Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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iamsoandso

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iamsoandso How do we know who 2 believe?We seem 2 suffer from analysis paralysis.

Just don't catch it and it wont matter if they were wrong or right. Everyone's trying to figure out how to catch it and keep the money in Babylon flowing instead of trying to figure out how to not catch it. "If I get the vaccine I get to catch it and keep on as normal" ,,,,verses ,,,"If I catch it then maybe I'll be immune and can keep on making money and doing things as normal" Either way it goes they've got both sides talked into catching it and nobody's realized not to catch it at all...
 
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Just don't catch it and it wont matter if they were wrong or right. Everyone's trying to figure out how to catch it and keep the money in Babylon flowing instead of trying to figure out how to not catch it. "If I get the vaccine I get to catch it and keep on as normal" ,,,,verses ,,,"If I catch it then maybe I'll be immune and can keep on making money and doing things as normal" Either way it goes they've got both sides talked into catching it and nobody's realized not to catch it at all...
What would Jesus do?
 

iamsoandso

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What would Jesus do?

He would avoid catching it and those who have it would stay outside the camp like what he said to do about illnesses In Leviticus. So he's already told us what to do,,avoid it,,separate from those who have it,,clean the things they touched ect.
 

JohnDB

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iamsoandso How do we know who 2 believe?We seem 2 suffer from analysis paralysis.
This study involved only 4 people...

Meaning that it isn't conclusive... only that it's an area that might be a good idea to have a large scale study for. That's what these small scale studies are for.

And likely it will be studied.

Because C-19 is an endocrine system virus every portion of the human endocrine system, post infection, is going to be studied thoroughly.

Eventually we will know more about what long term side effects this virus is going to create....ED, sterility, birth defects, thyroid, insulins, and kidneys and etc will be studied...

Surviving C-19 is not the major issue....it's the permanent harm that this virus causes people...and that can very well be the problems associated with the next generation.

There can be temporary harm, eventually overcome, or permanent harm that you have to live with for the rest of your life. It's not a respiratory (pulmonary) system virus like influenza. However strongly that myth is being repeated it's simply not true. Endocrine systems are in EVERY organ in the body including nervous system.

There's a reason why people lose taste and smell...that's because the nervous system has been attacked by the virus. Eyesight and autonomic motor functions are usually the last in a nervous system to be damaged but cognitive function is usually second.

Just saying...just because you don't end up sucking on an oxygen bottle doesn't mean that you have not suffered permanent damage from this virus.
 
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Beautiful - this is why from Day 1 of the announcements of the Plandemic in 2020 (USA) i told everyone to not believe their agenda.
i did not run and hide, i did not wear masks, i did not stop my daily interaction with people, never feared the 'six feet' distancing, i hugged my friends, shook hands and LIVED in FAITH - not Fear. i am not a young man either.

My 76 year old father-in-law with Parkinsons, who we take care of, contracted Covid-19 was in the hospital and fully recovered.
My whole family contracted Covid as well and it we all fully recovered just as in the past from colds, flu and other sicknesses.
We are stronger, healthier today and we REJECT the propaganda and experimental vaxx.
NO EXPERIMENTS PERMITTED on THIS TEMPLE of GOD.

The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, To turn one away from the snares of death. Proverbs 14:27
versus
The fear of man is a snare - Proverbs
 
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i think Jesus would heal them. we should heal them. Having a sickness dos not "for say"make u unclean.Jesus was not there for the well but the sick.
 

Yahshua

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He would avoid catching it and those who have it would stay outside the camp like what he said to do about illnesses In Leviticus. So he's already told us what to do,,avoid it,,separate from those who have it,,clean the things they touched ect.
So to troubleshoot the problem just check the owner's manual?

I tell ya...Pharisees always find a way to bring the law into the conversation. SOME PEOPLE, PFFT!

:D

(I couldn't resist lol)
 

CS1

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I understand that non-moderators get banned for spouting anger and slurs like that.
the full context of my post is 1. those who support democratic talking points are known as snowflakes. If I offend you forgive me.

2. hypocrite is not a slur, from your post it is my opinion of your statements when I said them as I address them. Go back and reread your own comments, or do you need me to provide them for you?
 

JTB

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Just don't catch it and it wont matter if they were wrong or right. Everyone's trying to figure out how to catch it and keep the money in Babylon flowing instead of trying to figure out how to not catch it. "If I get the vaccine I get to catch it and keep on as normal" ,,,,verses ,,,"If I catch it then maybe I'll be immune and can keep on making money and doing things as normal" Either way it goes they've got both sides talked into catching it and nobody's realized not to catch it at all...
And when you don't know who has it, what do you do to not catch it? Actually I've never seen or heard anyone say to go catch it. Isn't preventing catching it what all the argument is about?
 

CS1

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lol liberal theology. human reasoning that takes the word of God out of Context.

Yes God protects us but Christians go to war because of the state of sin in the war. We may have to kill somebody and many of us have already due to war. God is sovereign and HE has chosen us by which to help others and it means going to war sometimes.

This is what I mean with foolishness as the above meme:

the same people who post this pay car insurance why God protects you? Foolishness.

Do you have medical coverage, why? God will protect you?

Do YOU have a job? Why God is your provider is HE not?

Then those get mad when one points out the foolishness they display over and over again.
 

JTB

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He would avoid catching it and those who have it would stay outside the camp like what he said to do about illnesses In Leviticus. So he's already told us what to do,,avoid it,,separate from those who have it,,clean the things they touched ect.
But with so many asymptomatic cases how do you know who has it. And if you think getting people to mask and distance 6 feet is a nightmare, what's going to happen when you tell them they have to leave town?
 
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And when you don't know who has it, what do you do to not catch it? Actually I've never seen or heard anyone say to go catch it. Isn't preventing catching it what all the argument is about?
[no he right.] in that, some vacs work by introducing a small amount of the virus to generate a immune response
 

JTB

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the full context of my post is 1. those who support democratic talking points are known as snowflakes. If I offend you forgive me.

2. hypocrite is not a slur, from your post it is my opinion of your statements when I said them as I address them. Go back and reread your own comments, or do you need me to provide them for you?
1. I ain't no democrat. Haven't voted for a democrat or republican since Ross Perot made his run. Both parties take their marching orders from the same source - satan. Both roads lead to the same end - tribulation. Both roads deceive. But only one deceives in the name of god.

2. You think I made conflicting statements? Perhaps you need to re-read them. The Bible is full of (seemingly) conflicting statements. Does that mean the Bible is hypocritical, or that maybe we misunderstood something?
2a. Does everything have to be either/or? Can't the truth be found somewhere in between? Covid is a real disease, it has real effects upon real people (ask my wife). And we should take real steps to protect those people. That said, yes the enemy is also using it to condition people for the day the motb enters play. Those aren't conflicting statements. One does not negate the other. You've just been trained to think they do. Another ploy of the enemy.

3. Dude. I've never seen anger and vitriol listed as fruits of the Spirit. Your outrageously emotional response tells me you're letting your emotions do your thinking. That's just as dangerous on the right as it is on the left.

May the peace of the lord retake you.
 

JTB

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lol liberal theology. human reasoning that takes the word of God out of Context.

Yes God protects us but Christians go to war because of the state of sin in the war. We may have to kill somebody and many of us have already due to war. God is sovereign and HE has chosen us by which to help others and it means going to war sometimes.

This is what I mean with foolishness as the above meme:

the same people who post this pay car insurance why God protects you? Foolishness.

Do you have medical coverage, why? God will protect you?

Do YOU have a job? Why God is your provider is HE not?

Then those get mad when one points out the foolishness they display over and over again.
So you buy car insurance, you buy medical, you get a job, you buy a gun (never saw Jesus with an AK, His weapons are spiritual but ok) because that's what a prudent believer does. Why does that stop at measures to slow the spread?
 
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1. I ain't no democrat. Haven't voted for a democrat or republican since Ross Perot made his run. Both parties take their marching orders from the same source - satan. Both roads lead to the same end - tribulation. Both roads deceive. But only one deceives in the name of god.

2. You think I made conflicting statements? Perhaps you need to re-read them. The Bible is full of (seemingly) conflicting statements. Does that mean the Bible is hypocritical, or that maybe we misunderstood something?
2a. Does everything have to be either/or? Can't the truth be found somewhere in between? Covid is a real disease, it has real effects upon real people (ask my wife). And we should take real steps to protect those people. That said, yes the enemy is also using it to condition people for the day the motb enters play. Those aren't conflicting statements. One does not negate the other. You've just been trained to think they do. Another ploy of the enemy.

3. Dude. I've never seen anger and vitriol listed as fruits of the Spirit. Your outrageously emotional response tells me you're letting your emotions do your thinking. That's just as dangerous on the right as it is on the left.

May the peace of the lord retake you.
Be angry but sin not
 
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Can you show me where that is in the Bible? And show me where anger is a fruit of the spirit.
k so your right..maybe? but here's the scipt,,,[Eph 4:26 ]Be ye angry, and sin not,[Psalms 4:4]
 

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What i find strange is most anti-vaxxers who say it's the mark of the Beast are evangelical fundamentalists and they generally believe in the pre-trib rapture, so as the MOTB is after the rapture (in that view) how can it be the Mark. As for it being a pre-cursor to the NWO well so is everything in the control system of this world, where the Devil is the ruler, so you'd need to stop banking, not use money, not use social media, not go to school, not use medications or health care or the welfare system ect ect. so you'd have to go and live off grid in a cave for the rest of your life.
I have not been vaccinated and don't plan to be. However, I don't think it is the mark of the beast. I sure hope not, at least. Almost all of my family, who are good Christian people, have been vaccinated so I really don't think it is the mark of the beast. However, it could be leading up to the mark of the beast.

There have been many side effects due to the vaccine and not enough research and time to evaluate its safety. One of my family members is suffering a devastating adverse effect due to the vaccine.

So at this point, I plan to take my chances and trust solely in God.

That being said, I have been a little sick a few times. I think it is just allergies and not anything any worse, but like I said I'm just putting it all in the hands of the Lord.

I also don't believe in a pre-trib rapture, and some of what you posted there is my main concern for anyone that does believe in Pre-trib rapture. The MoB will eventually come and when it does we have already been warned what will happen if we take it.

As far as people believing in the Pre-trib rapture and still thinking the vaccine is the mark of the beast...I don't get that, either. Maybe the Lord is trying to get them prepared in the event they are wrong about Pre-trib so that they won't be misled ....IDK...but it is puzzling?
 

CS1

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1. I ain't no democrat. Haven't voted for a democrat or republican since Ross Perot made his run. Both parties take their marching orders from the same source - satan. Both roads lead to the same end - tribulation. Both roads deceive. But only one deceives in the name of god.

2. You think I made conflicting statements? Perhaps you need to re-read them. The Bible is full of (seemingly) conflicting statements. Does that mean the Bible is hypocritical, or that maybe we misunderstood something?
2a. Does everything have to be either/or? Can't the truth be found somewhere in between? Covid is a real disease, it has real effects upon real people (ask my wife). And we should take real steps to protect those people. That said, yes the enemy is also using it to condition people for the day the motb enters play. Those aren't conflicting statements. One does not negate the other. You've just been trained to think they do. Another ploy of the enemy.

3. Dude. I've never seen anger and vitriol listed as fruits of the Spirit. Your outrageously emotional response tells me you're letting your emotions do your thinking. That's just as dangerous on the right as it is on the left.

May the peace of the lord retake you.
lol " I'm all ears " Perot.

Here is the issue you are saying those who do not get the vax are unloving. You agree with the state mandates and restrictions. OK I don't and I too have had COVID-19 and many people I know have died from it. The mask doesn't help sound science has proven that.

in the winter of 2020 the cold and flu did not show up last year because of COVID-19 over 300, 000 die every year from the Cold and Flu. Everything is COVID-19 hit by a car and die it was COVID-19. I have peace :) and I have not been given a spirit of fear. Nor will I be bullied by those like you. Nor will I be shamed as unloving because I disagree with your willingness to bow to the god of the Goverment
 

JTB

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k so your right..maybe? but here's the scipt,,,[Eph 4:26 ]Be ye angry, and sin not,[Psalms 4:4]
"Eph 4:25 Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body. 26 “In your anger do not sin”: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, 27 and do not give the devil a foothold."

Hmmm, this seems to be against being angry, as it gives the devil a foothold on you

"Psalm 4:4 Tremble and do not sin; when you are on your beds, search your hearts and be silent. "

Nope, angry people are seldom silent.

Care to try for 3?
 
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