Why do we call the Father, the Creator ..when the Son should have that title also?

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭

The Holy Ghost is in believers and it came from God in heaven through christs ascension as he promised when we read about Jesus being seated in heaven it’s because of this

“This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:32-33‬ ‭KJV‬‬


What promise he’s talking about is this

“But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?

But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart. Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭16:5-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Holy Ghost came from the same place Jesus did from heaven

Okay, but does the Holy Spirit only have one role? Could becoming the Comforter be a new offer of something preexisting?

Can Love(quantum) and Power(energy) make matter?

You are definitely on the right Path. Keep going! Do all things with sincerity and you will do well.

How about a preexisting network for the Holy Spirit to traverse? In Quantum Mechanics it is called all possible paths. It is basically the Electromagnetic vector field ..what Light uses to propagate. I think this networks is directly tied to omnipresence.

I really appreciate the encouragement brother and would sure echoe it back to you I think the lord is capable of leading us home and we need just keep truckin in him God bless and thanks so much for the conversation it has made my spirit happy

brother i Mean no offense whatsoever but I can’t follow any of those words lol haha I’m not that intellectual so as to grasp even an iota of quantum anything or anything regarding physics .

so I’m sure you are onto something in your understanding but I just have to be honest I can’t understand anything of that question , not your fault , I’m just not that bright when it comes to scientific theory or any of the lingo

if quantum physics or anything depended on me grasping it , physics wouldn’t be a thing lol

Why do we assume the Holy Spirit only has one role to play?

The Gospel isn't difficult, and that is what is important that we know.

My friend, if you would memorize the below seven Perfect verses, you will discover the Core of the Bible. Read as many translations as you would like; nearly all of them are incredible (except that from "The Message - throw that Bible away). By knowing Colossiansj 2:9-15, the entire Bible will come alive, for if it were not for the Spiritual Circumcision of Christ, no Bible would need to be written; no earth would need to be created; no human (nor animal) would have needed to die.

This is what all believers MUST know. There are no more important seven verses to know and thoroughly understand than those of Colossians 2:9-15. Taking you all the way back to Genesis 3:22-24, Jesus on the Cross and His Spiritual Circumcision will, as said, make the entire Bible come alive and it will finally begin to make True sense. There is a story to the complete Bible, and the Spiritual Circumcision of Christ is at the Core of it. It is this Spiritual Circumcision that is the reason for which Abraham is our "Father of Faith," for his Heart was Circumcised by Christ so as enabled to be exactly as God would need him to be.

If you heed this advice . . . I promise you, you will be utterly thankful beyond imagination.

I respect you and am in your service.

2TG

um what’s quantum mean ? That’s where I’m at lol

the Holy Ghost sure has other roles the source of all things , light , hope , peace , true godly love , forgiveness mercy and truth he came for the purposes the gospel expresses to us and to know what the Holy Ghost is saying we need to listen to him because the Holy Ghost preached the gospel

“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

do you notice the father son and Holy Ghost were present at Jesus baptism ? The Father spoke from heaven the Holy Ghost descended onto the son


Jesus is the presence of all three aspects of God it recurs over and over again like that In scripture what I mean by the Holy Ghost preached the gospel is Jesus began preaching the gospel after he received the Holy Ghost .


“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

he was constantly telling them things like this as he taught them the gospel

“I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We saw the Holy Ghost sent from heaven to Christ

“For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we saw the holy ghost come down from heaven and light on him

“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”
‭‭John‬ ‭7:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Holy Spirit preached the gospel through Christ

I’m sorry bro I know you weren’t looking for this answer but I’m not sure what quantum physics is about

he doesn’t , he’s God he has many roles

I look at it like this: Jesus died for every sin ever. You get baptized and open the door to Christ. Christ then looks at all the sins He died for and removes the ones you were involved with. Then it becomes how you lived your life afterwards.

I'm in this to wake the unbelievers. I think Science will do it.

"the source of all things", expand on this!! This wouldn't entail The Holy Spirit being everything ..would it?

"light " ..well, I mentioned light in my physics

Doesn't omnipresence sound like something the Holy Spirit would handle? A part of Him to report to God the Father who in another dimension?

Not so.

You sure though ?

“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭19:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It seems so to me , but I’m okay if you don’t agree God bless

Is there something to the Holy Spirit being a Ghost in the virtual side of reality?

The Ghost has the option to be everywhere at the same time if the Spirit wants. That's what all possible paths of the Electromagnetic vector field are about.

im not following “the virtual side of reality part “there’s just heaven which we can’t yet see and there is earth which is everything we see .


“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Those are the only two realms in existence heaven has higher parts but it’s all the heavenly realm. And then there is earth which was given to man in the very beginning

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's:

but the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭115:

the earth is on this state because of satans presence in the world

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

(but we have the gospel the light to believe)

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭

the idea is heaven and earth were one creation and man followed satans will and caused a division between heaven and earth one kingdom now divided because man being the stewards and rulers over earth under God , followed Satan instead.

this is the reason we need Christ to bring back all things into one in heaven and earth

“Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation:

in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1:9-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is reconciling heaven and earth to be in unison again. Because of the war and division man caused when we followed the deception and broke faith with God way back in the beginning Christ came to undo what Satan caused

“He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.

For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If you think back all Satan did was deceive them to believe something contrary to Gods word which brought the conflict of good and evil . Jesus is repairing it through teaching us the truth that destroys satans deception and brings us righteousness rather than sin as Satan brought us to

there’s just heaven where the kingdom is established in the unseen but we know and believe because Gods word says it . And there is earth which doesn’t take faith to see or touch because it’s all created and manifest to the flesh

faith is about what God said that we can’t see but we believe it because he said it . The unseen places can be known in part of we believe what he said about heaven

we need to walk by faith of the unseen and not walk by the sight of the things we see so when we think of the Chirch we should have our eyes turned up to heaven

“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we should think of the church here

“But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven,

and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:22-25, 28‬ ‭

Faith turns our eyes to things we can’t see but he spoke so it becomes a dire belief and we walk after those things he spokenforth in promise


“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

see it’s hard for us naturally to grasp that but it’s because it’s not a natural thing he said it’s only through belief it becomes tangible . So what we do is operate by faith and faith comes from his word

He is reconciling creation because we followed Satan and divided and ruined the earth so he’s going to make it all new in the end we will have harmony again in heaven and on earth between God the father and mankind his children





there’s evidence but it’s in Gods word and needs belief and isn’t provable scientifically it’s faith based upon what he said

2 Corinthians 4:18
For the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Waves are not seen. There is an entire side to our reality that is virtual ..unseen.

Please tell me more about this "the source of all things" for the Holy Ghost.

ohhh ok now I’m grasping the lingo ! Thanks for bearing with me

the Holy Spirit ? I think for me that thought comes from the Bible

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

then of course he speaks the word of creation . So you have father God , his spirit and the word even in the first paragraph the spirit I believe to be the beginning and end the father of lights the source of everything is the spirit the beginning before the form of things came there was the spirit of God