Easter Celebration, Is It Biblical?

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mustaphadrink

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Ok get it, Plymouth Brethren, Ole John N. Darbyites

Yes the Brethren are really mystical on the Lords supper, especially the exclusives, I fully understand now

Must have been a real experience, the exclusives are like a cult in their own
I wasn't involved in the Exclusives. My contact was with the Plymouth Brethren.
 

mustaphadrink

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Actually the Bible does teach us exactly that.

THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST IS TO BE CELEBRATED WEEKLY ON THE LORD'S DAY. And that is why it was designated as "the Lord's Day".

Therefore there is absolutely no reason to avoid it as a special annual remembrance. The Passover was to be remembered annually by the Jews, and since Christ out Passover has not only been sacrificed but risen again, this is even more significant.

As to the pagan connections to Easter, those were discarded a long time ago. And things like Easter eggs and bunnies are just plain old commercialism.
Can you state the verses that tell us to celebrate weekly the resurrection of Christ and where it mentions the Lord's Day in this regard?
 

mustaphadrink

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How did you arrive at April for Jesus's birth? Based on what I've read it was closer to summer. But im not swearing by it, because it is just speculation, but you seem sure it is April.
I arrived at that period of time because I did a search of evidence from various notable authors and the general opinion was April.
 

Nehemiah6

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Christianity hung the resurrection on this time that follows the vernal equinox, full moon, and sunday following
You are still persisting in your nonsensical attacks on Easter. It is God who gave to Israel the month of Nisan as their first month. And it corresponds to March-April. And Jesus was crucified on the 14th of Nisan, and rose again on the 18th of Nisan. So what you are doing is mocking God for making the crucifixion of Christ correspond to the Feast of Passover, and the resurrection correspond to the Feast of Firstfruits. As usual you are off on a tangent.
 

posthuman

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So we could see that Passover was no longer at play after the resurrection.
isn't Paul saying that it is by saying "let us keep the feast" and "with the unleavened bread" ?
and he doesn't change the name God gave it, in order to make the connection to Christ's fulfillment of it.
 

Nehemiah6

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Can you state the verses that tell us to celebrate weekly the resurrection of Christ and where it mentions the Lord's Day in this regard?
Actually the Holy Spirit should have already been telling you this through the Scriptures. He has been telling it to millions of Christians for hundreds of years. So kindly ask God to reveal this to you.
 

mustaphadrink

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Since the Lord Himself instituted the Lord's Supper -- as distinct from the Passover Meal and AFTER it-- you are the one talking nonsense.

The apostolic churches observed the Lord's Supper every Lord's Day (the first day of the week), and that automatically included the fact of His resurrection. The Lord's Day was meant to be a weekly Remembrance of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. It is significant that the Bible says that Christ visited the apostles ON THE EIGHTH DAY after His resurrection in order to meet with Thomas, who then worshipped Him. It is also significant that Paul waited until the first day of the week to meet with the disciples in Troas when they "broke bread" (the Lord's Supper). It is also significant that Christ met the apostle John who was "in the Spirit" on the Lord's Day (at the beginning of the Revelation of Jesus Christ).

Also Christ was not born in April, but in early September. And He was crucified on the 14th day of Nisan in AD 30 (which would correspond to the time that Good Friday and Easter are celebrated in March-April). There has been nothing pagan about Easter for many centuries, so that is simply a straw man argument. However, Good Friday should actually be Good Wednesday to fulfill three days and three nights as prophesied by Christ.

As to the Lord's Supper, it is meant to be a Remembrance Feast on a weekly basis. If churches have attached a mystical meaning to it or perverted it into the Eucharist, that is something else.

Correction. To Break Bread is not the Lords supper. If you study the background to the New Testament Church, you will find that in that part of the world the common greeting to join someone for a meal was 'come and break bread with us." I have read at least a dozen books on this topic and they all say the same thing.

I did not know this until I looked deeper into the background to the New Testament Church and there it was. So I investigated even further and realised that when the church came together for a meal, offering a thimbleful of wine and a piece of bread was ridiculous if the purpose of the meal was to feed the poor and needy which it was. No one was going to go away filled with a sip of wine and a piece of bread.
 

mustaphadrink

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Actually the Holy Spirit should have already been telling you this through the Scriptures. He has been telling it to millions of Christians for hundreds of years. So kindly ask God to reveal this to you.
So what you are saying is there are no scriptures to support your theories. That does not surpise me as there are none.
 

posthuman

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We help them live in this unreal way when we serve pig at our potluck dinners at Easter, decorate with Easter Baskets, and have Easter Egg Hunts for church children.
yes our 'tradition' to eat ham at Easter is crazy!
 

John146

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No place in scripture is the believer instructed to follow the vernal equinox, full moon, and the sunday following called (Easter) that many churches follow.
I agree, an example of a good thing gone bad. Shall I give other examples of how modern churches have taken a good biblical thing and corrupted it?
 

Truth7t7

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You are still persisting in your nonsensical attacks on Easter. It is God who gave to Israel the month of Nisan as their first month. And it corresponds to March-April. And Jesus was crucified on the 14th of Nisan, and rose again on the 18th of Nisan. So what you are doing is mocking God for making the crucifixion of Christ correspond to the Feast of Passover, and the resurrection correspond to the Feast of Firstfruits. As usual you are off on a tangent.
On (April 4th 2021) Did this Easter Sunday in the USA follow the vernal equinox on Mar 20th and full moon this year being Mar 30th, arriving at Sunday (April 4th 2021? "YES"

No place in scripture is the believer instructed to follow the vernal equinox, full moon, and the sunday following this moon, that's called (Easter) that many churches follow.

The believer is instructed by (JESUS CHRIST) to remember his (Death) not his birth or resurrection, (Simple)

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
 

Truth7t7

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I agree, an example of a good thing gone bad. Shall I give other examples of how modern churches have taken a good biblical thing and corrupted it?
A Good Thing Gone Bad?

The believer is instructed by Jesus Christ Himself, to remember his (Death)

Not one place in scripture is remembrance of his Birth or Resurrection given, (Simple)

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
 

posthuman

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A Good Thing Gone Bad?

The believer is instructed by Jesus Christ Himself, to remember his (Death)

Not one place in scripture is remembrance of his Birth or Resurrection given, (Simple)

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

There is no record in scripture of Christ commanding anyone to make a thread on CC

:unsure:
 

Lanolin

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passover and easter happens around the same time.
while pagans celebrated easter, the hebrews celebrated passover. When pagans became christians, their cultural traditions crossed over.

Thats why you get the spring festival things with passover. In the southern hemisphere, its actually autumn.

The decorated eggs have become a symbol of new life of the resurrection, but the association is tenuous for some cos its not in the Bible. Yet some churches persist with the tradition for various reasons.
Its like how some churches put up christmas trees.

Im more likely to question um why? But people think its fun so they continue to do it. Im more of a live and let live ...if people want to do it then you cant stop them. If they end up sick from eating too much chocolate then that is their problem!
 

Truth7t7

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There is no record in scripture of Christ commanding anyone to make a thread on CC

:unsure:
2 Timothy 4:2-4KJV
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
 

Truth7t7

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passover and easter happens around the same time.
while pagans celebrated easter, the hebrews celebrated passover. When pagans became christians, their cultural traditions crossed over.

Thats why you get the spring festival things with passover. In the southern hemisphere, its actually autumn.

The decorated eggs have become a symbol of new life of the resurrection, but the association is tenuous for some cos its not in the Bible. Yet some churches persist with the tradition for various reasons.
Its like how some churches put up christmas trees.

Im more likely to question um why? But people think its fun so they continue to do it. Im more of a live and let live ...if people want to do it then you cant stop them. If they end up sick from eating too much chocolate then that is their problem!
Nobody is trying to stop anybody from Easter, just bringing light in truth to the (Facts)

Easter has nothing to do with the resurrection, nor is it instructed to be observed biblically, same applies to Christmas, and the false claim of a Birthday of Jesus Christ

The believer is instructed by Jesus Christ Himself, to remember his (Death)

Not one place in scripture is remembrance of his Birth or Resurrection given, (Simple)

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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[had to EDIT what I tried to put earlier ^ :D ]



[re: Acts 20] Nehemiah6 said: It is also significant that Paul waited until the first day of the week to meet with the disciples in Troas when they "broke bread" [...]
Correction. To Break Bread is not the Lords supper. If you study the background to the New Testament Church, you will find that in that part of the world the common greeting to join someone for a meal was 'come and break bread with us." I have read at least a dozen books on this topic and they all say the same thing.
I did not know this until I looked deeper into the background to the New Testament Church and there it was. So I investigated even further and realised that when the church came together for a meal, offering a thimbleful of wine and a piece of bread was ridiculous if the purpose of the meal was to feed the poor and needy which it was. No one was going to go away filled with a sip of wine and a piece of bread.
While I don't ENTIRELY agree with @Nehemiah6 's take on it, I DO believe Acts 20 is talking about "at a certain time of the year" based on the wording in the CONTEXT... Note esp v.7's "on the first OF THE WEEKS [PLURAL]"... this refers to a very specific time-of-year, rather than describing just any random day (that this was occurring):



Acts 20:6 -
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and we sailed, after [/meta - can mean 'in company with'] the days of the Unleavened [Bread], from Philippi, and came to them to Troas in five days, where we abided seven days.


Acts 20:7 -
And on the first [day] of the weeks [PLURAL], the disciples having been gathered together to break bread, Paul was discoursing to them, about to depart on the next day, he was also continuing the discourse until midnight,

Godbey New Testament [this wording is consistent with the Greek, where "weeks" here is PLURAL, i.e. "on the first of the SABBATHS [PLURAL]"]
And on the first of the Sabbaths [PLURAL] we being assembled to break bread, Paul spoke to them, being about to depart the following day, and continued his discourse till midnight:



Acts 20:8 -
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and there were many lamps in the upper chamber where they were gathered together [G4863 - assembled / gathered-together],

Acts 20:9 [re: Eutychus / Eutuchos - from "well / well-done" and "to hit the mark"; or, "well-fated, -fortunate"] -
and there a certain youth was sitting, by name Eutychus, on the window—being borne down by a deep sleep, Paul discoursing long—he having sunk down from the sleep, fell down from the third story, and was lifted up [airo - G142] dead.

Acts 20:10 -
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And Paul, having gone down [/having descended], fell on him, and having embraced [him], said, “Make no tumult, for his life is in him”;

Acts 20:11 -
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and having come up, and having broken bread, and having tasted, for a long time also having talked—until daylight, so he went forth,

Acts 20:12 -
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and they brought up the boy alive, and were comforted in no ordinary measure.

[...--Paul traveling--...]

Acts 20:16 -
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for Paul decided to sail past Ephesus, that there may not be to him a loss of time in Asia, for he was hurrying, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem on the day of the Pentecost.



[those "WEEKS / SABBATHS [PLURAL]," in this context (and where used elsewhere, like Jn20:1 for example), are indeed referring exclusively to the time-period BETWEEN Firstfruit [<--marking/representing Jesus' resurrection day (Lev23:10-23 / 1Cor15:20)] and Pentecost / Feast of Weeks / Shavuot; so that "in the FIRST of the WEEKS [PLURAL]" refers to its STARTING POINT (perhaps even including the entire first 7 days of those entire SEVEN WEEKS [the 50th Day being "Pentecost"/"Shavuot"/"Feast of Weeks"(<--aka "the FEAST of Firstfruits"/"the DAY of Firstfruits"[Num28:26]--distinct from [and not to be confused with] "Firstfruit" which was earlier, back at the START of the "7 Weeks"-Lev23:10-12)]--thus, a very specific time-of-year, rather than just any random day, re: THIS CONTEXT, here)]



Just my two cents... = )

[this is NOT to say that I don't believe they "broke bread" at OTHER times also! But just that the CONTEXT here is describing a very specific time of year]
 

fredoheaven

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No place in scripture is the believer instructed to follow the vernal equinox, full moon, and the sunday following

The believer is instructed to remember the Lord's (Death) not his birth or resurrection, (Simple)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
Well, you are just trying to draw your conclusion from the word of God without understanding. This sounds familiar which is considered to be circular reasoning. The thing is that you are following is of a late source tracing back only to one source of evidence back to Venerable Bede. New Unger Dictionary by Merrill F. Unger being updated or expanded which early introduced in 1957 is therefore of late. Unger didn’t even cite earlier common definitions and even did not consider foreign tongue such as French-English Dictionary by William Caxton (1480), Geoffrey Grammarian 1499, John Palsgrave (1530-French-English), even Latin word, has the meaning of both Passover and easter in reference to the resurrection. Italian have both the same meaning. The German and Swedish ostern, Dutch aust to name a few.

Since your etymology has something to do with ‘Eastre” goddess of spring fertility which is based on traditions of paganism supposed to predate Christianity yet it has nothing to do with Biblical Easter or Passover. Biblical Etymology has something to do with the rising of Sun, in the day dawn and that exactly, the Sun of Righteousness springs Malachi 4:2 (Jesus Christ). The Lord’s passover” begins on 14th Nisan, Leviticus 23:5, with the sacrifice “at the going down of the sun” of the lamb which is called “the passover” Deuteronomy 16:6. Look also the significance of Luke 1:78 referring to Christ as “dayspring from on high”.

Further, when Tyndale used it, he never associates it with paganism. He used it to mean both Passover and Easter.

Perhaps you need to consider Biblical roots and not paganized roots. Even the Bible says of Easter in Acts 12.