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Roughsoul1991 said:
Yes, wasn't it a military raid a few weeks ago? Barely hit the media.
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Sidney Powell does not have possession of the servers. Yet. But you would have to think that they would have quietly shut it down instead of storm the facility if it wasn't done by antagonistic forces.

And I mean antagonistic forces to the bad guys meaning the good guys did it.

Seems more likely to me
 
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Dude653 said:
Unpopular opinion. I think the vaccine needs to be mandatory
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I don't think that's gonna happen Dude, we'll get herd immunity both ways, with the vaccine and without.

They still aren't sure how long immunity will last - Some tests showed immunity at six months in recovered Covid cases
 
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Dude653 said:
vaccines are pointless unless the majority of the population gets them. It's called herd immunity
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So getting a vaccine is pointless? That's what you're saying = it has no power to protect you.
 
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Magenta said:
So getting a vaccine is pointless? That's what you're saying = it has no power to protect you.
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Vaccines are not 100% effective so the fewer people vaccinated, the less effective the vaccine is on the overall population
It's called herd immunity. The majority of the population needs to be vaccinated
I swear scientific ignorance will be the death of us all
 
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Dude653 said:
Vaccines are not 100% effective so the fewer people vaccinated, the less effective the vaccine is on the overall population
It's called herd immunity. The majority of the population needs to be vaccinated
I swear scientific ignorance will be the death of us all
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I think Mag is saying there is no reason for YOU not to get the vaccine just because others don't.
 
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Dude653 said:
Vaccines are not 100% effective so the fewer people vaccinated, the less effective the vaccine is on the overall population
It's called herd immunity. The majority of the population needs to be vaccinated
I swear scientific ignorance will be the death of us all
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Right, you are the one saying vaccines are not effective since they do not protect you against the disease unless majority is vaccinated.
 
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He failed alright.... almost 200 000 cases yesterday in the USA
 
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Dude653 said:
vaccines are pointless unless the majority of the population gets them. It's called herd immunity
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Agree ...60 to 70 percentage needed ... either antibodies or the vaccine to reach herd immunity.
 
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Dude653 said:
vaccines are pointless unless the majority of the population gets them. It's called herd immunity
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Nope. The healthy get it and survive while the vulnerable get the vaccine. Still herd immunity is achieved without the vulnerable taking the risk.
 
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Magenta said:
Right, you are the one saying vaccines are not effective since they do not protect you against the disease unless majority is vaccinated.
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yeah again no vaccine is 100% effective so the fewer people vaccinated then the less effective the vaccine is overall
 
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FrankChatter said:
Bigger threat than wearing a mask? - bit like cutting your nose to spite your face.
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No bigger threat than covid. 200,000 deaths are nothing compared to the historical direction once religious freedom or 1st Amendment rights are taken away. Often it was with the promise of being temporary.
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
No bigger threat than covid. 200,000 deaths are nothing compared to the historical direction once religious freedom or 1st Amendment rights are taken away. Often it was with the promise of being temporary.
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It's not being taken away, restrictions are temporary till things get better.
 
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Roughsoul1991 said:
Nope. The healthy get it and survive while the vulnerable get the vaccine. Still herd immunity is achieved without the vulnerable taking the risk.
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Absolutely correct. Only the vulnerable need vaccines if they want them at all.

It is still perfectly legal to catch the flu and die. At this point in time anyway.
 
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Yeah maybe if more people would take the proper precautions including taking the vaccine when it becomes available we can finally get rid of this thing?
But it looks like that's not going to happen so we're probably stuck with covid forever
 
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FrankChatter said:
It's not being taken away, restrictions are temporary till things get better.
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Yes that is what happened in 1918, temporary restrictions and then thing became better.

And the Americans did the exact same thing back in 1918, refused to wear masks, refused to socially distance and the second wave was far worse than the first.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Yes that is what happened in 1918, temporary restrictions and then thing became better.

And the Americans did the exact same thing back in 1918, refused to wear masks, refused to socially distance and the second wave was far worse than the first.
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The rest of the world is recovering while it continues to grow like wildfire in America
 
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EleventhHour said:
Yes that is what happened in 1918, temporary restrictions and then thing became better.

And the Americans did the exact same thing back in 1918, refused to wear masks, refused to socially distance and the second wave was far worse than the first.
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Seems to me a case of paranoia looking for a cause, must be "satanic" yada yada.

I'm still waiting for my new world order - delivery man delayed due to covid :ROFL:
 
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FrankChatter said:
It's not being taken away, restrictions are temporary till things get better.
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So you can promise that? If you can not promise that, then, that is no gamble any American should want to take. Once you lose the liberty to tyrannical rule, it is nearly impossible to get back.
Why the hypocrisy then? It seems certain groups are being targeted while others get fewer restrictions. Have you not seen the hypocrisy?
 
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