The Discrimination of Non-Mask Wearers: Vaccination Card Required to fly, to work, to eat, etc.

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Roughsoul1991

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Religious Rights in the Workplace
By Mathew D. Staver, Esq.
Copyright © 2000​

Federal law, commonly referred to as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or Title VII,(1) prohibits most employers(2) and unions(3) from discriminating against their employees on the basis of religion.(4) Title VII applies to any employer having fifteen or more employees for each working day in each of the twenty or more calendar weeks in the current or preceding calendar year.(5) Other state or local laws may also prevent discrimination on the basis of religion and such laws may apply to employers with less than fifteen employees.(6)

Title VII states as follows:

It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer --

(1) To fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise to discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment, because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin; or

(2) To limit, segregate, or classify his employees or applicants for employment in any way which would deprive or tend to deprive any individual of employment opportunities or otherwise adversely affect his status as an employee, because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.(7)

Title VII then defines "religion" as follows:

The term "religion" includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief, unless an employer demonstrates that he is unable to reasonably accommodate an employee's or prospective employee's religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer's business.(8)

Under Title VII, an employer is required to accommodate an employee's sincerely held religious belief unless the employer can prove that the accommodation would result in an undue hardship to the employer's business.

Three Aspects of a Title VII Claim

The three aspects of a Title VII claim involve the employee's sincerely held religious belief, the employer's accommodation of that belief, and the employer's defense that it cannot accommodate the belief because the accommodation would result in an undue hardship.

Sincerely Held Religious Belief

Title VII prohibits discrimination based upon an employee's religious belief. This discrimination applies not only to hiring and firing but to all terms, conditions, and privileges of employment. Under Title VII the term "religion" is broadly defined to include "all aspects such as religious observance and practice, as well as belief."(9) The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (hereafter "EEOC"), defines religious practice to include "moral or ethical beliefs as to what is right and wrong which are sincerely held with the strength of traditional religious views.

https://lc.org/religious-rights-in-the-workplace

STATE RIGHTS FOR EXAMPLE:

ARTICLE I.
BILL OF RIGHTS


SECTION I.
RIGHTS OF PERSONS


Paragraph I. Life, liberty, and property. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property except by due process of law.

Paragraph III. Freedom of conscience. Each person has the natural and inalienable right to worship God, each according to the dictates of that person's own conscience; and no human authority should, in any case, control or interfere with such right of conscience.

Paragraph IV. Religious opinions; freedom of religion. No inhabitant of this state shall be molested in person or property or be prohibited from holding any public office or trust on account of religious opinions; but the right of freedom of religion shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the peace and safety of the state.

https://law.justia.com/constitution/georgia/conart1.html

Right to Conscience in the Bible:

1 Timothy 1:5
New International Version

5 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.


Acts 24:16
New International Version

16 So I strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man.


1 Timothy 3:9
New International Version

9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience.

We shall not discriminate between people.


Galatians 3:28
New International Version

28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

The use of face masks are still not agreed on scientifically and could actually be harmful.

In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2).

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

https://www.technocracy.news/masks-are-neither-effective-nor-safe-a-summary-of-the-science

Results: Where specific information was available, most studies reported about use of medical grade (surgical paper masks). In 3 RCTs, wearing a facemask may very slightly reduce the odds of developing ILI/respiratory symptoms, by around 6% (OR 0.94, 95% CI 0.75 to 1.19, I2 29%, lowcertainty evidence). Greater effectiveness was suggested by observational studies. When both house-mates and an infected household member wore facemasks the odds of further household members becoming ill may be modestly reduced by around 19% (OR 0.81, 95%CI 0.48 to 1.37, I2 45%, 5 RCTs, low certainty evidence). The protective effect was very small if only the well person (OR 0.93, 95% CI 0.68 to 1.28, I2 11%, 2 RCTs, low uncertainty evidence) or the infected person wore the facemask (meager certainty evidence).

—J Brainard, N Jones, et al. Facemasks and similar barriers to prevent respiratory illness such as COVID19: A rapid systematic review. MedRxiv. 2020 Apr 1.

(The most effective study showed that 81% to be at risk of contracting the virus if both house-mates and an infected household member wore face masks. Your risk is only reduced by 19%.

I truly believe to discriminate and strong-arm people to get vaccinated or be required to wear a mask that can be harmful or not even helpful is a violation of the right to conscience, the right to religion, and our liberty.

My conscience feels disgusted in seeing the trend of how unvaccinated people will be treated. It violates my liberty and the liberty of others. The Bible plainly supports the right to conscience and clear against) discrimination. The data isn't set in stone or even in agreement.
 

Nehemiah6

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My conscience feels disgusted in seeing the trend of how unvaccinated people will be treated.
There will need to be thousands of lawsuits to make this go away.

Up to this point 99% of people have been going along with the masking nonsense. Had large numbers refused to go along it could have made a difference. There is no scientific evidence for masking to protect from viruses.
CDC Study Finds Wearing Masks Increases Risk of COVID-19 Infection
In surveying 154 patients who tested positive for the coronavirus, in the previous 14 days before their illness began, 71% reported using either a cloth face covering or a mask “always.” Another 14 % said the wore masks “often,” which adds up to 85%.
https://truthunmuted.org/cdc-study-finds-wearing-masks-increases-risk-of-covid-19-infection/

Now CDC and others are pushing for the *vaccines* when there have been thousands of deaths (at least 15,000 between the US and Europe) because of the *vaccines*.
 

Moses_Young

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Won't it be quite easy to win a discrimination court case based on vaccination status? There's clearly no sound health reason for it.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Won't it be quite easy to win a discrimination court case based on vaccination status? There's clearly no sound health reason for it.
It probably could be if people actually fight it. I am simply laying out a defense for reasons why what the government is doing actually violates our rights as citizens.
 

Roughsoul1991

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There will need to be thousands of lawsuits to make this go away.

Up to this point 99% of people have been going along with the masking nonsense. Had large numbers refused to go along it could have made a difference. There is no scientific evidence for masking to protect from viruses.
CDC Study Finds Wearing Masks Increases Risk of COVID-19 Infection
In surveying 154 patients who tested positive for the coronavirusn the previous 14 days before their illness began, 71% reported using either a cloth face covering or a mask “always.” Another 14 % said they wore masks “often,” which adds up to 85%.
https://truthunmuted.org/cdc-study-finds-wearing-masks-increases-risk-of-covid-19-infection/

Now CDC and others are pushing for the *vaccines* when there have been thousands of deaths (at least 15,000 between the US and Europe) because of the *vaccines*.
Yeah, there are a lot of studies that show masks are mainly ineffective or even harmful. The only ones with some effectiveness are the surgical masks that the CDC advised the public not to buy.
 

Lanolin

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a card is just so people can tell you have had the vaccine, its not like its visible tattoo or anything.
its like a passport or a drivers licence or student ID. If you dont have those then you dont get the discount or whatever.

absolutley nothing to do with religion.
 

Nehemiah6

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SophieT

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a card is just so people can tell you have had the vaccine, its not like its visible tattoo or anything.
its like a passport or a drivers licence or student ID. If you dont have those then you dont get the discount or whatever.

absolutley nothing to do with religion.
you should try to keep up with the facts

churches have had to sue in order to be open

in Canada, pastors have been arrested

this entire false pandemic is about taking freedoms away from people
 

Billyd

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you should try to keep up with the facts

churches have had to sue in order to be open

in Canada, pastors have been arrested

this entire false pandemic is about taking freedoms away from people
I don't know much about Canada, but I do understand what Jesus meant when he told us to obey the government rules.

We have obeyed the government rules, and haven't missed a single, in person Sunday morning worship service. We had to get a little creative to keep our program in compliance, but it worked.

We put some of our community service ministries on hold, and modified others. As of this month, we are back to full service, and are now planning our summer programs.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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My church is planning to open, but for vaccinated only since there are a lot of elderly.
 

Nehemiah6

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this entire false pandemic is about taking freedoms away from people
Exactly. The majority of people (in any free country) have simply gone along with this theft of their fundamental rights and freedoms under their constitutions. The freedom to worship without government interference is a fundamental right, and only Communist and Fascist governments steal that right (e.g. China). But now it turns out that all Western governments have used this BOGUS pandemic to simply grab power and establish tyranny and Fascism. And they targeted churches from the get-go. In Alberta, Canada (where I live) they jailed three law-abiding pastors for ignoring their illegal and unconstitutional directives. Hopefully the courts will hold them innocent, and also heavily fine the governments for their overreach. Almost all the fines connected with ignoring lockdown directives have been thrown out of court.

Had all churches come to an agreement at the very beginning that they would absolutely not allow government interference, and that all governments would have to prove in a court of law that they were justified in robbing their freedoms, no government would have dared lock up millions of law-abiding Christian citizens.

The problem is that many Christians were deluded into thinking that they are obligated to obey draconian laws which have no basis in fact, just because Big Brother said so. But the apostles told the authorities that they must obey God rather than man and went about their business. And they did not even have constitutional protections like we do.

Now we have the same issue with the BOGUS vaccines. Dozens of medical doctors have come out against these dangerous and lethal injections, yet some Christians are willing to be deluded that the "vaccines" are beneficial and should be accepted without question. However absolutely no one is liable for the injuries and deaths, and the consent forms are highly deceptive. Thus about half the healthcare workers (overall) and half the employees of CDC have rejected vaccinations.

Furthermore, the cabal of manipulators who have put the Great Reset (read New World Order deceptively called New Social Contract) into motion have an evil agenda. To manipulate the world's populations into taking the jab. They have even gone so far as to entice kids with ice creams, and adults with lottery tickets and some other questionable inventives. The end game is partly Eugenics and partly depopulation, debilitation of health, and destabilization of societies. But currently there have been over 17,000 deaths in just the USA and Europe, and over 1,000,000 adverse effects which are very serious. And these numbers may not even be truly reflecting the damage. People can check the VAERS and EudraVigilance databases for these numbers (which are being manipulated downwards by CDC).
 
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SophieT

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Almost all the fines connected with ignoring lockdown directives have been thrown out of court.
that's good to hear

Had all churches come to an agreement at the very beginning that they would absolutely not allow government interference, and that all governments would have to prove in a court of law that they were justified in robbing their freedoms, no government would have dared lock up millions of law-abiding Christian citizens.
true. people keep capitulating...just giving in...like baby birds with their mouths open expecting big gov to drop in the food

I am thankful I live in a state where the governor has common sense and is not afraid of the fed gov (FL) I am sure the left is planning their strategy against him even now
 

CherieR

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Not exactly. The whole world is presently worshipping the god called COVID-Moloch, to which children are being sacrificed in several ways, including vaccination. The religion is called The Fear of COVID-Moloch, and you are expected to lay your life on the line to please this god.

COVID-19 Bioweapon Shots Continue to Kill and Maim People Across the World
I don’t believe COVID is a god. I do not believe that getting a vaccine is idol worship. I believe in a person’s right to receive the vaccine or to decline it. I don’t believe people should be discriminated against either way.
 
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SophieT

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My church is planning to open, but for vaccinated only since there are a lot of elderly.
The following excerpt is from an excellent article written by Dr Mercola and he is just one of many doctors who are saying the same thing and whose voices the 'powers that be ..Gates etc) are trying to silence. Mercola has been accused of 'selling' bogus covid cures, but he has exposed the lies of the covid conundrum. I understand that people have opinions but IMO, this is a worldwide planned pandemic that does not stand the test of opinions and people need to do research and not just depend on CNN or Dr. can't tell the truth Fauci, for their version of what they should do

Myth: It’s ‘Impossible to Die From COVID’ After Vaccination
Kamil made some statements that I strongly disagree with, one of them being that if you get a COVID-19 vaccine “it’s almost 100% impossible for you to die from COVID — even if you caught like the scariest variants we know of.” This is simply not true. As of April 26, 2021, there have been 9,245 reported cases of COVID-19 in fully vaccinated individuals, including 132 deaths.17 This is from the CDC’s own data.

There’s also a risk of death from the COVID-19 vaccine. According to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), as of April 23, 2021, there have been 3,544 deaths reported following COVID-19 vaccination.18 Past investigations have shown only between 1%19 and 10%20 of adverse reactions are ever reported to VAERS, which is a passive, voluntary reporting system, so the actual number could be much higher.

Kamil also suggested that if you’re healthy, it makes no difference in terms of getting sick from COVID-19 because “viruses like healthy cells” and “they love a healthy [cell] just like a person might, if you're a carnivore, might like a juicy steak.”

This seriously undermines the power that you have to take control of your health, because, in reality, it’s well known that people who are unhealthy, with underlying conditions, are far more likely to contract and die from COVID-19. Your state of health absolutely matters
 

CherieR

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The following excerpt is from an excellent article written by Dr Mercola and he is just one of many doctors who are saying the same thing and whose voices the 'powers that be ..Gates etc) are trying to silence. Mercola has been accused of 'selling' bogus covid cures, but he has exposed the lies of the covid conundrum. I understand that people have opinions but IMO, this is a worldwide planned pandemic that does not stand the test of opinions and people need to do research and not just depend on CNN or Dr. can't tell the truth Fauci, for their version of what they should do

Myth: It’s ‘Impossible to Die From COVID’ After Vaccination
Kamil made some statements that I strongly disagree with, one of them being that if you get a COVID-19 vaccine “it’s almost 100% impossible for you to die from COVID — even if you caught like the scariest variants we know of.” This is simply not true. As of April 26, 2021, there have been 9,245 reported cases of COVID-19 in fully vaccinated individuals, including 132 deaths.17 This is from the CDC’s own data.

There’s also a risk of death from the COVID-19 vaccine. According to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), as of April 23, 2021, there have been 3,544 deaths reported following COVID-19 vaccination.18 Past investigations have shown only between 1%19 and 10%20 of adverse reactions are ever reported to VAERS, which is a passive, voluntary reporting system, so the actual number could be much higher.

Kamil also suggested that if you’re healthy, it makes no difference in terms of getting sick from COVID-19 because “viruses like healthy cells” and “they love a healthy [cell] just like a person might, if you're a carnivore, might like a juicy steak.”

This seriously undermines the power that you have to take control of your health, because, in reality, it’s well known that people who are unhealthy, with underlying conditions, are far more likely to contract and die from COVID-19. Your state of health absolutely matters
I think that any medication and any vaccine carries with it some form of risk. Oftentimes when I had gotten medicine there is a message in the information that serious side effects are rare and lists potential side effects. I’m not against medications or vaccines. I think people have the right to be informed of potential negative side effects.
 
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SophieT

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I think that any medication and any vaccine carries with it some form of risk. Oftentimes when I had gotten medicine there is a message in the information that serious side effects are rare and lists potential side effects. I’m not against medications or vaccines. I think people have the right to be informed of potential negative side effects.

oh sure. side effects galore in just about everything. information is what is missing in the campaign to get everyone vaxxed

I do not condemn anyone who has received the un-vacc but I surely will not take it myself. I had all the usual vaccs when I was growing up with no bad effects that I am aware of, but those were all properly tested. Back in the day, they would take a vaccine off the market if it killed 25 people and put up a big red flag for 5 deaths. Now, we have thousands of death attributed to this un-vacc, which is actually an experimental treatment, so, as for me, no thank you. :)

The drug companies are immune from any sort of repercussion re this experimental jab. That alone should send up a red flag IMO

further, it is not true that if a person has received the un-vacc, they are safe from Covid. People have contracted covid just the same
 

CherieR

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oh sure. side effects galore in just about everything. information is what is missing in the campaign to get everyone vaxxed

I do not condemn anyone who has received the un-vacc but I surely will not take it myself. I had all the usual vaccs when I was growing up with no bad effects that I am aware of, but those were all properly tested. Back in the day, they would take a vaccine off the market if it killed 25 people and put up a big red flag for 5 deaths. Now, we have thousands of death attributed to this un-vacc, which is actually an experimental treatment, so, as for me, no thank you. :)

The drug companies are immune from any sort of repercussion re this experimental jab. That alone should send up a red flag IMO

further, it is not true that if a person has received the un-vacc, they are safe from Covid. People have contracted covid just the same
There is some information out there about side effects such as on the mayoclinic site. I think it should be more reported by the media/ news stations.