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mailmandan

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What I said is even A COMMANDMENT, And these Scriptures SAY THE same thing, GOD love you And I do to,
But If we love sin, and want give it up, GOD says that he will send us strong delusions that we will believe A lie and be damned,
2 THESS 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2 THESS 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
[If you don't know that unrighteousness is sin,] 1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
EX. 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
1 JOHN 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 JOHN 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

And THE Prize that HE was after was eternal LIFE, and that is what he didn't want to lose, And that is saying what I said, Praise GOD,
Salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works and sinless perfection may be the SDA gospel, but it's not the gospel that is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16)
 

Rosemaryx

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Salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works and sinless perfection may be the SDA gospel, but it's not the gospel that is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16)
Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse!
...xox...
 

calibob

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Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse!
...xox...
Romans 1:16 & 17 BSB; "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, then to the Greek. 17For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish just as it is written": “The righteous will live by faith.”
 

Rosemaryx

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Romans 1:16 & 17 BSB; "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, then to the Greek. 17For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish just as it is written": “The righteous will live by faith.”
Amen and thank You Jesus...
...xox...
 

ForestGreenCook

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Salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works and sinless perfection may be the SDA gospel, but it's not the gospel that is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16)
Salvation=deliverance. There is an eternal deliverance, and there are many deliverances that we receive as we sojourn here in this world. Romans 1:16 is a deliverance we receive here in time.

When we are born again, we are quickened together with Christ, Eph 2:5. If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful, he cannot deny himself. 2 Tim 2:13. This would also prove OSAS.
 

Marcelo

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Salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works and sinless perfection may be the SDA gospel, but it's not the gospel that is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16)
  1. Salvation by grace plus law is totally wrong;
  2. Faith plus works is wrong if the intention is to obtain salvation throught works; Good works will flow naturally from a faithful believer.
  3. Salvation by sinless perfection is totally wrong. It is true that Jesus said "be perfect because my father is perfect", but this teaching was for the Jews before the crucifixion; when the Law was still in force. Some of Jesus' teachings are not for us and "be perfect" is one of them. We are not required to be perfect, but a minimum of holiness is necessary. Many christians think they can cheat on their spouses, but they are misguided. The ressurrected Jesus gave us a new gospel through Paul and other apostles and if we don't follow it we won't see Gods face (we will not be saved).
 

Magenta

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  1. Salvation by grace plus law is totally wrong;
  2. Faith plus works is wrong if the intention is to obtain salvation throught works; Good works will flow naturally from a faithful believer.
  3. Salvation by sinless perfection is totally wrong. It is true that Jesus said "be perfect because my father is perfect", but this teaching was for the Jews before the crucifixion; when the Law was still in force. Some of Jesus' teachings are not for us and "be perfect" is one of them. We are not required to be perfect, but a minimum of holiness is necessary. Many christians think they can cheat on their spouses, but they are misguided. The ressurrected Jesus gave us a new gospel through Paul and other apostles and if we don't follow it we won't see Gods face (we will not be saved).
Perfection in that sense means to be complete, as in, we find our all-in-all in Him :)

And hello! I hope you are well this fine day, Marcelo :)
 

Budman

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AND if THEY WILL NOT REPENT AGAIN, WITH YESUAH DRAWING TMEM, YES THEY WILL BE LOST .
WE HAFT TO GO TO YESUAH AND REPENT OF THOSE NEW SINS AND LET YESUAH COVER THOSE SINS TO, BUT most DOES not truly REPENT, TRYING TO HOLD ON TO SOME OF THEIR SINS, MEANING THAT THEY HAVE NOT REPENTED FULLY AND TRUTHFULLY AND they AND THE ones that FALL AND DON'T REPENT AND GET THE BOOD APPLIED TO THEIR NEW SINS WILL BE LOST
Jesus did not "cover" our sins, He took them all away. He became sin for us. We have no more sins attributed to us - there are none in our account. Jesus took them all, and exchanged them for His righteousness.

That's why salvation is always referred to as a "gift." A gift cannot be earned. You can't earn salvation by your works, nor can you retain salvation by your works. There is no reason to keep going back to get more forgiveness for sins. We already have complete forgiveness. All of our sins - past, present, and future - were paid for and forgiven at the cross.

For born again believers, the sin issue is finished. The price has been paid in full.
 

Marcelo

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Perfection in that sense means to be complete, as in, we find our all-in-all in Him :)

And hello! I hope you are well this fine day, Marcelo :)
Hello, Mag! Yes, I am well and working hard, mowing the lawn, trimming the hedges, growing vegetables, etc. :)