PREVENIENT GRACE: AN ARMINIAN ERROR

If you resist or reject, it means you never received the gift of salvation by grace through faith.


Ephesians 2 (ESV)

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Romans 12 (ESV)

3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.

Yes not of your selfs meaning, not by works . We use this verse against those who are trying to work for their salvation . What a strange thing for Paul to be telling them . He's spent book after book telling the church salvation is by faith alone . That were justified by faith . That it was Abraham's own faith which was credited for righteousness. That it was after They trusted . After they believed. Only to say " oh but by the way you didn't believe really . God actually caused belief in those he saves . "

We don't "use" God's word. God's word speaks to us, and then we believe, if we were granted faith of salvation by God.

In the ESV ?

Kjv
3¶For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

In the ESV ?

Yes it's called God's word. We have respect for it.

Romans 12 (KJV)

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Yes it's called God's word. We have respect for it.


Romans 12 (KJV)

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

No verse says we are granted faith but rather .
The Promise Granted Through Faith
13 For the promise that he would be the heir of the world was not to Abraham or to his seed through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if those who are of the law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise made of no effect, 15 because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression.

16 Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be [a]sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all 17 (as it is written, “I have made you a father of many nations”) in the presence of Him whom he believed—God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did; 18 who, contrary to hope, in hope believed, so that he became the father of many nations, according to what was spoken, “So shall your descendants be.” 19 And not being weak in faith, he did not consider his own body, already dead (since he was about a hundred years old), and the deadness of Sarah’s womb. 20 He did not waver at the promise of God through unbelief, but was strengthened in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully convinced that what He had promised He was also able to perform. 22 And therefore “it was accounted to him for righteousness.”

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him, 24 but also for us. It shall be imputed to us who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification.

Brother, we need to be truthful in humbleness to the words of scripture. It is God that grants all of us our measure of faith, or lack thereof. He grants his merciful gift of salvation, by grace through faith for his good works, to whom He pleases, it is not of ourselves:


Romans 12 (KJV)

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.


Ephesians 2 (KJV)

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

ROMANS 4:2.
For if Abraham were justified by works, he has whereof to glory; but not before God. =
there are certainly different meanings concerning 'justification'.,.
JAMES 2:21.
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
and again, JAMES says that, 'Faith without works is dead',.., and indeed it IS,
'for even the devils believe and tremble'...

initial 'redemption' is a 'FREE-GIFT', we cannot earn it or work for it!!!
but,
'after we receive The Gift', our 'fruits bear witness', to whether we are truly
the 'servants of God, or the servants of satan'...
as it is written:
'To whom much is given, much is required'...
this is a personal journey/discernment, being able to acknowledge just 'how much we have been given'...
and thus, our witness will be within us for all to see and judge, accordingly...

Brother, we need to be truthful in humbleness to the words of scripture. It is God that grants all of us our measure of faith, or lack thereof. He grants his merciful gift of salvation, by grace through faith for his good works, to whom He pleases, it is not of ourselves:


Romans 12 (KJV)

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.


Ephesians 2 (KJV)

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Every man ?

There's a certain irony here . Were discussing Arminaism being defended by a Calvinist. Which proves that both systems are wrong for the same reason s . They both have bought into the idea of the T .

Thank you for your measured answer. We all have our view. I might have missed it, bit do you think that flesh and blood can reveal Jesus as the Son of God, or are each of us (believers) invested with this revelation from the Father?