The 10 Commandments

@Blackpowderduelist are you a Christian?

Oh my G--

The only thing that is debatable out of the 10 commandments is the 4th commandment. The rest is moral law, even in our modern age... Unless you are an atheist or an idol worshipper then you might look at 6 or 7.

My keeping the Sabbath has got nothing to do with me "earning" my salvation. I am obedient to God and it is between me and Him. If I falter I don't repent to CC's members I discuss it with Abba Father Himself

JOHN 5 [44] How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? [45] Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. [46] For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. [47] But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

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the command “keep the sabbath”

explain that to us, explain what it means, what it encompasses. What it looks like?

if you can’t, your just another wanna be lawyer who thinks he is righteous because he thinks he obeys the commands,

oh and so, what was nailed? The penalty of the law was nailed. Because NO one but Christ had ever kept the law, thus all are seen as under sin, the penalty of sin is death,

Jesus also told us how to live under the new covenant, he told us to love God and love others and through paul told us to seek after the things of the spirit,

the law (commands included) were a schoolmaster, to convict us of sin and lead us to the redeemer, it was NEVER given as a means of sanctification, thus to try to use it in that way is to take it out of context, and the only way even possible is to water it down to a way you can actually achieve it like the jews did.

In no way is any of that a word against God. It kind of reflects what Thomas said when he saw Jesus. So in it's over use it could be using the title of the Lord in vain. But I don't see any blasphemy.

You seem stuck on a preconceived notion of what we’re talking about, if you were more honest with yourself you wouldn’t be that way and know that we’re not teaching works salvation.

The Sunday worshippers seem to have a log in their eyes, and that log makes them make all kind of false accusations.

When God established a Sabbath, it was to have both a literal and spiritual rest. We can rest in Christ for He takes care of all our sins, and we are told to also rest from our labors. So that is scripture, not to be used to accuse, judge, and blame.

JOHN 5 [44] How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? [45] Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. [46] For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. [47] But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Jesus was speaking to jewish men, all born under the Law, all claimed to be following Moses.

this conversation had nothing to do with gentiles keeping the Law of Moses and the Sabbath. which gentiles were and are not under the Law, never have been.

So you dont think Jesus came to fulfilled what was written of Him in the law but He came to start a different religion. I think not

MATT.5 [17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I AM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL. [18] For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

What does Jesus say? First he says he has not come to destroy the law. Then he goes on to say the law is intact until heaven and earth pass. Has the earth passed? I know for a fact im still standing on this earth. So...Lets use some common sense. Jesus did fulfil the law and the law is still to be followed. It was not nailed to the cross as the "many" claim. So what did Jesus mean when he said he came to fulfill the law?

LUKE 24 [44] And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that ALL THINGS MUST BE FULFILLED, WHICH WERE WRITTEN IN THE LAW of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, CONCERNING ME.

Yep

and moses wrote about the rules to keep the sabbath

will you please explain them to me?

Jesus did fulfill the law. Every jot and tittle

you have not, and can not, which is why Jesus had to come

1JOHN.5 [1] Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.[2] By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.[3] For this is the love of God, that WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: AND HIS COMMANDMENTS ARE NOT GRIEVOUS.

Not sure what Moses is thinkin but Johns pretty clear. Is Gods sabbath day {Gods 4th commandment} grievous to you? Sure does seem so.

MATT.5 [17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I AM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL. [18] For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Are you tryin to tell me the earth has passed?? Yikes! What am i standing on??

You right, it will not go away

as long as people, need to be led to Christ the schoolmaster will continue to be needed

if you need the law. I must question if you have been led to Christ, because you continue to place yourself under the schoolmaster

you should stop asking tough questions. and making Biblical sense. the Sabbatarians are struggling with this, since their theology is based on opinions...

GALATIANS 3 [23] But BEFORE FAITH CAME, WE WERE KEPT UNDER THE LAW, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. [24] WHEREFORE THE LAW WAS OUR SCHOOLMASTER TO BRING US UNTO CHRIST, THAT WE MIGHT BE JUSTIFIED BY FAITH. [25] But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. [26] For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus

Before faith came to each and everyone of us, we are under the law {the 10 commandments, the schoolmaster}. So, according to this scripture you are kept under the law of the 10 commandments (the schoolmaster) until you are justified by faith in Christ. No shortcuts. Then there is no condemnation. After we have been brought to faith in Christ, do we then make void the law or are we to still be keeping Gods law?

ROMANS 3 [30] Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. [31] DO WE THEN MAKE VOID THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: yea, we establish the law.

Just because we have attained faith through the Word are we now to “do away” with Gods 10 commandments? GOD FORBID!

GALATIANS 3 [23] But BEFORE FAITH CAME, WE WERE KEPT UNDER THE LAW, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. [24] WHEREFORE THE LAW WAS OUR SCHOOLMASTER TO BRING US UNTO CHRIST, THAT WE MIGHT BE JUSTIFIED BY FAITH. [25] But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. [26] For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus

Before faith came to each and everyone of us, we are under the law {the 10 commandments, the schoolmaster}. So, according to this scripture you are kept under the law of the 10 commandments (the schoolmaster) until you are justified by faith in Christ. No shortcuts. Then there is no condemnation. After we have been brought to faith in Christ, do we then make void the law or are we to still be keeping Gods law?

ROMANS 3 [30] Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. [31] DO WE THEN MAKE VOID THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: yea, we establish the law.

Just because we have attained faith through the Word are we now to “do away” with Gods 10 commandments? GOD FORBID!