1st Corinthians 15:51 is not the Rapture. It is how those LIVING in their corruptible bodies at the time of the Lord's coming, will put on incorruptible bodies. The Rapture is not mentioned in 1st Corinthians 15.

There is no "mystery" about Rapture. Though they are not mentioned directly, it is a simple case of angels lifting up men and placing them somewhere else in defiance of gravity.

Do you think anyone understood the rapture as taught by Paul ,before revealed . In the same exact way. Is this another case where we have the benefit of looking back . What evidence do you have that they understood the rapture ( as taught by Paul . In the same exact way we understand it ?