Calvinists are preaching a false message .

Hello brother! It is always a pleasure. I believe that you are referring to Revelation 3:5:

"Like them, he who overcomes will be dressed in white. And I will never blot out his name from the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and His angels."

In the scripture above, Jesus is speaking to the church of Sardis and to all of those believers who would fall under the same rebuke of soiling their garments, which would be a reference to the indulging in the sinful nature and living in the world. Of those who have soiled their garments, if they repent they will also walk in pure white garments and Jesus will not blot out their names from the book of life. If they do not repent and remain soiled, then I believe that Jesus can and will blot out names.

Just to be clear about this matter, though I believe that it is by God's Sovereign election that people are saved and that before the world began, however, our salvation is still dependent upon our continuing in faith. As believers we can't just go back to living according to the sinful nature and still expect to inherit the kingdom of God. Faith is what connects us to God's grace. Like an electrical plug in a wall outlet, we must remain plugged in to God's grace. For we are saved by grace through faith. Regarding this, consider what James wrote:

"My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

My brothers = He is speaking to believers

wandering from the truth = one who was once in the truth, but has turned away from it

While in the wandered state = one is accumulating sin and is on their way to death

So, though God has chosen those whom He saved, they must continue in faith. Regarding whether or not names being blotted out as being predestined, I cannot answer. But I know that their calling was predetermined.

Most definitely! When Moses was speaking to the One in the burning bush, He asked who he should say to the Israelites "who me?" And the Lord said, "I AM who I AM." Tell them I AM has sent you. When speaking to the Pharisees and religious leaders, Jesus said to them "Before Abraham was, I AM" and they picked up stones to stone Him because He had used the title of God in reference to Moses speaking to Moses from the burning bush. Another example would be the following:

"Jesus said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord’? For he says:

‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand until I put Your enemies under Your feet.” ’

So if David calls Him ‘Lord,’ how can He be David’s son?”

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Jesus (prior to His appearing in the flesh) with the two angels, is the One who appeared to Abraham prior to destroying Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities.

Jesus said, "Abraham rejoiced to see My day. And he saw it and was glad." This would most definitely speak of Christ's existence prior to appearing as a human being.

Hello again!

I don't think it would make it mootish. And that because as I mentioned in the previous post, our part is still faith. Believers are not programmed robots. We still have free will and must endure the things in life that God allows that would attempt to knock us off of our stand in faith, whether it be financial, physical or other trials. We still need to take up our crosses daily, which means that we must take our stand in Christ regardless of what we encounter in life, even unto persecution and death.

God foreknew us and predestined us, wrote our names in His book. But we must continue in faith from beginning to end. The letters to the church demonstrate this in that, if the believer repents of the Lord's rebuke, regardless of which church and letter, does not repent, then the consequences that are mentioned will be applied. To use the same example, if they repent of whatever they are doing to soil their garments, then their names will not be blotted out. But if they do not repent and they die that unrepentant state, then the Lord can and will blot out their names. Otherwise, it would just be a needless warning.

God elected us for salvation before the world began, but we must endure in faith until the end of our lives or until the resurrection takes place.

And I would add that, the "all who should come to repentance" would be those whom God chose. We still have free will and must continue in faith. For as you well know, without faith (from first to last) it is impossible to please God.

Tell me, what do you make of these scriptures, brother?

"And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life belonging to the Lamb who was slain. - Revelation 13:8

"And those who dwell on the earth whose names were not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world will marvel when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet will be." - Revelation 17:8

Remember what Paul said regarding God's election: "So then, it does not depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy."

From my understanding, those whose names were not written in the book of life from before the world began, are those whom God did not elect to save throughout all of history. Throughout each generation, those whose names were written in the book from before the world began, when they hear the word of God, a switch is thrown, so-to-speak, and the Spirit confirms the truth with their spirit and they believe. This process will never happen with those whose names that were never written in the book of life from before the world began, because God did not elect them to be saved from the beginning.

Thank you. You are a scholar. From Abraham to Samuel to David in psalm 22 to Daniel and the AOD. To Jeremiah seeing a vision of the Third Reich till John the beloved saw with his own eyes the great Trib (Your favorite subject).

Scripture and prophesy has proven that time holds no bounds on Elohim, El_Shaddai, The great I am, Yahshua The Lion of Judah, The Christ the Holy Spirit the holy trinity or what ever name we call the one and only true Lord God by. Thats one of the things that separates the created from the Creator. The truth is beyond our imagination but everything he can imagine he can do any time. he can to tomorrow, yesterday or in a billion years in both directions. At the same time if he so chooses.

Then a person who has their name in gets blotted out ? why ?

Yes God chooses for purpose and service ,not to salvation. Jesus is elect for example . So is Israel .

However . Famously Calvinism is not known for taking verses in context. Its system is known for ' proof texting ' . Thats my point . The system comes first . Then with the bias the verses are then made to fit . I've rarely seen a calvintst use context as a argument. Just proof texts .

Each of these texts are taken out of context by some . Its nothing to do with the point your making. In fact its the exact opposite. These groups/ cults that ,what they do is ignore the context that theses verses are in . They cut them out of their setting and pair them up with another verse in another place ,so that they have a selection of ' proof texts ' that they put together to support there beliefs .

God can move in the heart of Pharaoh who ALREADY hardened his own heart first to work his purposes .

If a name is blotted out , what does that mean ? Doesn't that suggest perhaps that ALL names maybe in at birth and can be blotted out ? Moses asks to be blotted out . Is there more than one book . ' book of the living v the lambs book ? is there a difference?

This may help .

Those pesky Calvinists..they are always teaching that God saves everyone He intends to save

The idiotic Kevin Thompson has not helped anyone😟😟😟

They say God is in total control!

Where is that verse found?

Oh yes...Calvinists actually believe Peter was writing to the beloved

Those Calvinists actually believe G ou d saves all His lost sheep...imagine that.

Those Calvinists say accepting Jesus is not found in the bible.Which verses do you have that use that exact term accepting Jesus???