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2Timothy,

I appreciate the compliment and everything you wrote.

Without going into great detail, I seeked like no one I ever met. Over the last 10-15 years while under extreme affliction stress and oppression nonstop.

You and hatedfornoreason if you was given the power and holy spirit which I believe you have, you feel totally safe and accepted.

But no matter how much I wanted God, no matter how much I learned and tried to obey and do what others said, no matter how much I prayed or asked for prayer, God never came to give me the Holy Spirit.

And as we have talked and discussed, the elect chosen always experience the power of the Holy Spirit that alone changes a person acceptably. Without it a person can’t be saved.

So basically I have been tortured all my life from mental physical extreme illness torture and then found that God the creator of me created me to reject me and afflict me with constant hurt. That I never had a chance and He created me to doom me. And that when I prayed for all my family and people I know realizing even tho many abused me with hate while sick, I wanted all to be saved eternally and experience God to love and be changed. But to find that more than likely all of everyone is doomed without a chance even if they wanted God or believe.

So this truth has not been joyful but absolute terror and pain. That the creator created most everyone I know to hate them and not love as I was taught. Even tho a person may be healthy and feel good, if God has not chosen them with Holy Spirit, they are hated cause God only sets His affection on those He chooses.
I do not really know who thought you or is teaching you this. If God could allow his only Son to die for our sake so that we can live, how could he create you for doom.

I see someone loosing hope and faith in God. Just open your heart unto him in sincerity no matter what you are going through, he will definitely make himself known unto you . What you have put across in this post is a false gospel. God loves you so much that all he wants for you is everything good and nothing evil.

Come to think of it, in one of your posts, you thank God for making you one of his elects. How can he doom his elect? Think about it.
 

TheLearner

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maybe making our own paraphrase of John 7 would be in order by those with differing intepretations.
 

posthuman

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We know that Jesus Christ can never lie because it is not in his nature or character, therefore there is no way he could have lied to his brethren. Period. Any interpretation of that scripture that says otherwise is faulty. There is no story of Jesus not telling the truth.
Amen, "in Him there is no lie"

The text gives us information to let us know this, too: He tells the unbelievers seeking to deliver Him to death that "their time is always" and that "the world cannot hate them"
So what is the "time" He is speaking of? time to carry out the physical requirements of the feast of tabernacles? No! That physical aspect is once per year, not "always"
So when He says He's not going "now" is He talking about keeping the feast?
He does keep the feast! He did not break the law.
But He refused to tabernacle with unbelief. He hid Himself from them, going in His own way, until suddenly intonthe temple He comes, with lips speaking knowledge.

What is this a picture of?
It's not arbitrary or accidental. None of these words in John 7 are insignificant. It's the actions of omniscient God.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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maybe making our own paraphrase of John 7 would be in order by those with differing interpretations.
This is highly recommended! If we don't like what the Bible has to say . . . we should just rewrite it! Brilliant! :)

Revelation 22:18-19 YLT - "For I testify to every one hearing the words of the prophecy of this scroll, if any one may add unto these, God shall add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll, and if any one may take away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the scroll of the life, and out of the holy city, and the things that have been written in this scroll . . ."
 

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