The gospel of the kingdom, the everlasting gospel, gospel of Christ, etc.

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I wanted to get some feedback on:

Are these all basically referring to the same gospel: gospel of the kingdom, the everlasting gospel, the gospel of Christ, the gospel of God, gospel of the grace of God, the gospel of peace, the gospel of the uncircumcision, and where the term gospel seems to be used generically.

Bonus question: is the gospel that is "preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations" in Matthew 24:14 a reference to the great commission (Matt. 28:19-20) or is it a reference to the angel who preaches the everlasting gospel to all the nations mentioned in Revelation 14:6-7?

Underlines added by me.
Bible used: KJV
Matthew 24:14
14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Mark 1:1
1The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Acts 14:7
7And there they preached the gospel.

Acts 20:24
24But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Romans 1:1
1Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Romans 10:15
15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Galatians 2:7
7But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

Revelation 14:6-7
6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
 
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difference between 2 gospels Source March 2021 Berean spotlight magazine.jpg
This pic sums up the difference between the 2 main ones in the NT.
 

tribesman

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I wanted to get some feedback on:

Are these all basically referring to the same gospel: gospel of the kingdom, the everlasting gospel, the gospel of Christ, the gospel of God, gospel of the grace of God, the gospel of peace, the gospel of the uncircumcision, and where the term gospel seems to be used generically.
Yes. Basically and principally same gospel all of it. Just as "the gospels" of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all are the same gospel. Do not let anyone deceive you with teaching otherwise. Just stay with these plain scriptures.
 

Nehemiah6

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Are these all basically referring to the same gospel: gospel of the kingdom, the everlasting gospel, the gospel of Christ, the gospel of God, gospel of the grace of God, the gospel of peace, the gospel of the uncircumcision, and where the term gospel seems to be used generically.
There is only one Gospel, but it has been given several designations. Just as there is only one Christ, but He has numerous names and titles. The Gospel is the Good News that the Lord Jesus Christ is both the Salvation and the Savior of all mankind. Those who believe the Gospel enter into the Kingdom of God.
 

Naomi123

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Agreed..the Gospel is One....it is Gods call to His children to show them the path to salvation..
there is an invisible thread from Genesis to revelation....the beautiful wisdom of God
 
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Those two groups need to be properly understood and reconciled. There is only one Gospel.
If you start with the axiom that "There is only one gospel", then yes, there are ways to force all these to say the same thing.
 

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Those two groups need to be properly understood and reconciled. There is only one Gospel.
I agree, there is only one gospel and it is the theme of the entire scripture from Genesis to Revelation. It is that God gave blood on the altar for the atonement of our souls, and it is all fulfilled in Christ.

Sin was not part of the garden of Eden. As soon as it entered, it spelled death for humans. The gospel is the way God gives us so we are forgiven our sins and avoid death.

Scripture gives lots of information about how God has worked in our world, or about how we are to live as a saved person. But the gospel is that we are forgiven and saved through Christ.
 

throughfaith

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This is where the rubber meets the road. For those that say " its all the same " may as well quit reading the bible and just stick to their favourite sermons on line . The bible cannot be understood if all the time the word ' Gospel ' is used ,its just the same . I find this response so silly in light of who is the ultimate author of Scripture, who is not arbitrary or unable to communicate clearly things different are not the same.
 

throughfaith

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Yes. Basically and principally same gospel all of it. Just as "the gospels" of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John all are the same gospel. Do not let anyone deceive you with teaching otherwise. Just stay with these plain scriptures.
Same as what ? I never here what this ' same ' Gospel is ? Why is no one giving the answer as to what this one Gospel is . After all we need to know so that we don't preach the wrong one .What's the ' One ' ?
 

throughfaith

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I agree, there is only one gospel and it is the theme of the entire scripture from Genesis to Revelation. It is that God gave blood on the altar for the atonement of our souls, and it is all fulfilled in Christ.

Sin was not part of the garden of Eden. As soon as it entered, it spelled death for humans. The gospel is the way God gives us so we are forgiven our sins and avoid death.

Scripture gives lots of information about how God has worked in our world, or about how we are to live as a saved person. But the gospel is that we are forgiven and saved through Christ.
Then this is the one Gospel then. As you have written ? So if it deviates from this good news its not the Gospel? " That we are forgiven and saved through christ " ?
Ok, how? and what do I do to appropriate it ? Or are people Just born into it ?
 

Naomi123

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if you read Stephens last words as he was being stoned to death...it sums up everything
acts....read 6...7

49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
 
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if you read Stephens last words as he was being stoned to death...it sums up everything
acts....read 6...7

49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
Yes, notice in the words of Stephen in vs52, Jesus's death on the cross was a murder indictment? whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

Stephen was certainly not telling them that "Christ died on the cross for their sins and rose again for their justification." (1 Cor 15:1-4)

In the gospel of the kingdom, the cross is bad news for Israel, a murder indictment, they needed to repent for killing their Messiah, as Peter said in Acts 2:36

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
 

Naomi123

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Yes, notice in the words of Stephen in vs52, Jesus's death on the cross was a murder indictment? whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

Stephen was certainly not telling them that "Christ died on the cross for their sins and rose again for their justification." (1 Cor 15:1-4)

In the gospel of the kingdom, the cross is bad news for Israel, a murder indictment, they needed to repent for killing their Messiah, as Peter said in Acts 2:36

Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
It’s a serious matter....at the same time Gods divine plan....
 
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It’s a serious matter....at the same time Gods divine plan....
Yes, so as my picture showed, the Cross was presented as a historical fact.

What the gospel of the kingdom required hearers to do is to believe in the identity of Christ, to believe that Jesus was indeed the Son of God, that was prophesied since the OT.

This was how Peter concluded his first sermon at Pentecost in Acts 2:36.

It did not require hearers to believe that Christ died for their sins and rose again on the 3rd day for their justification.
 

Naomi123

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The Lord said be doers of the word..as below and also...Christ said..do not call me lord lord and do not do as I say....
James...

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
 
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The Lord said be doers of the word..as below and also...Christ said..do not call me lord lord and do not do as I say....
James...

20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
Yes you are correct, the gospel of the kingdom requires faith together with works, in order to be justified.
 

Naomi123

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Yes...remember many will try to hinder your path but you must be strong...
see below what the lord says

50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;
51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.
52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.
53 And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things:
54 Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.
 

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There is only one Gospel, but it has been given several designations. Just as there is only one Christ, but He has numerous names and titles. The Gospel is the Good News that the Lord Jesus Christ is both the Salvation and the Savior of all mankind. Those who believe the Gospel enter into the Kingdom of God.
Not quite. We can't even see the Kingdom of God unless we are born again. Those who refuse to carry their cross and deny themselves may well be saved, but they are not active in the Kingdom of God. Some Christians fail to appreciate that entry to the Kingdom of God is through tribulation. Sitting on the sidelines observing is not enough. No one hands out prizes to spectators.
 

Nehemiah6

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Some Christians fail to appreciate that entry to the Kingdom of God is through tribulation.
I believe you have misunderstood what Paul said about entering the Kingdom of God through much tribulation. He was not making tribulation a condition for entry, since eternal life is a free gift of God, and so is the New Birth (which gives entry into the Kingdom). What Paul meant is that Christians will not have an easy time on earth before they enter the eternal Kingdom of God. And the persecution and martyrdom of Christians has been a fact of life since 30 AD. But God regards all His saints as a Royal Priesthood already. See 1 Peter.