The 10 Commandments

Do you think that all scripture telling us of ways to be great in the kingdom of heaven should be tossed out, for they don't save? In other words, you don't want the Lord to speak to you about anything that doesn't result in God repaying you with salvation.

Paul identifies the sabbath as a "shadow" along with food and drink, a festival or a new moon. (Colossians 2:16–17) The sabbath points to Christ and is fulfilled in him. The word for “shadow” that Paul uses to describe the sabbath is the same term the author of Hebrews used to describe Old Testament sacrifices. The law is only a "shadow" of the good things to come and not the very image of the things. (Hebrews 10:1)

I will absolutely get used to worshipping the Lord for all eternity, but I will not get used to clinging to Old Testament shadows when I have the fulfillment of these shadows, the substance, which is of Christ.

Shadows are not the body or substance.

This simply teaches that from month to month and from week to week, God’s people will worship Him. In the new heaven and new earth, we read there we will have no need of the sun or moon, there will be no night there, but one perpetual day and the glory of God will illuminate it. (Revelation 21:23-25). How then could there be a cycle of seven days that would allow for literally keeping the weekly sabbath day under the law? New moons require night, hence sabbatarians have night in heaven, yet there is no day and night cycles in heaven. You cannot have "new moon to new moon" or "sabbath days" without day and night, so your argument is moot. The Isaiah passage simply means that God’s people will perpetually worship Him in contrast to keeping the weekly sabbath day under the law.

Will there be Levitical priests in the new heaven? If Isaiah 66:23 teaches that we will be observing the weekly sabbath day and new moons in the new heaven and new earth, then it also teaches in Isaiah 66:21 that the Levitical priests will be in the new heaven, because it is also mentioned. What happened to the Levitical priesthood under the new covenant terms? Priesthood changed so did the law. Hebrews 7:12 - For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also. *The old and new covenants do not mix.”

I'm still waiting for a sabbatarian to explain to me exactly how they "keep the sabbath" today under the new covenant. What exactly does that entail? Worship only on Saturday? Don't work on Saturday?

What about all the rules and regulations that went along with keeping the sabbath in the Old Testament under the old covenant? (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) Disregard these commands or keep them too?

Why do you want to learn how people keep the Sabbath when you do not believe in keeping it? Your posts are aimed at being critical of people who believe God gave us a Sabbath for our benefit. If I told you of my walk it would only be setting myself up for you to malign me..

I am sure God will be so proud of you and tell you how awesome you were to be so righteous he must let you into heaven

james 2:18 Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? I will show you my faith by my good deeds.”

I've had numerous discussions with SDA's on multiple Christian forums over the years in regards to sabbath keeping and I already know what they teach in regards to Colossians 2:16-17, so spare me the rebuke.

I believe all the commands that I quoted from scripture in post #142 under the old covenant for Israel to keep the sabbath. I just don’t believe it’s binding on Christians under the new covenant. (Colossians 2:16-17)

How can keeping the sabbath day under the law benefit a New Testament believer? It looks like once again I have received no answer. Malign you? Like you did to me in post #106?

Why do you want to learn how people keep the Sabbath when you do not believe in keeping it? Your posts are aimed at being critical of people who believe God gave us a Sabbath for our benefit. If I told you of my walk it would only be setting myself up for you to malign me.

I think you have a mixed up idea of the rules and regulations given in stone with the ten commandments. We are never to disregard anything our holy God tells us, but to learn from it. What God gives us is always good, not to be drug through the dirt of fleshly minds. The good of the ten commandments is that they are ways to express love. The improved commandments is to obey the spirit of the law, and by doing that it is an improved way of obedience. It was possible to obey the letter of the law, under the old covenant, and disobey the spirit of the law. We have an improved and more accurate way of learning the law. But to condemn the Lord for giving us something like the ten commandments because there is an improved way of giving those commandments is something we should not do.

Nope.

JOHN 3 [12] If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? [13] And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, BUT HE THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, even the Son of man which is in heaven

COL. 2 [16] Let no man therefore judge you in MEAT, or in DRINK, or in respect of an HOLYDAY, or of the NEW MOON, or of the SABBATH DAYS:

The above scripture is used by the “many” to distance themselves from Gods sabbath day. Its also their biggy to eat their piggy. But what is Col.2{16} really talking about. Let scripture interpret scripture.

EZEKIEL 45 [17] And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and MEAT offerings, and DRINK offerings, in the FEASTS, and in the NEW MOONS, and in the SABBATHS, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.

Heres a scripture, same exact order as Col.2{16}, meat, drink, holy days (feast days), new moons, sabbaths. Talkin bout the same thing Mailman?

You still have not answered his question

Yep
those who are saved will have works

But works have no part in salvation (EPH 2 Titus 3 and many others )

You still have not answered his question

How can any of what the Lord tells us is a good way to live actually be a good way to live?

You speak of "under the law" as if there is a choice to listen and learn from the law and not listen to the law. That is, in no way, what it means. If you are under the law then you are saved by obeying the law, and this is not the way it is. But if you think that being under grace means to thumb you nose at God's laws you are sadly mistaken.

Keeping the Sabbath has nothing to do with our salvation, Paul even told us that some people believe every day is the same. every day is for the Lord. They live for the Lord just as those who believed that it is good to consider the Sabbath a day God made holy. But I can't see how anyone can say that following what God tells us to do is not a good thing that has benefits for us. The Sabbath is made for man. God does not need us to believe in it, and how we treat it is not for the day's benefit. Man isn't made to serve the Sabbath. But we can't say that following God has no benefits, it does.

Yes. God would not of made the 7th day had he not wanted it to be seen as holy.

Thanks, It Means So Much

You do not have to to use cause words to make your point!!- as a Christian

He wants us to be holy.