At what point would you as a Christian fight rather than turn the other cheek?

Okay now I understand - and that's all true what you said. I also read that the mask mandates are a beta-test. I walked into a store without a mask and two young women SCREAMED at me who worked there. I went into another store and a black woman went without a mask and she looked tough - no one said a word to her. So I ripped my mask off and no one said a word.

Throughout my years of reading Scripture I've wondered when to apply turn the other cheek, and when to pray imprecatory prayers, or even when it was appropriate to turn over the tables of the moneychangers.

If anyone has researched the New World Order they know that some dark days are ahead. What they have planned is martial law and taking everyones guns. Throughout history whenever a tyrant wanted to take over they would disarm the people first so they couldn't fight back.

If anyone has read about the Christian Armenian genocide you see what is done to Christians. At what point do you think that you should fight back rather than turn the other cheek?

Some of these posts really get me to wondering about the possibility of anti-christian shills pushing a really soft and feminine version of "christianity" in order to slowly subvert and destroy it. I am immediately suspicious of people like @MattforJesus.

The original post was talking about genocide, and now we've got these completely ridiculous posts about how it's a sin to resist. It's completely absurd. If was a satanic globalist and it was my goal to kill off a bunch of whites, nationalists, and Christians, then the following three things would be what my propaganda guys would be doing:

1. I'd push white guilt in arts, entertainment and law. Make it socially unacceptable for white people to stick up for other white people.
2. I'd tell everyone that nationalism is bad because nazi's. Promote globalism as the solution to poverty, etc.
3. I'd infiltrate Christian seminaries, churches, and websites to promote a weak "christianity" that won't defend Christendom.

Doing these would disarm my opponents and reduce their propensity to cause me any problems.

Its not instruction for the body ,the church. But rather its a kingdom instruction ..You would turn the other cheek with Jesus on the throne.

What kind of [scene] do you think it was when Yeshua started screaming and yelling at the "Merchants" while shoving and pushing over their tables that were set up for their business in the physical Temple of God? While Christ was still alive, so was [Daily Sacrifice] in the Temple offered to their Elohim. And Merchants set up shop along the Temple steps and corridors. Watching Yeshua [go off] on them must've been a real cheek turner..

Honestly I wish I could say I have been doing good the spiritual attacks and storms have been so very intense devistatingly so I honestly sometimes reach the point when I just wish I could give up and stay down but sadly I always instinctively get back up
But there is a saying that there is a time and place for everything the holy spirit is the key to knowing this when I am confronted in such a situation like that which is very rarely he always seemes to take over there are times when I will stand up to a person twice my size to protect someone and other times I will turn the cheek
I always say how important it is to havre a very close and intimate relationship with God because in this we learn to know and act upon his voice as if by instinct

There is also the fact that different situation require different solutions sometimes he calls us to be his defenders and warriors other times he wants to fight for us personally though I don't think it wise to either be the fighter all the time or turn the cheek all the time rather it is more about what the spirit saays to do and to act on it

I did not say I would not fight back or save someone only pointing out scriptures, but I will repent if I do fight back or hurt someone.

Nothing can happen unless God allows it so if they are persecuted, or tortured, then God is allowing it and Paul said the Lord delivered him from distress, persecution, and death.

So there must be a reason that they are having afflictions and if God does not stop it then He allows it so who are we to stop it and go against God who allows it.

They could not touch Jesus until the time came for Him to give His body, and He always escaped them which is the same promise to all saints.

Jesus never fought to save His life or the life of anyone else and He is our example, and concerning the people in the temple when Jesus overthrew the tables the cords were to chase out the animals not hit the people.

We might have persecution, and death, and the Lord might allow it, and He might deliver us from it, but we are to allow God to handle the situation which He says do not avenge yourselves but He will repay.

Luk 12:4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
Luk 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Psa 116:15 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.

Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Jas 5:5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.
Jas 5:6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

When the world attacks the Christian they are not to fight back for however they fight back it will come back on them.

2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
2Ti 4:6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

If a Christian cannot defend them self but must endure afflictions and not fight back even when facing death for they are to be different from the world that fights then how can they save someone else and physically hurt the attacker.

We cannot save our self if physically abused because we cannot hurt anyone so how can we save someone else and hurt someone for we are a person like them.

God does not want us to hurt anyone regardless of how they act and He will take care of the situation in judgment if they do not repent.

But many will fight and fail but they can repent.

The Bible says all that will live godly will suffer persecution for being a Christian and that persecution can come in different ways but they have to endure it.

Rom 12:17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

It's a difficult concept.

That is an interesting question. Here in Victoria in Australia we are facing just that scenario as the governmemnt has passed a Bill making it it illegal for parents to pray for their children if they ask for help with a confusion with their sexuality. If you do pray for them you can go to jail for 10 years.

The government has made it clear in the Bill that if someone is a homosexual you are not allowed to help them if they don't want to be. In other words, it is against the law not to be a homosexual.

Needless to say already, there are groups already fighting the Bill and intending to keep doing so if it becomes law, which it will. There will be only one loser in this and it is the government. They will have to withdraw the law or revise and amend it if they want to live peaceable as the opposition is not going to go away.

As one commentator has said the law is a full frontal attack on Christianity.

With Jesus ruling on the throne ( had they accepted their messiah ) Perfect justice would reign. You wouldn't need to defend ect . But Today this would not be advisable as people would slap you on both sides and probably slit your throat and steal all your possessions regardless.The letters to the Church are our instructions for today .

That's the truth - people would run you into the ground if they could. Still don't understand what you mean about letters to the church are our instruction for today. Christ taught pacifism basically with the turn the other cheek verse.

That's the truth - people would run you into the ground if they could. Still don't understand what you mean about letters to the church are our instruction for today. Christ taught pacifism basically with the turn the other cheek verse.

That's the truth - people would run you into the ground if they could. Still don't understand what you mean about letters to the church are our instruction for today. Christ taught pacifism basically with the turn the other cheek verse.

LOL! They didn't say anything to her because they were scared of being called a racist! HAHAHA!! Pathetic virtue-signalling weaklings. Don't worry about them.

Im not sure he taught ' pacifism ' strictly. But rather his justice would prevail . Notice also in Acts the jews sold all their possession ect . This also makes sense if Jesus ruled at that point. If the rulers had accepted their messiah ,the kingdom reign would have begun .

So how do you reconcile that with the turn the other cheek verses? Different applications at different times?