Deception. Where do we draw the line?
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It's like slavery and racism. Once considered normal but thank God we know better now! I very much believe in progress and science including social science and psychology.are tools that can be used for good or for bad.
I don't agree with progressive.views if they go against the bible but when i searched the scriptures prohibiting medicine of any kind or from women having jobs etc I couldn't find any. So I don't think God has an issue with !y beliefs and if He does He will tell me. It won't affect my standing with Him as His blood has covered all my sins I will ever do or have done it
some peopel.tell me.I'm using witchcraft.and sorcery for using paychiatry and psychotherapy and taking psych meds and some Christian "prophets" have told me personally that the Lord has told them I have lost my salvation because of it and will go to hell if I don't repent. I choose to stick to the word of God. I do believe in the gifts and I have been involved in prophetic ministry myself but o nce.we.are born again we are safe from God's condemnation
I don't believe God likes me v much. Loves me yes but I think He disgusted with me . Yet I know the bible says am going to heaven because I am God's child and have been born again. So even though I sometimes see my own strict abusive fathers face screaming curses at me when I try to pray, and I don't have a high opinion of myself.I believe the bible says that Jesus said "it is finished!" and All those who have trusted only. in the finished work of the cross to save them will be in paradise one day with Him. Not all of us will get rewards though..if we disobey we.are considered the least in the kingdom .
I don't agree with progressive.views if they go against the bible but when i searched the scriptures prohibiting medicine of any kind or from women having jobs etc I couldn't find any. So I don't think God has an issue with !y beliefs and if He does He will tell me. It won't affect my standing with Him as His blood has covered all my sins I will ever do or have done it
some peopel.tell me.I'm using witchcraft.and sorcery for using paychiatry and psychotherapy and taking psych meds and some Christian "prophets" have told me personally that the Lord has told them I have lost my salvation because of it and will go to hell if I don't repent. I choose to stick to the word of God. I do believe in the gifts and I have been involved in prophetic ministry myself but o nce.we.are born again we are safe from God's condemnation
I don't believe God likes me v much. Loves me yes but I think He disgusted with me . Yet I know the bible says am going to heaven because I am God's child and have been born again. So even though I sometimes see my own strict abusive fathers face screaming curses at me when I try to pray, and I don't have a high opinion of myself.I believe the bible says that Jesus said "it is finished!" and All those who have trusted only. in the finished work of the cross to save them will be in paradise one day with Him. Not all of us will get rewards though..if we disobey we.are considered the least in the kingdom .
I think in a lot of cases people think deception is better than honesty if honesty gets you in trouble. But then think of Jesus he could have lied and avoided crucifixtion, but he didnt.
Yes he suffered for telling the truth. But the truth sets people free.
Being truthful doesnt mean you always tell someone everything though. sometimes you just dont say anything. I recall Jesus saying to others not to tell others about his miracles, because the Pharisees were after him to kill him. But he didnt say lie about it, just not tell them.
Yes he suffered for telling the truth. But the truth sets people free.
Being truthful doesnt mean you always tell someone everything though. sometimes you just dont say anything. I recall Jesus saying to others not to tell others about his miracles, because the Pharisees were after him to kill him. But he didnt say lie about it, just not tell them.
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Am pretty.sure she wasn't making it up. She used to lash out at other kids and was v. Angry.a lot of the time. Hurting people hurt others. I was bullied at school and looking back I don't think those kids had secure homes either!
and if she was making it up then she did need psychiatric help. That's a mental illness to fake things like this repeatedly. Am sure Jesus would be v gentle with this girl. He was kind to the woman who was going to be stoned for adultery and that woman was in sound mind, as far.as.we know.
I have changed my concept of God from an angry judgemental ogre to a kind gentle.one who disciplines out of love and doesn't throw us away when we mess up.
Lawlessness?.probably. But I know my heart motives are what Jesus is most concerned with. Getting into heaven or accepted by Jesus isn't like some college exam! I'm not saying doctrine doesn't matter.But it is possible to not have perfect doctrine and still be loved by Jesus
A lot of preachers these days claim only a handful are saved. I am sure it must be more than that because the bible makes it clear.we.are saved by trusting only in Jesus . Good works come from salvation. Not other way round
and if she was making it up then she did need psychiatric help. That's a mental illness to fake things like this repeatedly. Am sure Jesus would be v gentle with this girl. He was kind to the woman who was going to be stoned for adultery and that woman was in sound mind, as far.as.we know.
I have changed my concept of God from an angry judgemental ogre to a kind gentle.one who disciplines out of love and doesn't throw us away when we mess up.
Lawlessness?.probably. But I know my heart motives are what Jesus is most concerned with. Getting into heaven or accepted by Jesus isn't like some college exam! I'm not saying doctrine doesn't matter.But it is possible to not have perfect doctrine and still be loved by Jesus
A lot of preachers these days claim only a handful are saved. I am sure it must be more than that because the bible makes it clear.we.are saved by trusting only in Jesus . Good works come from salvation. Not other way round
I can never accept that some people are just evil. I believe in original sin nature and we.so have it but I do also think there are usually reasons why we do certain sins . And someone who is lying about being abused for no gain (e.g. Financial or revenge etc) is not well in their minds. Because even reprobate unbelievers know that lying about abuse is a sick thing to do. So yeah, either she was telling truth or she was sick in her mind needing healing not condemnation
well we dont really know everyones motives. Why would Mrs Potiphar lie about Joseph trying to rape her when she was the one trying to seduce him.
I thought that she did it to cover up her own sin and try and blame someone else. People do project, but I reckon they dont need help. They need to stop lying.
I thought that she did it to cover up her own sin and try and blame someone else. People do project, but I reckon they dont need help. They need to stop lying.
but we not talking
If the motive is to gain attention or sympathy that is a cry for help, an unmet need that needs meeting. So yes this young lady was right to seek help.
she was 17 at the time old enough to live her own life!.
I knew this family and knowing what I know the parents actions were wrong. In the UK denying your child medical help they need is classed as neglect
And I don't have time for any religion that says science including psychology is occult or witchcraft. I like Jesus but I don't do the religion part of i t. I mean I go to church and sometimes take communion there but aside from that I don't practice the religious side of it at all. I do pray but that to me is a relationship not a religion.
and as for salvation I trust only in the blood of Jesus alone. I have that assurance because of what Jesus did... His blood is bigger than any so called Witchcraft or sorcery. He paid it all and will forgive me
If the motive is to gain attention or sympathy that is a cry for help, an unmet need that needs meeting. So yes this young lady was right to seek help.
she was 17 at the time old enough to live her own life!.
I knew this family and knowing what I know the parents actions were wrong. In the UK denying your child medical help they need is classed as neglect
And I don't have time for any religion that says science including psychology is occult or witchcraft. I like Jesus but I don't do the religion part of i t. I mean I go to church and sometimes take communion there but aside from that I don't practice the religious side of it at all. I do pray but that to me is a relationship not a religion.
and as for salvation I trust only in the blood of Jesus alone. I have that assurance because of what Jesus did... His blood is bigger than any so called Witchcraft or sorcery. He paid it all and will forgive me
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Am not against honesty but in a situation like my friends she had to lie to keep herself safe and get the help she needed
what loving God would send someone to hell for that? God is love. He wouldn't so that to my friend
Am saying sometimes with lying the end justifies the means
I don't see how my friends lying to her parents was any different than people lying to SS officers about hiding Jews in their homes during the reign of the 3rd Reich. lying for a good cause is not the same as lying to slander someone or cause mischief. The ten commandments specifically described the sin of false witness.
white lies are wrong in most cases yes but we are all guilty.of that. I thank God for the blood of Jesus or none of us would go to heaven.
what loving God would send someone to hell for that? God is love. He wouldn't so that to my friend
Am saying sometimes with lying the end justifies the means
I don't see how my friends lying to her parents was any different than people lying to SS officers about hiding Jews in their homes during the reign of the 3rd Reich. lying for a good cause is not the same as lying to slander someone or cause mischief. The ten commandments specifically described the sin of false witness.
white lies are wrong in most cases yes but we are all guilty.of that. I thank God for the blood of Jesus or none of us would go to heaven.
THanks. I didn't really consider that not allowing a burglar to break in would cause harm of any kind really. And if it does mean they can't steal, that's good, maybe they will actually get a job so they don't have to? I mean in terms of their welfare and their soul they need to have the opportunity to earn living rather than steal.
Regarding makeup, that's interesting as I hadn't linked it to pornography or lust. Maybe because I only ever hear people talk about using make-up to give themselves more confidence or hide blemishes .
I was talking bout mrs potiphar not your friend. I dont know your friend.
Children lie because they think they will get in trouble or punished if they dont lie. Good parents will encourage truth telling. If your parents are wicked, and you stick with the truth then its likely you will end up in the fiery furnace, but God will be with you then.
He will vindicate those who put their life at risk for telling the truth.
if parents are abusive you dont need to go to a pyshciatrist,,,you'd just report them to the police or social worker. A psychiatrist isnt going to sort out problems with parents.
Children lie because they think they will get in trouble or punished if they dont lie. Good parents will encourage truth telling. If your parents are wicked, and you stick with the truth then its likely you will end up in the fiery furnace, but God will be with you then.
He will vindicate those who put their life at risk for telling the truth.
if parents are abusive you dont need to go to a pyshciatrist,,,you'd just report them to the police or social worker. A psychiatrist isnt going to sort out problems with parents.
I imagine these "prophets" would not understand the stress that being afraid of your own thoughts and actions can cause. When your mind and thoughts are your worse enemy life can get extremely challenging. Another point of view on the subject. https://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-prescription-drugs.html
yes but also need psychotherapy for the complex PTS D from the abuse if it has affected them. All so illnesses like borderline personality disorder narcissistic personality disorder and munchausens syndrome are linked to abuse and my friend had some of these diagnoses. I am not saying that's true for all abuse survivors but for many of us
If war veterans are allowed to get treatment for shell shock then surviving abuse is no different
God provides psychotherapy and recovery groups for the above groups . There's nothing unBiblical or sinful about it
this reminds me of those churches that way women shouldn't wear lipstick or cut their hair because it's "worldly". It's simply a cultural or denominational opinion.
the law we need to obey is in the Word we don't need to make rules about extra things
so many prophecies these days are extrajudicial knowledge, clouds without wind. I will stick with God's word and the few prophets I know for sure are truly listening to Jesus
most church leaders are in it for the money. Or they really believe they hearing from God. There is a remnant who truly know Him though
If war veterans are allowed to get treatment for shell shock then surviving abuse is no different
God provides psychotherapy and recovery groups for the above groups . There's nothing unBiblical or sinful about it
this reminds me of those churches that way women shouldn't wear lipstick or cut their hair because it's "worldly". It's simply a cultural or denominational opinion.
the law we need to obey is in the Word we don't need to make rules about extra things
so many prophecies these days are extrajudicial knowledge, clouds without wind. I will stick with God's word and the few prophets I know for sure are truly listening to Jesus
most church leaders are in it for the money. Or they really believe they hearing from God. There is a remnant who truly know Him though
there are boarding schools yes. Not everyone gets chance to go. It depends on the circumstance
I don't believe God would want us to judge someone who coped with a horrendous situation as a teenager. God is love. Judgement and condemnation aren't for believer
As Don Francisco says (for us Christians ) "only love is spoken here"
