There Will Be No Future Millennium On This Earth, A False Teaching Of Man

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) No Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) No Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) No Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

I tend to lean amillenial myself. Not that I claim to be an authority. I really don't understand eschatology too much.
It's kind of interesting that a major view before ww1 was post millennialism, then after the war premillennialism really took off.

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) No Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) No Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) No Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) No Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) No Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) No Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

I think the first fruits in heaven are of the first resurrection and are reigning in the kingdom of heaven now it stands to reckon because they rose from the dead just after Jesus did

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) No Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) No Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) No Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist), A 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Is A Man Made Fairy Tale (Fact)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time (Fact)

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1st: God's land promise (Gen 12:1, 13:15, 15:18-21) to Abraham is yet, to be fulfilled.

When were the following Isa 11 & Zec 14, Dan 7 fulfilled?

Isa 11:
1And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
(NOTE: Jesse was David's father & Christ comes thru this lineage)

4 with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

5 righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Zechariah 14:
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 (A) And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
(NOTE: At Christ's return, when his feet touch the Mt, resurrected saints are with him Zec 14:5, Jude 14,1 Thes 3:13)

14:9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
(NOTE: King on/over all the earth)

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

When has EVERY NATION been required to travel to Jerusalem to worship the King Jesus, the LORD of hosts?

Dan 7:
13 (B) one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

When have ALL people, nations & languages, should serve King Jesus?

Additional scripture support:

Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
(NOTE: Heaven will receive Jesus ""UNTIL"" the restitution of all things. This is the time when resurrected believers will enjoy their promised heavenly inheritance (Eph 1:1, Col 3:24, Heb 9:15, 1 Pet 1:4). In their heavenly body with earthly soul intact.

Matt 19:
27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?

28And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
(NOTE: The regeneration is the time when resurrected believers will enjoy their promised heavenly inheritance (Eph 1:1, Col 3:24, Heb 9:15, 1 Pet 1:4). In their heavenly body with earthly soul intact, helping Christ reign)

Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
(NOTE: Immediately after the tribulation)

Matt 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory.
(NOTE: Immediately after the tribulation)

Mk 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
(NOTE: After the tribulation)

Rev 20:6 & 7, we are given the timeframe of 1000 years. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.
(NOTE: The Jewish remnant & other believers alive at Jesus 2nd coming. Still in their Adamic/sinful nature will under Christs peaceful/no war rule, quickly repopulate earth. After 1000 yrs satan will be loosed & like us today, they will have a choice to make.)

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[Job 19:25-27 - "25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day [H314] upon the earth:
26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me."]

I agree that the thousand year reign is in the heavenly kingdom I think a lot of people miss that when Christ was taken into heaven the kingdom is established in heaven , and the earth is filled with Satan and his minions to go to war with man . And those who overcome the world through Christ , then have thier spirits saved into the heavenly kingdom and await the second resurrection at the end when Christ returns

I also agree the thousand years is not literal but should be viewed in this light

“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods forebearance towards man allowing us time to repent and be saved is what’s measuring time a thousand years is not different from a day to God I think also it represents a measure of time that the saints would rule in the heavenly kingdom with Christ until his return to earth

some folks can’t acknowledge that there is a heavenly kingdom established since Christ was taken into heaven or that Satans presence has filled the earth. I think the reign probably includes these folks who were resurrected with Christ they must be somewhere now ? I’d say thier probably part of the heavenly reign in Zion

“And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:52-53‬ ‭

I would imagine this is a glimpse into the resurrection noted as the first but it’s only My own thought or opinion I think the latter church is waiting for Christ to return to earth for that resurrection of both the good and wicked. But thier soirits I believe to be in heaven

“But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think the first fruits in heaven are of the first resurrection and are reigning in the kingdom of heaven now it stands to reckon because they rose from the dead just after Jesus did

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders:

and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:1-4‬ ‭

because revelations visions overlap so often we don’t connect them

“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:2-3‬ ‭

“And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭9:1-2, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:3-4, 7‬ ‭

revelation is made of many overlapping visions to give a comprehensive understanding of unseen heavenly events a look into the kingdom of heaven and how the earth is affected by it but the visions aren’t chronological they repetitively overlap to offer revelation that is otherwise unattainable because there’s no other biblical text showing the kingdom being established in heaven or really anything that happened after Jesus was taken out of the earths sight into heaven revelation shows us

“The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:8‬ ‭

he was , then was bound , and would yet come if we look at revelation as it presents itself it makes a big difference from approaching it as we already see it from an earthly perspective

a very thought provoking and thoroughly presented post thanks for taking the time

I tend to lean amillenial myself. Not that I claim to be an authority. I really don't understand eschatology too much.
It's kind of interesting that a major view before ww1 was post millennialism, then after the war premillennialism really took off.

The fact is powder, the whole concept of Millennialism is built on Rev 20:1-6 and the words (thousand years)

Your approach to Revelation is sound. The book of Revelation is of the Spiritual realm and is not sequential. A very important point to note is that in the heavenly kingdom time does not exist. We do not understand this concept as humans but it is true. God sees the beginning at the same time as He sees the end. This is the nature or disposition of the heavenly realm. Thus seeing things from an earthly (time oriented) perspective is the opposite of seeing them from a spiritual or heavenly perspective as John was in the Spirit in heaven when he reported what he saw.

1st: God's land promise (Gen 12:1, 13:15, 15:18-21) to Abraham is yet, to be fulfilled.

When were the following Isa 11 & Zec 14, Dan 7 fulfilled?

Isa 11:
1And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
(NOTE: Jesse was David's father & Christ comes thru this lineage)

4 with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

5 righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Zechariah 14:
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 (A) And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,
(NOTE: At Christ's return, when his feet touch the Mt, resurrected saints are with him Zec 14:5, Jude 14,1 Thes 3:13)

14:9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
(NOTE: King on/over all the earth)

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

When has EVERY NATION been required to travel to Jerusalem to worship the King Jesus, the LORD of hosts?

Dan 7:
13 (B) one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

When have ALL people, nations & languages, should serve King Jesus?

Additional scripture support:

Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
(NOTE: Heaven will receive Jesus ""UNTIL"" the restitution of all things. This is the time when resurrected believers will enjoy their promised heavenly inheritance (Eph 1:1, Col 3:24, Heb 9:15, 1 Pet 1:4). In their heavenly body with earthly soul intact.

Matt 19:
27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?

28And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
(NOTE: The regeneration is the time when resurrected believers will enjoy their promised heavenly inheritance (Eph 1:1, Col 3:24, Heb 9:15, 1 Pet 1:4). In their heavenly body with earthly soul intact, helping Christ reign)

Matt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
(NOTE: Immediately after the tribulation)

Matt 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory.
(NOTE: Immediately after the tribulation)

Mk 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
(NOTE: After the tribulation)

Rev 20:6 & 7, we are given the timeframe of 1000 years. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.
(NOTE: The Jewish remnant & other believers alive at Jesus 2nd coming. Still in their Adamic/sinful nature will under Christs peaceful/no war rule, quickly repopulate earth. After 1000 yrs satan will be loosed & like us today, they will have a choice to make.)

I agree that the thousand year reign is in the heavenly kingdom I think a lot of people miss that when Christ was taken into heaven the kingdom is established in heaven , and the earth is filled with Satan and his minions to go to war with man . And those who overcome the world through Christ , then have thier spirits saved into the heavenly kingdom and await the second resurrection at the end when Christ returns

I also agree the thousand years is not literal but should be viewed in this light

“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods forebearance towards man allowing us time to repent and be saved is what’s measuring time a thousand years is not different from a day to God I think also it represents a measure of time that the saints would rule in the heavenly kingdom with Christ until his return to earth

some folks can’t acknowledge that there is a heavenly kingdom established since Christ was taken into heaven or that Satans presence has filled the earth. I think the reign probably includes these folks who were resurrected with Christ they must be somewhere now ? I’d say thier probably part of the heavenly reign in Zion

“And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:52-53‬ ‭

I would imagine this is a glimpse into the resurrection noted as the first but it’s only My own thought or opinion I think the latter church is waiting for Christ to return to earth for that resurrection of both the good and wicked. But thier soirits I believe to be in heaven

“But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭12:22-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think the first fruits in heaven are of the first resurrection and are reigning in the kingdom of heaven now it stands to reckon because they rose from the dead just after Jesus did

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders:

and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:1-4‬ ‭

because revelations visions overlap so often we don’t connect them

“And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:4-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:2-3‬ ‭

“And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭9:1-2, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭11:3-4, 7‬ ‭

revelation is made of many overlapping visions to give a comprehensive understanding of unseen heavenly events a look into the kingdom of heaven and how the earth is affected by it but the visions aren’t chronological they repetitively overlap to offer revelation that is otherwise unattainable because there’s no other biblical text showing the kingdom being established in heaven or really anything that happened after Jesus was taken out of the earths sight into heaven revelation shows us

“The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:8‬ ‭

he was , then was bound , and would yet come if we look at revelation as it presents itself it makes a big difference from approaching it as we already see it from an earthly perspective

a very thought provoking and thoroughly presented post thanks for taking the time

[quoting] "George N. H. Peters [1825-1909] was an American Lutheran minister and author of The Theocratic Kingdom [published in 1884]. His premillennial views were in conflict with the majority of Lutherans who held amillennial beliefs." [end quoting]


So as far as your comment about "timing" (of "what" ppl believed "when"), I guess it all depends on who you talk to.

And I'm quite sure "G.N.H. Peters" was not the first "pre-mill"


[caveat: I disagree with his "partial-rapture theory"... but he's correct in his "pre-mill" viewpoint]

Perhaps you can help me find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?