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Acts 11 .
15And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16Then remembered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
THIS IS TEN YEARS AFTER ACTS 2. Yeah sure they are fulfilling the great commission all the while . NO you would have to be ideologically possessed to see gentiles being preached to prior to Cornelius.
15And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
16Then remembered !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
17Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
THIS IS TEN YEARS AFTER ACTS 2. Yeah sure they are fulfilling the great commission all the while . NO you would have to be ideologically possessed to see gentiles being preached to prior to Cornelius.
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No, here's a clue for you, which, of course, you'll willfully ignore:
All of the earliest believers in Christ, including Abraham, WERE GENTILES.
In fact, and this is a fact even if you fall off of your chair while reading it, there was no such thing as an Israelite upon the face of this earth until God changed Jacob's name to "Israel", and there were no tribes of Israel until the time came that Jacob/Israel had twelve sons.
Furthermore (if you're not hyperventilating by now), there was no such thing as a Jew upon the face of this earth until the time came that Jacob/Israel had his 4th son, Judah, which is where we derive the word "Jew" from.
Further still (if the paramedics haven't yet arrived), if you add up the genealogies that we're given in the Bible, then you will recognize that there were more than 2,200 years from the time of Adam until the time that the nation of Israel actually came into existence.
My point?
That everyone who existed upon the face of the earth during the aforementioned more than 2,200 years from Adam to the nation of Israel's forming was A GENTILE.
Yes, Abel, who was saved by faith, was A GENTILE.
Enoch, whose faith we also read about, was A GENTILE.
Noah, whose faith we also read about, was A GENTILE.
And last, but certainly not least, Abraham was A GENTILE.
Yes, he died before God changed Jacob's name to Israel, and before the nation of Israel came into existence.
My point?
That YOU apparently have absolutely no clue whatsoever in relation to what this whole Jew/Gentile thing is really all about.
Anyhow, that was just an aside...
All of the earliest believers in Christ, including Abraham, WERE GENTILES.
In fact, and this is a fact even if you fall off of your chair while reading it, there was no such thing as an Israelite upon the face of this earth until God changed Jacob's name to "Israel", and there were no tribes of Israel until the time came that Jacob/Israel had twelve sons.
Furthermore (if you're not hyperventilating by now), there was no such thing as a Jew upon the face of this earth until the time came that Jacob/Israel had his 4th son, Judah, which is where we derive the word "Jew" from.
Further still (if the paramedics haven't yet arrived), if you add up the genealogies that we're given in the Bible, then you will recognize that there were more than 2,200 years from the time of Adam until the time that the nation of Israel actually came into existence.
My point?
That everyone who existed upon the face of the earth during the aforementioned more than 2,200 years from Adam to the nation of Israel's forming was A GENTILE.
Yes, Abel, who was saved by faith, was A GENTILE.
Enoch, whose faith we also read about, was A GENTILE.
Noah, whose faith we also read about, was A GENTILE.
And last, but certainly not least, Abraham was A GENTILE.
Yes, he died before God changed Jacob's name to Israel, and before the nation of Israel came into existence.
My point?
That YOU apparently have absolutely no clue whatsoever in relation to what this whole Jew/Gentile thing is really all about.
Anyhow, that was just an aside...
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Hey, you finally admitted that they were fulfilling "The Great Commission" which had been given by Jesus many years prior to this.
Good for you.
Perhaps there's hope for you yet.
Now, after you've stopped hyperventilating, feel free to quote where I ever said that THE DISCIPLES were preaching to Gentiles prior to this.
Go ahead...I'll wait.
Despite your latest outburst, what I've actually been saying all along is that JESUS regularly ministered to and preached to BOTH Israelites AND GENTILES ALIKE (and he did), and that he ultimately commissioned his disciples to do exactly the same (and he did, and they did).
Seriously, you need to calm down.
I'm guilty of nothing but telling you the truth.
You, on the other hand, have been REGULARLY LYING TO PEOPLE HERE while insisting that Jesus' recorded words in the gospel accounts were only meant for Israelites or Jews, and I could very easily quote you on that.
In other words, you're the one who is at fault here.
What remains to be seen is whether or not you'll repent and publicly admit your error.
Time will tell.
Good for you.
Perhaps there's hope for you yet.
Now, after you've stopped hyperventilating, feel free to quote where I ever said that THE DISCIPLES were preaching to Gentiles prior to this.
Go ahead...I'll wait.
Despite your latest outburst, what I've actually been saying all along is that JESUS regularly ministered to and preached to BOTH Israelites AND GENTILES ALIKE (and he did), and that he ultimately commissioned his disciples to do exactly the same (and he did, and they did).
Seriously, you need to calm down.
I'm guilty of nothing but telling you the truth.
You, on the other hand, have been REGULARLY LYING TO PEOPLE HERE while insisting that Jesus' recorded words in the gospel accounts were only meant for Israelites or Jews, and I could very easily quote you on that.
In other words, you're the one who is at fault here.
What remains to be seen is whether or not you'll repent and publicly admit your error.
Time will tell.
Fullfilling no they were not . please show where they are 'fulfilling 'what Jesus said ( yet ) . Especially in light of Peter not having a clue until Cornelius. Why are they surprised by a gentile getting saved as they ? Why did Peter need the vision if he'd been preaching to the gentiles all a long ? No transitions needed taking place first . Then we get an apostle TO THE GENTILES . I'm a gentile, I have no fight in this other than what the scriptures actually say .
Is that supposed to be a threat ?
Yeah thanks for the threat of hell . Nice. How about showing from scripture rather than knee jerk accusations. I said there are exceptions prior to Acts . I have posted all the scriptures where Jesus prior to his death and resurrection told them he had ONLY been sent to ISRAEL . And commanded the diciples ONLY to go to Jews . Aside from JESUS breaking from his programmatic ministry TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL , where like the cannanite women persisted and declared ' even the dogs eat the crumbs from the CHILDRENS table ' This shows even this amazing women understood the programme more than the majority of Christians today . She knew that Israel were the Children and gentiles were the ' dogs '
22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23¶But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24¶But he answered and said, I am NOT SENT but unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL !!!!!!!
25¶Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26¶But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to DOGS . ( Gentle Jesus meek and mild )
27¶And she said, TRUTH !!!!!LORD !!!!!: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28¶Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
Yeah thanks for the threat of hell . Nice. How about showing from scripture rather than knee jerk accusations. I said there are exceptions prior to Acts . I have posted all the scriptures where Jesus prior to his death and resurrection told them he had ONLY been sent to ISRAEL . And commanded the diciples ONLY to go to Jews . Aside from JESUS breaking from his programmatic ministry TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL , where like the cannanite women persisted and declared ' even the dogs eat the crumbs from the CHILDRENS table ' This shows even this amazing women understood the programme more than the majority of Christians today . She knew that Israel were the Children and gentiles were the ' dogs '
22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23¶But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24¶But he answered and said, I am NOT SENT but unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL !!!!!!!
25¶Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26¶But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to DOGS . ( Gentle Jesus meek and mild )
27¶And she said, TRUTH !!!!!LORD !!!!!: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28¶Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
Jesus own words which are yet to be addressed. So in stead of casting Christians and accusing someone being unsaved ,first check the scriptures.
26¶But he answered and said, It is NOT meet to take the CHILDRENS BREAD , and to cast it to DOGS . ( Gentle Jesus meek and mild )
27¶And she said, TRUTH !!!!!LORD !!!!!: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
WHOS BREAD ?? ISRAEL S BREAD . NOT MEET TO TAKE IT TO THE DOGS .
Its not about what i think its about what Jesus said.
26¶But he answered and said, It is NOT meet to take the CHILDRENS BREAD , and to cast it to DOGS . ( Gentle Jesus meek and mild )
27¶And she said, TRUTH !!!!!LORD !!!!!: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
WHOS BREAD ?? ISRAEL S BREAD . NOT MEET TO TAKE IT TO THE DOGS .
Its not about what i think its about what Jesus said.
How can a person who is preaching GOD's word be weak at all? If parents in this earth can raise a baby who is wholly dependent on his parents, but at a certain point, starts to gain his individuality, and is not so reliant on his parents, to the point where the child is now a man, can move out and start his own family and raise children of his own, how much more the GOD of creation can raise a strong man?
All you did was quote the ' great commission ' which comes after the point I was making ( After his resurrection) Then you cannot show any diciples going to gentiles nor explain why the diciples are shocked by Cornelius. Or this verse .
Acts 11
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the JEWS ONLY .
Acts2 . 38 ? not a gentile in sight .
please explain ?
Acts 11
19¶Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the JEWS ONLY .
Acts2 . 38 ? not a gentile in sight .
please explain ?
' inviting Jesus into our heart 'is not a bible verse . As a believer i understand the gospel we should preach today and not any other .
I believed...1 cor 15 1-4 and
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
I will not stand before the judgment seat . Not because I'm on here virtue signalling or the good deeds I've done but :
Titus 3:5
“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;”
I believed...1 cor 15 1-4 and
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
I will not stand before the judgment seat . Not because I'm on here virtue signalling or the good deeds I've done but :
Titus 3:5
“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;”