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surfer14

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Dino246 said:
To which you will likely get some second-hand bafflegab that contradicts observable reality.
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Maybe. But I'll tell you, it feels like everything else I thought I ever knew has turned out to be a lie. Why would this be any different? I don't really care if it's round or flat.

Where I'm at:
On the one hand:
Sunrise and sunset makes me think it's a round earth.
The apparent movement of the stars also makes me think it's a round earth.

But on the other hand:
The people that told me it's a round earth are known liars.
The Bible does mention stars falling to earth and some other somewhat cryptic references that could give some legitimacy to the idea of a flat earth.
 
Magenta

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surfer14 said:
The Bible does mention stars falling to earth and some other somewhat cryptic references that could give some legitimacy to the idea of a flat earth.
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Just curious: couldn't stars fall to a spherical earth as easily as stars falling on a flat earth?

In other words, how do stars falling to earth lend any credence whatsoever to the earth being flat?

Do meteorites landing on earth lend legitimacy to the earth being flat in your view also?
 
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Magenta said:
Just curious: couldn't stars fall to a spherical earth as easily as stars falling on a flat earth?

In other words, how do stars falling to earth lend any credence whatsoever to the earth being flat?

Do meteorites landing on earth lend legitimacy to the earth being flat in your view also?
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What we're told is that stars are super far away and they're way, way bigger than the Earth. If they were to fall to earth, then the earth would be crushed like a bug. Plus, they're so much bigger, that it would be weird to say they "fall to Earth". In a flat earth model, I don't think that the stars are necessarily quite so far or enormous. Thus I think they could more reasonably "fall to earth".

I would think meteorites could exist in a round or flat earth.
 
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Breaking News, This Just In........the earth is round.......................
 
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May I ask you "Christians" if you believe the bible to be the true word of God? Have you ever sat down alone and tried to even read scripture? Well if you answered both questions with a yes then you know the word of god to be true . which means flat earth is the truth. There are so many scriptures referring to flat earth. That CLEARLY states it's facts in the BIBLE. You can open scripture and find all these facts yourselves since you proclaim your a believer. Secondly , is it so far off of a thought to think that we were lied to and led to believe all of the FALSE truths from our ADVERSARY for the soul purpose to DECEIVE gods object of his love "human's". To steal the soul's and torment them in eternal damnation. Hmmm if you truly knew scripture you would wipe that grin off you face and get down on your knees in RIGHTEOUS fear of our Lord. For those of you who really are deceived about believing you can see the curvature of earth in a commercial aircraft please get back on that plane and investigate the fishbowl Windows. Remember what the Lord says , "deception is Grand , let NO man deceive you by any by any means . also were warned to " Be not ignorant of Satan's DEVICES" . & THE LORD says his people perish for lack of knowledge ". ... He's very clear that the knowledge of the world is useless and only the word of god can walk you through this deceptive mine field that Satan currently reigns. Here's what the Lord showed me about flat earth that I could see with my own eyes. The most simple way you can see for yourself . test it all you want it never LIES . water . when we're building and we want something to be level , we use a LEVELER right. The water in the level is always right when laid on something that's Flat or LEVELED. NOW Try going out to the ocean or lake or fill up your bathtub or cup ect. It always lays flat no matter what you use to manipulate it . It will always flatten itself out . think about it before responding in a ignorant remark. Test it out for your self and then compare it to scripture on flat earth. "Its the glory of God to conceal a matter and the honor of King's to search it out"..... GODBLESS all of you and may the lord reveal the amount of TRUTH to you ,equal to as much you seek him for it. amen
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Does being a Christian mean a person must also be an uneducated ignorant imbecile? The earth is a spheroid like all other planets.
 
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PC123 said:
@GaryA ... How have u been?
A new flat earth thread I see...

I haven't read any of it I just want to ask if you could show me where the north and south poles are on the flat earth map
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North is towards the center; South is away from the center in all directions.
 
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North is towards the center; South is away from the center in all directions.
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But im looking south and the southern cross is above it
Someone in South America is doing the same thing but their looking in another direction
Same with South Africa

Iv been looking at the stars and thinking about this for a while.
In my mind, it doesn't work.

The concave theory has been on my mind...
The compass works fine on it and its just interesting to ponder that you might be behind those stars on the other side of the world

I do have a way that flat earth would work with this compass problem...
Thats if the flat earth was a diamond with a north and south pole.
The earth may have corners after all
 
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At what elevation [angle]?
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The north star shows u where north is.
The southern cross shows us where south is.

So. Just like there is a north pole there should also be a south pole. In one spot. True?
 
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Magenta said:
Just curious: couldn't stars fall to a spherical earth as easily as stars falling on a flat earth?

In other words, how do stars falling to earth lend any credence whatsoever to the earth being flat?
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On a spherical Earth (especially with heliocentrism), the stars have to be much further away - as in light-years away. Much closer on a flat Earth - less than a light-day, which also makes sense in view of the light reaching the Earth during the 6 days of the Creation week.

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Do meteorites landing on earth lend legitimacy to the earth being flat in your view also?
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Meteorites could simply be stars or pieces of firmament. It's supposed to be firm, afterall.
 
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The devil takes Jesus up a high mountain and shows him all the kingdom's of the earth, how would this work if the earth was round?

Also the 4 corners of the earth.

And in Isaiah 40:22 he sits upon the circle of the earth and stretches out the heavens as a tent to dwell in.

I've never got too obsessed about this subject and respect others beliefs.
I just don't think the round earth as a spinning ball flying through space makes any sense.
The stars falling from heaven comes to mind also and the sun being so far away.
I truly believe NASA was created to decieve, Satan's fingerprints are all over it and it's sole purpose is to discredit biblical truth and lead people away from God.

I also understand I could easily be wrong.
 
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PC123 said:
Perpendicular to the horizon. At any elevation.
Just like the north star is up there, so to is the southern cross down here
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I was referring to the angle between horizontal-ground-level-zero and the [imaginary] line that runs from your eyes to the southern cross stars.

Your last sentence above suggests that the southern cross is [always] seen "straight up" (angle = 90 degrees) - is that correct?
 
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GaryA said:
Your last sentence above suggests that the southern cross is [always] seen "straight up" (angle = 90 degrees) - is that correct?
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From south... Yes, within 30 degrees, depending on the orientation of crux (southern cross)

Diego cannot possibly be in Brazil looking the opposite way to me and also see the crux to the south.
Neither can Dwayne in south Africa or Dean in NZ.

The south pole cannot be in multipole positions, sorry. That particular FE model is impossible.

Im guessing there aren't many flat earthers in the southern hemisphere, maybe u just have to be here to witness what we witness
 
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GaryA said:
I was referring to the angle between horizontal-ground-level-zero and the [imaginary] line that runs from your eyes to the southern cross stars.

Your last sentence above suggests that the southern cross is [always] seen "straight up" (angle = 90 degrees) - is that correct?
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It's time to let it go mate. That FÉ model is flawed.
It doesn't acknowledge the crux and/or the south pole

If u understand how the southern cross points us to the south then u would realize that the south pole cannot be in multiple directions.

Sometimes the truth can be hard to accept if you've belived something for a long time but without an explanation for the south pole then the model falls apart. There must be a south pole just as thete is a north pole...

For me... After looking closely at the stars and thinking about it for a few months i conclude that this particular FÉ model is incorrect until someone can show me where the south pole is or how the crux can be in front of me an behind me at once.

Time to explore other option's Gazza
 
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TheLivingStone said:
The devil takes Jesus up a high mountain and shows him all the kingdom's of the earth, how would this work if the earth was round?

Also the 4 corners of the earth.

And in Isaiah 40:22 he sits upon the circle of the earth and stretches out the heavens as a tent to dwell in.

I've never got too obsessed about this subject and respect others beliefs.
I just don't think the round earth as a spinning ball flying through space makes any sense.
The stars falling from heaven comes to mind also and the sun being so far away.
I truly believe NASA was created to decieve, Satan's fingerprints are all over it and it's sole purpose is to discredit biblical truth and lead people away from God.

I also understand I could easily be wrong.
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Only an American space agency is set up to deceive? What about Indian, Russia etc?
 
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