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posthuman

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the Michigan courts have thrown out GOP requests to block certification of the election results ((Biden won by over 150k votes)), point-by-point refuting all of the fraud allegations and dismissing the POTUS's claims as baseless, ignorant & suspiciously politically rather than factually motivated, calling it an attempt to use judicial activism to take power away from the people and give the GOP legislature or executive branch an opening to appoint new electors or send the election to the house of representatives.

in other words, the courts see this as Trump trying to steal the election. kinda ironic huh.

here's a link which some of you will summarily dismiss without even reading it, because it's not from an ultra-biased right-wing source ((but why would those guys be reporting on this?))
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/politics/trump-michigan-election/index.htmlc

He that answereth a matter before he heareth it,
it is folly and shame unto him.
(Proverbs 18:3)​
 

cv5

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you said it was unconstitutional for government representatives in Chicago to say it may be unwise to have large gatherings on the the upcoming holiday.
i asked you if you could point me to what part of the constitution forbids the government from giving advice.
you replied by spitting out a bunch of angry lies about me.


so, i think i understand that your reply was essentially a "no, you can't explain how the government making a recommendation based on medical facts is unconstitutional" -- is this incorrect?


i am pretty sad about my mom deciding not to have the family meet at her house this year. but i guess i can't accuse her of treason over it *shrug*


why are you lying so much lately? and so bitter?
this is what i was talking about, what i have been talking about, with the whole, as believers not of this world, citizens of heaven, not of earth, we ought to be extremely suspicious of worldly political parties who try to convince us their interests and motivations are equivalent to God's, such that we ought to identify ourselves with them, believe and trust them, and broadcast their talking points. it produces awful fruit.
OK man. Have a wonderful non-Thanksgiving. And have a blessed evening too.
 

GST

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Could you point me to the 'Thanksgiving holiday clause' of the constitution?
Having trouble finding it. My mom cancelled it a month ago, but I'd really like something to wave under her nose.

Is it next to the emoluments clause?
I highly doubt if you have read the constitution, amendments, or any writings about the intent of the Framers. Show your Mom Amendment 1 it’s covered there “the right of the people peaceably to assemble.” you are having trouble finding it because you don’t know what is states. A little study would be nice before you spew out such nonsense.
 

cv5

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the Michigan courts have thrown out GOP requests to block certification of the election results ((Biden won by over 150k votes)), point-by-point refuting all of the fraud allegations and dismissing the POTUS's claims as baseless, ignorant & suspiciously politically rather than factually motivated, calling it an attempt to use judicial activism to take power away from the people and give the GOP legislature or executive branch an opening to appoint new electors or send the election to the house of representatives.

in other words, the courts see this as Trump trying to steal the election. kinda ironic huh.

here's a link which some of you will summarily dismiss without even reading it, because it's not from an ultra-biased right-wing source ((but why would those guys be reporting on this?))
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/politics/trump-michigan-election/index.htmlc

He that answereth a matter before he heareth it,
it is folly and shame unto him.
(Proverbs 18:3)​
Absolutely irrelevant left-wing agitprop from your buddies at fake news CNN. The courts are merely one portion of a well-thought-out strategy. The courts have no power to force the state legislators to do anything. It is the state houses who have all the power to do anything they want. If they smell a rat they can simply deny certification until the expiration date of January 30. They can deny certification for any whimsical reason they want.......for as long as they want. They can also refuse to send electors........for any reason they choose. Or if they choose they can send electors that will elect President Trump!!! .......REGARDLESS OF THE POPULAR VOTE.

Yes my friend elections work far differently than you would imagine. I suggest you brush up on your civics lessons.
 

cv5

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the Michigan courts have thrown out GOP requests to block certification of the election results ((Biden won by over 150k votes)), point-by-point refuting all of the fraud allegations and dismissing the POTUS's claims as baseless, ignorant & suspiciously politically rather than factually motivated, calling it an attempt to use judicial activism to take power away from the people and give the GOP legislature or executive branch an opening to appoint new electors or send the election to the house of representatives.

in other words, the courts see this as Trump trying to steal the election. kinda ironic huh.

here's a link which some of you will summarily dismiss without even reading it, because it's not from an ultra-biased right-wing source ((but why would those guys be reporting on this?))
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/politics/trump-michigan-election/index.htmlc

He that answereth a matter before he heareth it,
it is folly and shame unto him.
(Proverbs 18:3)​
BTW.....those are Democrat judges ROLF. Unfortunately for them the legislatures are dominated by Republicans in all of these four states!
 
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Absolutely irrelevant left-wing agitprop from your buddies at fake news CNN. The courts are merely one portion of a well-thought-out strategy. The courts have no power to force the state legislators to do anything. It is the state houses who have all the power to do anything they want. If they smell a rat they can simply deny certification until the expiration date of January 30. They can deny certification for any whimsical reason they want.......for as long as they want. They can also refuse to send electors........for any reason they choose. Or if they choose they can send electors that will elect President Trump!!! .......REGARDLESS OF THE POPULAR VOTE.

Yes my friend elections work far differently than you would imagine. I suggest you brush up on your civics lessons.
Case closed. Lesson learned. Trump won. Cv5 is offering civics lessons for all of us morons thinking Biden won.
 
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why are you lying so much lately? and so bitter?
this is what i was talking about, what i have been talking about, with the whole, as believers not of this world, citizens of heaven, not of earth, we ought to be extremely suspicious of worldly political parties who try to convince us their interests and motivations are equivalent to God's, such that we ought to identify ourselves with them, believe and trust them, and broadcast their talking points. it produces awful fruit.
Not only that, it stinks up the whole forum.
 

posthuman

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BTW.....those are Democrat judges ROLF. Unfortunately for them the legislatures are dominated by Republicans in all of these four states!
the judicial branch is not supposed to be partisan, so i don't know what you're talking about ??

it sounds like you think justice ought to be perverted? you want 'republican judges' ?
 

posthuman

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Case closed. Lesson learned. Trump won. Cv5 is offering civics lessons for all of us morons thinking Biden won.

it really does sound like a number of people want the POTUS to steal an election he lost.

you know who likes irony? the LORD God Almighty does. :)
 
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EleventhHour

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here lately, yeah. :(

wow i shouldn't even be in this section anymore. i was here to talk to Christians and here i am uselessly getting mocked at by republicans instead :unsure:
Exactly, for them both identities seem to be one and the same, if you not blindly supporting the Republican party a big question mark

is placed over your head as to whether you are a Christian... and you cannot admit your are wrong because you have a big ego. :D
 

PennEd

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Since the fraud is manifest, it's disheartening to see the narrative change on the left from "There is no evidence of fraud", To "the fraud is so overwhelming, with such a large vote lead because of the fraud, that there's no way it can be overturned".

I can say honestly, and unequivocally, that if the fraud occurred by the republicans, EVEN though I want them to win, I'd be outraged if it wasn't investigated, overturned, and if true, ALL individuals who voted illegally, prevented Democrat poll watchers from polling locations, gave illegal instructions to postal workers or others, prosecuted and jailed.

Those of you on the other side, why aren't you upset that the integrity of our elections, which means our freedom and democracy, are in serious jeopardy through all this cheating?
 

cv5

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Case closed. Lesson learned. Trump won. Cv5 is offering civics lessons for all of us morons thinking Biden won.
And you thought it was all about the wee voters and CNN agitprop eh? That's too bad. Oh no my friend there are many safeguards built into the US election system it is the best in the world.

Now Sydney Powell is building up a mountain of evidence against these Dominion voting machines that you should look into. So maybe you better get on it eh? You know......to preserve your Republic and all. You had better do your own independent research because if you're waiting for CNN to spoonfeed you you will fall flat on your face.

I have no understanding of why I, being Canadian, should know more about the principles of the US election process than do you Americans.
 

cv5

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the judicial branch is not supposed to be partisan, so i don't know what you're talking about ??

it sounds like you think justice ought to be perverted? you want 'republican judges' ?
Man that is soooo naive. Why in the world you think Trump installed conservative judges all over the place including the SCOTUS? LOL! It makes an absolutely enormous difference.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg was absolutely notorious in creating a law rather than interpreting it.
 

Nehemiah6

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To someone who denies a virus and thinks it is a hoax it would seem like hysteria, but it is not...
No one is denying the existence of the Wuhan virus. But sane people have arrived at the conclusion that the so-called Pandemic was a Scamdemic. And an objective analysis of everything regarding coronavirus by unbiased and objective experts in various fields will prove that this was indeed a scamdemic.

The sad fact is that absolutely no Western government at any level (municipal, state, provincial, or federal) has made the effort to set up a TOTALLY INDEPENDENT investigative commission to carefully examine everything that was said and published in this regard from January to November 2020. Every statement and every guideline needs to be carefully examined, since it was all fraudulent. Many studies have already shown that the lockdowns were TOTALLY WORTHLESS.

But the forensic investigation must also determine whether or not there was a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY involving China, WHO, CDC, NIH, IHME, the Imperial College, Gilead, Fauci, Birx, Redfield, and many other so-called experts and organization etc. to whip up fear and panic while sabotaging HCQ. Not just fear-mongering and hysteria but the destruction of lives and economies for no good reason.
 

Nehemiah6

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Trump won. Cv5 is offering civics lessons for all of us morons thinking Biden won.
Actually it was indeed the morons on the Left who assumed that Biden had won.

The entire election was fraudulent, which means that there really should be a brand new election. It was purely moronic to believe the bogus numbers bandied about, but the media had no problem with this fraudulent scenario. They were co-conspirators who had conspired against Trump for four years, and could not wait to see the massive voter fraud succeed. BUT IT AIN'T OVER TILL ITS OVER.
 

cv5

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No one is denying the existence of the Wuhan virus. But sane people have arrived at the conclusion that the so-called Pandemic was a Scamdemic. And an objective analysis of everything regarding coronavirus by unbiased and objective experts in various fields will prove that this was indeed a scamdemic.

The sad fact is that absolutely no Western government at any level (municipal, state, provincial, or federal) has made the effort to set up a TOTALLY INDEPENDENT investigative commission to carefully examine everything that was said and published in this regard from January to November 2020. Every statement and every guideline needs to be carefully examined, since it was all fraudulent. Many studies have already shown that the lockdowns were TOTALLY WORTHLESS.

But the forensic investigation must also determine whether or not there was a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY involving China, WHO, CDC, NIH, IHME, the Imperial College, Gilead, Fauci, Birx, Redfield, and many other so-called experts and organization etc. to whip up fear and panic while sabotaging HCQ. Not just fear-mongering and hysteria but the destruction of lives and economies for no good reason.
There are trillion dollar lawsuits in the works right now buddy. The discovery process should prove interesting.
 

cv5

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here lately, yeah. :(

wow i shouldn't even be in this section anymore. i was here to talk to Christians and here i am uselessly getting mocked at by republicans instead :unsure:
I need to remind you my friend that I am definitely not Republican. I am Canadian. Though I do vote conservative every single time. I have no interest in the NDP commies or the Liberal lunatics.
 
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From what I’m hearing Trump’s lawyers are now fleeing the sinking ship. Reckon it’s not exactly a field day in court trying to convince the judge that the word of the Donald is solid evidence.
 

cv5

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From what I’m hearing Trump’s lawyers are now fleeing the sinking ship. Reckon it’s not exactly a field day in court trying to convince the judge that the word of the Donald is solid evidence.
They don't have to convince the judge. That is just a stalling tactic. They have to convince the state legislature. The legislature can REFUSE to accept any ballots they want. Without restriction or limitation.
 
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