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Pilgrimshope

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On this site, there are many posters who ask a tremendous amount of turning the other cheek. Some of the name calling I have read would make the proverbial sailor blush.
yes but consider the words of the lord

“Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven:

for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The world has always persecuted Gods people insulted and left thier company , rejected them Christians are for certain without a doubt going to suffer insults

but is we can’t learn to handle that , we should look to what Jesus endured for us they spit in his face smacked and mocked him and he turned the other cheek
 

breno785au

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offense will be given, but it's not a cause to take offense. The whole turn the other cheek thing comes to mind. That is directive on how to deal with an actual offense.
I don't know how in the world some of these folks will survive an actual offense. When they can't take a sinner saying a bad word. Or a fellow Christian drinking a beer, or some one asking a sensitive question. Or dare I say a fellow Christian needing advice concerning their marital relations (by that I mean sex)
Glass of water equates to a basic need not placating weakness.
I will help a person walk who has a broken leg, I will hold an object for someone with a broken arm, I will open doors for folks burdened with arm loads of stuff. I will go to great lengths to help some one who needs it, but I refuse to placate snivelling whinging about petty stuff.
This is an example; a fellow got all offended after the release of the movie "Soul survivor" , because the main character wore a bikini on the beach. What an absurd notion to be offended that a surfer girl in California would wear a bikini on the beach.
It seems this is what happens when Christianity is reduced to behavioural modification. The expectation we have on ourselves, other brother and sisters and those who are not Christians will be absurdly high.
 

Pilgrimshope

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It seems this is what happens when Christianity is reduced to behavioural modification. The expectation we have on ourselves, other brother and sisters and those who are not Christians will be absurdly high.
on the other hand Gods standards and teachings are what they are and should be the expectations we set for ourself , so we can learn through grace and be saved

we should expect righteousness from ourselves and have mercy towards those who offend us that’s what grace is about

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-15‬ ‭

We shouldNt be afraid to realize we have some things to change in our actions and lives as we begin to learn what the lord said about salvation and repentance , he will always give us the strength we need once we will accept it in faith
 

breno785au

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on the other hand Gods standards and teachings are what they are and should be the expectations we set for ourself , so we can learn through grace and be saved

we should expect righteousness from ourselves and have mercy towards those who offend us that’s what grace is about

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-15‬ ‭

We shouldNt be afraid to realize we have some things to change in our actions and lives as we begin to learn what the lord said about salvation and repentance , he will always give us the strength we need once we will accept it in faith
Completely agree.
 

Blik

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It seems this is what happens when Christianity is reduced to behavioural modification. The expectation we have on ourselves, other brother and sisters and those who are not Christians will be absurdly high.
When Christians respond to the Lord within it is not Christianity reduced to behavior, it is Christians changing the world from a pagan world to a world of safety and kindness. History confirms this over and over. It is Christians walking with Christ in their hearts.

What happens to us is that we walk as forgiven of our sins, free and blessed.
 

breno785au

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When Christians respond to the Lord within it is not Christianity reduced to behavior, it is Christians changing the world from a pagan world to a world of safety and kindness. History confirms this over and over. It is Christians walking with Christ in their hearts.

What happens to us is that we walk as forgiven of our sins, free and blessed.
It is appears that I may not have been too clear in my comment.
Yes, a change in behaviour and character both immediately and over time is evidence of the Holy Spirit within us. That is PART of our walk with God. It is not the FOCUS of our walk.
Over the many years, I have seen many people discouraged and feeling a lack of 'measuring up' (including myself) because of the constant reminder of their apparent failures and the requirement to do better being taught in congregations. This can be both intentional and unintentially taught from behind the pulpit and obviously not occurring in EVERY congregation.
Our FOCUS is to be on Christ, it all flows from Him.
When Christianity is REDUCED to a behavioural modification program, what the OP is mentioning happens I believe.
“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me.
John 15:1‭-‬4
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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It seems this is what happens when Christianity is reduced to behavioural modification. The expectation we have on ourselves, other brother and sisters and those who are not Christians will be absurdly high.
Man that's a two edged sword.
 
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Why is it that so many Christians are so easily offended?
Are we surprised when a sinner sins?
Do we not have the prophecies that tell us that the world is only gonna get worse?
We are the strong, the ones with vision, with wisdom, and the knowledge of how this all plays out, but so many Christians are so up in their feelings over worldly material stuff, and the sins of sinners that don't know Christ. How are we the light? How are we to rescue the brother caught up in a sin, if we are to offended by his error to correct in compassion and understanding?
do some Christians want to be offended, or choose to be offended ?
 

soberxp

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I'm sorry if my advice offended any of you ─ I meant it for the best