False teaching/false gospels/heresies and MENTAL ILLNESS - is there a connection?

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tribesman

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I deliberately posted that portion of scripture without any commentary of my own.

Now, I'll just add that whether it was demonic in nature or just an illness, Jesus delivered and/or healed them all.

P.S.

I always find it interesting when people claim that we're more knowledgeable today than people of old were.

Seems to me that they actually set people free...in contrast to those who are allegedly superior in knowledge today.

Just saying.
Yes! You are making an extremely important point here. Science, medical doctors, academics, meds, social workers, cops...what have we of today...can't wholly solve the problem. But He can.
 
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I have never disagreed the Bible is the best source for everything.

What I disagree with is the use of the archaic KJV translating to the medical level people had 400 years ago, rather than today. If I had lived in King James time, I would have died of a baby of pneumonia. I would have died in childbirth 3 times, and I would certainly be dead from asthma and Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Further, self control or discipline is something we develop with the Holy Spirit leading us. It is voluntary, and it is possible to change. God has made a huge difference in my life, teaching me self control. This is a real positive!

Having a sound mind, if it refers to the opposite which is mental illness, is not voluntary, biblical or good. It is a disease which attacks the mind. Jesus did cure many, and today in our society, Modern medicine really helps those suffering from this disease.

So no! "A sound mind" and "self control" are not the same. The second is a fruit of the Spirit, the first is the opposite of mental illness. "Self control" is part of our character, a "sound mind" is something that takes place within the physical body or the brain.
Your position is one dimensional.

To attest so adamently that we are not promised a sound mind.

That word you pointed out, was used by josephas as a "sober mind"

It CAN BE translated " disciplined, self control, or sound mind"
 
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if i do not have a sound mind i am most likely going to be erratic and undisciplined.

Iow...undisciplined and no self control are spokes coming from their hub.

Its all good. Power, love , sound mind, self control, discipline.

No need to jettison "sound mind".

It is truly there for a reason.
 

tribesman

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I would say the world is losing faith so something like a spiritual possession sounds Cooky to most . But if we believe the gospel we have to acknowledge evil
Sprits influence metal behavior I think of one violent and crazy man who nominee could approach

was possessed with many a legion of demons afterwards when Jesus drove them out , the man had returned to his right mind and wanted to go with Jesus

“And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.

But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.

And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭5:2-10, 15, 18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

seems as if there is definitely a connection to behavior and spirit it seems wonderful that this man who everyone had given up on so as to chain him and keep Him away found Jesus even in his torment Jesus is really wonderful
Yes, indeed, from these things one can be healed and delivered.