Salvation Biblically Spoken In Three Ways

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Roughsoul1991

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We are saved from the debt of sin, we are being saved from the nature of sin, and we will be saved from the presence of sin. -Dr. David Jeremiah

Salvation is spoken in 3 ways. ¹Christ died to pay for our debt of sin. ²Christ died so that the Holy Spirit could come and ³help us in our nature of sin. Christ rose from death to ⁴justify us, make us righteous, and to 5secure our salvation in death where we will no longer have to 6struggle with sin. We will be transformed like Christ and resurrected like Christ into a new glorified body.

From righteousness to sanctification to glorification.

(1)Colossians 2:14 NIV
14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.


(2)John 16:7 ESV
7 Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you.


(3)1 Corinthians 15:1-2 ESV
15 Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, 2 and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.


Being saved is the Greek word 4982 sṓzō (from sōs, "safe, rescued") – properly, deliver out of danger and into safety; used principally of God rescuing believers from the penalty and power of sin – and into His provisions (safety).

God is rescuing the believers from the power of sin.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 ESV
Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

(4)Romans 5:18 ESV
Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

(5)2 Corinthians 3:18 ESV
And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.

1 John 3:2 ESV
Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.

Philippians 3:20-21 ESV
But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.

(6)Romans 7:23 NIV
23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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After relieved of the Sin Nature (nice Colossians quote above), Christ grants the ability to Repent.

Acts 11:18 CSB - "When they heard this they became silent. And they glorified God, saying, "So then, God has given repentance resulting in life even to the Gentiles."
 

Roughsoul1991

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After relieved of the Sin Nature (nice Colossians quote above), Christ grants the ability to Repent.

Acts 11:18 CSB - "When they heard this they became silent. And they glorified God, saying, "So then, God has given repentance resulting in life even to the Gentiles."
He doesn't grant the ability to repent. He grants repentance upon our belief.
 

Nehemiah6

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From righteousness to sanctification to glorification.
One could call it the three tenses of salvation and use the terms justification, sanctification, and glorification.

JUSTIFICATION -- saved from the penalty for sin
SANCTIFICATION -- saved from the power of sin
GLORIFICATION -- saved from the presence of sin

The Resurrection/Rapture is for the perfection and glorification of the saints. Therefore it cannot be at the same time as the Second Coming of Christ (which is for judgment upon the ungodly). Until then Christians are to "walk in the Spirit" (live by the power of the Holy Spirit) and not fulfil the desires of the flesh. Many people confuse justification (a one time act of God) with sanctification (the ongoing work of the Holy Spirit).
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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He doesn't grant the ability to repent. He grants repentance upon our belief.
Same verse but from the KJV.

Acts 11:18 KJV - "When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life."

Would you conclude that the beloved KJV is in error? It clearly states that God granted repentance . . . those exact words.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Same verse but from the KJV.

Acts 11:18 KJV - "When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life."

Would you conclude that the beloved KJV is in error? It clearly states that God granted repentance . . . those exact words.
This in context to the Gentiles being grafted in. It doesn't mean all would repent. KJV isn't my beloved but it is part of my translations I study from. One of many.
 
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Same verse but from the KJV.

Acts 11:18 KJV - "When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life."

Would you conclude that the beloved KJV is in error? It clearly states that God granted repentance . . . those exact words.
Actually you need to look at the mindset in the day this was written, it was very hard for any jew to think a dirty gentile could recieve remmision of sin no matter what, so this was amazing to them
 

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Same verse but from the KJV.

Acts 11:18 KJV - "When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life."

Would you conclude that the beloved KJV is in error? It clearly states that God granted repentance . . . those exact words.
Yes every living soul is granted repentance. But not all believe of course .
 
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I would also like to add that by Christ's sacrifice we will not be judged according to our sins. We all know what happens to people judged according to their sins. No one can face the judgement and even have one sin on their books. That's why we're saved by grace through faith in Christ's sacrifice to atone for our sins. We can't earn salvation, it is the gift of God because He loves us.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I would also like to add that by Christ's sacrifice we will not be judged according to our sins. We all know what happens to people judged according to their sins. No one can face the judgement and even have one sin on their books. That's why we're saved by grace through faith in Christ's sacrifice to atone for our sins. We can't earn salvation, it is the gift of God because He loves us.
Agree that happens as we put our faith in Jesus Christ. We are justified and seen as righteous. But God doesn't leave us where we start; instead, we are being sanctified. Glory to glory, as scripture says. It will be complete on the day of glorification, where we will no longer have sin to tempt us or feel torn between the two: sin or obedience. We will be perfected and set back to how we originally were meant to be.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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This in context to the Gentiles being grafted in. It doesn't mean all would repent. KJV isn't my beloved but it is part of my translations I study from. One of many.
So . . . does the KJV say that Repentance is granted?
 

Roughsoul1991

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So . . . does the KJV say that Repentance is granted?
Yes, it does, but the mistake was in interpretation via the laws of hermeneutics.

Biblical hermeneutics is the study of the principles and methods of interpreting the text of the Bible.

Context includes the verses immediately preceding and following, the chapter, the book, and, most broadly, the entire Bible.

How does the verse fluently fit with the entire Bible? This is what I was hitting on.
 
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Yes, it does, but the mistake was in interpretation via the laws of hermeneutics.

Biblical hermeneutics is the study of the principles and methods of interpreting the text of the Bible.

Context includes the verses immediately preceding and following, the chapter, the book, and, most broadly, the entire Bible.

How does the verse fluently fit with the entire Bible? This is what I was hitting on.
Perhaps repentance is a offering to God. Any offering has to be accepted by God.
There are many offerings that are preformed before entering in to the Holy of holies.
Christ our high priest prepares these offerings and presents them to God.
Repentance is a issue of the heart as well as a act of the flesh.... To turn away as well as not dwelling about those things that are evil in the sight of the Lord.
God may be granting by acceptance.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Perhaps repentance is a offering to God. Any offering has to be accepted by God.
There are many offerings that are preformed before entering in to the Holy of holies.
Christ our high priest prepares these offerings and presents them to God.
Repentance is a issue of the heart as well as a act of the flesh.... To turn away as well as not dwelling about those things that are evil in the sight of the Lord.
God may be granting by acceptance.
I do not see in scripture where repentance is an offering. Ceremonial offerings are no longer required. We come to the acknowledgment of sin by hearing the Word or being convicted consciously. This conviction leads the individual to human belief in Jesus Christ as Lord and their needed Savior. Out of belief, they realize their need for repentance, and so they repent. And interchangeably are given faith to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. By faith alone, we are saved. It is the moment of faith we are saved. Not the moment of repentance. Faith is and always will be the binding factor for our salvation. I hope this makes sense.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Yet your knowledge seems to transcend that of the scholars who wrote the KJV.

Okie Doke.
KJV is only one translation. What matters is the closeness to the original language. I actually did not correct the translation you used but corrected the interpretation. Big difference.