The most Amazing End time prophecy of them all

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ZNP

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The most Amazing End time prophecy of them all

There are a lot of candidates:

1. Israel becoming a nation again, that was amazing, can these dry bones live again?

2. The Revelation 12 sign that appeared during Feast of Trumpets in 2017, a sign that has only appeared twice in human history, once at the time of Adam and Eve and another at the time of Jesus birth. Yep, truly amazing.

3. A worldwide pandemic that shuts down the world's economy as prophesied in Joel. Again, another amazing prophecy.

4. Then of course there are those pointing out these fires and floods around the world were also prophesied as a sign of the end of the age.

5. Someone else pointed out we had 10 plagues this summer! OK, that is certainly a candidate.

6. Others talk about the two cows who were born on the Feast of Trumpets in 2014 with 7's on their forehead. Signifying the 7 good years and the 7 lean years of the tribulation from Pharaoh's dream that Joseph interpreted. Yep, that has to be considered as well.

7. Some have posited that the prophecy concerning satellite communications traveling at the speed of light is amazing. (Matt 24:27)

8. The Mark of the Beast, that is a good one.

9. The apostasy, OK, another good one.

But I am going to go with a different prophesy:

Luke 17:26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

With all of these signs going on, with all of these end time dreams (Dana Coverstone), all of these watchmen speaking out warnings, this to me is the most amazing prophecy that so many people could be so oblivious right up until the day the flood comes.
 

Magenta

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I am curious to know what the sign was that appeared during Feast of Trumpets in 2017?

Fires and floods, yes, and wars, and rumors of war...

What were the ten plagues this summer?

Some deny there is even one ;)
 

Blik

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I think the most amazing end time prophecy is given to us in the Feast of the Tabernacles, when the new heavens and new earth are prophesied.
 

ZNP

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I am curious to know what the sign was that appeared during Feast of Trumpets in 2017?

Fires and floods, yes, and wars, and rumors of war...

What were the ten plagues this summer?

Some deny there is even one ;)
The Revelation 12 sign, Virgo was crowned with 12 stars (the planets are called wandering stars), she was clothed with the sun, and Jupiter was in her womb for 9 months.

This sign has never appeared before in human history, at least not exactly like this. A similar though slightly different sign did appear at the time Jesus was born and again a sign similar to this appeared at the time of Adam and Eve and is thought to be the source of the first prophecy (Gen 3:15)
 

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The Revelation 12 sign, Virgo was crowned with 12 stars (the planets are called wandering stars), she was clothed with the sun, and Jupiter was in her womb for 9 months.

This sign has never appeared before in human history, at least not exactly like this. A similar though slightly different sign did appear at the time Jesus was born and again a sign similar to this appeared at the time of Adam and Eve and is thought to be the source of the first prophecy (Gen 3:15)
How can anyone know what the celestial formations were at the time of Adam and Eve?
 

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How can anyone know what the celestial formations were at the time of Adam and Eve?
"...and let them be for sign, seasons, for days, and years."

The heavens are like a timepiece; the original calendar. With the motion of the planets and constellations fixed by math, with software one can cycle back however many years one wants to in order to see what the stars were like...and from any location on earth. Of course, one would need to get the year of Adam & Eve correct though...
 

Magenta

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"...and let them be for sign, seasons, for days, and years."

The heavens are like a timepiece; the original calendar. With the motion of the planets and constellations fixed by math, with software one can cycle back however many years one wants to in order to see what the stars were like...and from any location on earth. Of course, one would need to get the year of Adam & Eve correct though...
Getting the year correct :) Yes! Exactly my point ;):D
 

ZNP

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How can anyone know what the celestial formations were at the time of Adam and Eve?
seriously? They operate like clockwork. We can tell you the location of the full moon, and the eclipses and the location of all the stars going back a thousand years or forward a thousand years.
 

ZNP

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Getting the year correct :) Yes! Exactly my point ;):D
Oh, I get it, the sign appeared about 6,000 years ago (not exactly the same but similar) and so it has been theorized that it was at the time of Adam and Eve and this sign could be described by the Genesis 3:15 prophecy.
 

ZNP

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There are a lot of videos and sharing on this sign.


This video is short and to the point.
 

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The most Amazing End time prophecy of them all

There are a lot of candidates:

1. Israel becoming a nation again, that was amazing, can these dry bones live again?

2. The Revelation 12 sign that appeared during Feast of Trumpets in 2017, a sign that has only appeared twice in human history, once at the time of Adam and Eve and another at the time of Jesus birth. Yep, truly amazing.

3. A worldwide pandemic that shuts down the world's economy as prophesied in Joel. Again, another amazing prophecy.

4. Then of course there are those pointing out these fires and floods around the world were also prophesied as a sign of the end of the age.

5. Someone else pointed out we had 10 plagues this summer! OK, that is certainly a candidate.

6. Others talk about the two cows who were born on the Feast of Trumpets in 2014 with 7's on their forehead. Signifying the 7 good years and the 7 lean years of the tribulation from Pharaoh's dream that Joseph interpreted. Yep, that has to be considered as well.

7. Some have posited that the prophecy concerning satellite communications traveling at the speed of light is amazing. (Matt 24:27)

8. The Mark of the Beast, that is a good one.

9. The apostasy, OK, another good one.

But I am going to go with a different prophesy:

Luke 17:26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

With all of these signs going on, with all of these end time dreams (Dana Coverstone), all of these watchmen speaking out warnings, this to me is the most amazing prophecy that so many people could be so oblivious right up until the day the flood comes.

Needs work. Maybe try fleshing it out with a bible study on each topic above??
 

Magenta

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seriously? They operate like clockwork. We can tell you the location of the full moon, and the
eclipses and the location of all the stars going back a thousand years or forward a thousand years.
Yes, I do understand that part, but the thing is, how could anyone say with any certainty what year it was when Adam and Eve were in the garden? We do not even know with certainty which year it was Jesus was born, nor the month, despite any signs that may have been present. Along the same lines, I do very much appreciate knowing it was a cosmological impossibility for the darkness that covered the land at the time of Jesus' death to have been caused by a solar eclipse, which rather negates any "natural" explanation for it :)
 

ZNP

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Yes, I do understand that part, but the thing is, how could anyone say with any certainty what year it was when Adam and Eve were in the garden? We do not even know with certainty which year it was Jesus was born, nor the month, despite any signs that may have been present. Along the same lines, I do very much appreciate knowing it was a cosmological impossibility for the darkness that covered the land at the time of Jesus' death to have been caused by a solar eclipse, which rather negates any "natural" explanation for it :)
See post #9
 

ZNP

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"Theorized" is not saying with any certainty... more like a stab in the dark LOL :giggle:
Fair enough what we can say with certainty is that the Revelation 12 sign appeared on September 23, 2017 during the Feast of Trumpets, that this is the first time it has appeared since John wrote the book of Revelation and that it will not appear for another thousand years. Better?
 

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Ahwatukee

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The most Amazing End time prophecy of them all

There are a lot of candidates:

1. Israel becoming a nation again, that was amazing, can these dry bones live again?

2. The Revelation 12 sign that appeared during Feast of Trumpets in 2017, a sign that has only appeared twice in human history, once at the time of Adam and Eve and another at the time of Jesus birth. Yep, truly amazing.
Hello ZNP,

The key to understanding the chronological time-line in Revelation is given in Rev.1:19 when the Lord told John to write:

What you have seen = everything written from Rev.1:1 thru 1:19

What is Now = Represented by the letters to the seven churches and which represents the entire church period

What will take place Later = Everything that takes place after the "What is Now," i.e. after the church period

In Rev.4:1 John hears the same voice like a trumpet (The Lord's voice) saying "Come up here and I will show you what must take place after this" which is synonymous with the "What must take place later" that John was told to write.

Revelation 4:1 is a prophetic allusion to where the church is gathered. Therefore, everything from Rev.4:1 onward is still future, as we are still living in the "What is Now" portion of what John was told to write. Once the church has been gathered, then the "What must take place later" will begin. All that said, Revelation 12 is a symbolic description of Israel as the woman (Gen.37:9-10) and Satan as the dragon. Satan and his angels being cast out of heaven to the earth is the result of the 7th trumpet/3rd woe and that certainly hasn't happened.

The seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will be unprecedented plagues of wrath directly from God. And since they will take place in the chronological order they appear in Revelation, if you have the 7th trumpet having taken place in 2017 as you say, then we would have had to have seen all of the seals and trumpets that take place before them. For example: At the sounding of the 5th trumpet, an angel having the key to the Abyss opens it releasing all of those demonic beings resembling locusts and horses prepared for battle to torment the inhabitants of the earth for five months having stings like that of a scorpion. Yet, the world has experienced no such plague. Likewise, at the sounding of the 6th trumpet, the four angels that are currently bound in the area of the Euphrates River are released to kill a third of the inhabitants on the earth with their demonic army of 200 million. When did we see a third of the population killed? The answer would be, Never! I could go on with the 4th seal where Death and Hades are given authority to kill a fourth of the earth's population, as well as with the rest of the plagues of wrath. None of those plagues of wrath have taken place.

The first seal rider on the white horse which initiates God's wrath and which symbolically represents the emergence of the antichrist, has certainly not been revealed.

But the most important issue is that, the church is not appointed to suffer God's coming wrath. Consequently, by having the 7th trumpet taking place in 2017, you would have put the church through the majority of God's wrath. In fact, we have seen none of the events that take place via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. And where did we see the two witnesses and their plagues that are to take place during the first 3 1/2 years of the tribulation? If Rev.12/7th trumpet took place in 2017, surly we would have seen the two witnesses.

Being that Revelation 4 is the beginning of the "What must take place later" then everything from Revelation 4 is still future. Once the church has been gathered, then the "What must take place later" will begin.

Many people have a watered-down version of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. However, they will take place with the destructive and fatal force, just as described. By the time that God's wrath has completed, the majority of the earth's population will have been decimated and all human government dismantled.
 

Ahwatukee

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The Revelation 12 sign, Virgo was crowned with 12 stars (the planets are called wandering stars), she was clothed with the sun, and Jupiter was in her womb for 9 months.

This sign has never appeared before in human history, at least not exactly like this. A similar though slightly different sign did appear at the time Jesus was born and again a sign similar to this appeared at the time of Adam and Eve and is thought to be the source of the first prophecy (Gen 3:15)
The Woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and wearing a crown of twelve starts in Revelation 12:1 needs no cosmic allegorical interpretation. God's word gives us the answer to these same symbols in Genesis 37:9-10:

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Then Joseph had another dream and told it to his brothers. “Look,” he said, “I had another dream, and this time the sun and moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.”

He told his father and brothers, but his father rebuked him and said, “What is this dream that you have had? Will your mother and brothers and I actually come and bow down to the ground before you?
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Sun = Jacob

Moon = Wife/wives

Eleven Stars = Eleven of the twelve tribes of Israel, with Joseph being the twelve star


The sun, moon and twelve stars, then represent the nation Israel as a whole.

Allow Scripture support Scripture. There is not need to go after a cosmic interpretation.

Therefore, the woman clothed with the sun (Jacob), with the moon under her feet (wife/wives) and wearing a crown of twelves stars (twelve tribes of Israel), the the woman of Revelation 12 symbolically represents the nation Israel.
 

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And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
Zechariah 13:9 KJV



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