What Does It Mean to “Blame” the Unvaccinated Who Get COVID?

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BY JOSHUA STEIN
AUG 03, 202112:31 PM

As cases of the coronavirus (especially the delta variant) swell, there are constant stories of people who flouted vaccination and general public health guidance and then got sick. An attendee of Hillsong Church who refused to get vaccinated dies of coronavirus; a radio host who mocked vaccinations on the air is under intensive care. These stories often provoke anger.

Even politicians who actively politicized public health measures are now frantically trying to encourage vaccination in their communities. Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has talked about “blaming the unvaccinated” for the increase in cases and is trying to rebrand the “Trump vaccines” in a push to motivate uptake among Republicans, while simultaneously banning universities and other public institutions from requiring proof of coronavirus vaccination.

Blame typically entails that some punishment or adverse consequence is justified. Pam Keith, a former Democratic nominee for a Florida congressional seat, echoed a sentiment common on Twitter: that we should suspend government benefits to unvaccinated people. Others suggest that perhaps insurance companies should increase premiums for those who decline vaccination; a nurse told the New York Times, “If you choose not to be part of the solution, then you should be accountable for the consequences.”



https://slate.com/technology/2021/08/unvaccinated-covid-blame-health-insurance.html
 
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Think first on a micro level.

If an entire household is vaccinated except one person, who also happens to be unhealthy and/or elderly and hesitant about vaccines, the remaining household members are limited in their outdoor activities (can't resume "normal" life) because they do not want to infect the unhealthy/elderly family member. The health "experts" have made it clear up front the vaccines are not as effective for certain people such as the immuno-compromised and elderly (hence why they are now recommending a third booster shot for those people to build antibodies); this is no surprise. However, if the unhealthy and/or elderly is vaccinated, he can still get sick but is less likely to be hospitalized/die.

Now on a macro level...

Imagine a large work building of 500 people where 200 hesitant people are unvaccinated because they are concerned about side effects, etc. And let's say of the 200 unvaccinated, 50 people are unhealthy (elderly, diabetic, obese, COPD, on immuno drugs), etc. Should these 50 people just quit their jobs and collect welfare (and for their families if they are the sole provider)? Others have to tiptoe around the unvaccinated, especially those who have not had COVID or who have not handled COVID well, since they don't want them to end up in the hospital. Especially now with the Delta strain, even the vaccinated carry a high viral load (though they are less likely to be severely ill) and can easily infect the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated person is also sick for a longer period, and especially if a large number are unvaccinated, this can impact business efficiency because they will all get sick at the same time if they get sit together. Also, aside from a few anecdotes, data recorded by states indicate that most of the hospitalized are unvaccinated.
 
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BY JOSHUA STEIN
AUG 03, 202112:31 PM

As cases of the coronavirus (especially the delta variant) swell, there are constant stories of people who flouted vaccination and general public health guidance and then got sick. An attendee of Hillsong Church who refused to get vaccinated dies of coronavirus; a radio host who mocked vaccinations on the air is under intensive care. These stories often provoke anger.

Even politicians who actively politicized public health measures are now frantically trying to encourage vaccination in their communities. Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has talked about “blaming the unvaccinated” for the increase in cases and is trying to rebrand the “Trump vaccines” in a push to motivate uptake among Republicans, while simultaneously banning universities and other public institutions from requiring proof of coronavirus vaccination.

Blame typically entails that some punishment or adverse consequence is justified. Pam Keith, a former Democratic nominee for a Florida congressional seat, echoed a sentiment common on Twitter: that we should suspend government benefits to unvaccinated people. Others suggest that perhaps insurance companies should increase premiums for those who decline vaccination; a nurse told the New York Times, “If you choose not to be part of the solution, then you should be accountable for the consequences.”



https://slate.com/technology/2021/08/unvaccinated-covid-blame-health-insurance.html
I think if a family member or friend is telling you to get vaccinated, it is coming from love. But, I do think politicians (especially Democrats) want the unvaccinated (who are primarily Trump supporters) to get vaccinated in part to crack down on them (not coming from love). Again, it is easier to understand if we look at the micro level. In households which have a combo of vaxxed and unvaxxed, there is some anger from the vaxxed because they are being prevented from going out and living "normal" life. There is a subconscious worry that the unvaxxed (stubborn) family member may be put on a ventilator.
 

Gideon300

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BY JOSHUA STEIN
AUG 03, 202112:31 PM

As cases of the coronavirus (especially the delta variant) swell, there are constant stories of people who flouted vaccination and general public health guidance and then got sick. An attendee of Hillsong Church who refused to get vaccinated dies of coronavirus; a radio host who mocked vaccinations on the air is under intensive care. These stories often provoke anger.

Even politicians who actively politicized public health measures are now frantically trying to encourage vaccination in their communities. Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has talked about “blaming the unvaccinated” for the increase in cases and is trying to rebrand the “Trump vaccines” in a push to motivate uptake among Republicans, while simultaneously banning universities and other public institutions from requiring proof of coronavirus vaccination.

Blame typically entails that some punishment or adverse consequence is justified. Pam Keith, a former Democratic nominee for a Florida congressional seat, echoed a sentiment common on Twitter: that we should suspend government benefits to unvaccinated people. Others suggest that perhaps insurance companies should increase premiums for those who decline vaccination; a nurse told the New York Times, “If you choose not to be part of the solution, then you should be accountable for the consequences.”



https://slate.com/technology/2021/08/unvaccinated-covid-blame-health-insurance.html
There is nothing new about this. It's human nature. I know a nurse who thought that lung cancer patients who smoked should not get treatment. That's harsh, especially as lung cancer is a death sentence. Who does deserve mercy and grace? How about those like me who wrestled with the idea of having the vaccination? I had a bad experience with flu vaccine. What if I'd caught COVID while I thought about it?

I'm just glad that God is not like us. He is merciful and gracious. He is loving and kind. He knows the "why" behind the "what". People are quick to judge. It's the sin nature on full display.
 

p_rehbein

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It means that the person blaming the unvaccinated for Covid is ignorant and not worthy of listening to.
 

Genipher

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It means the unvaccinated are becoming the scapegoat for a "vaccine" that doesn't really work.
 

Icedaisey

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BY JOSHUA STEIN
AUG 03, 202112:31 PM

As cases of the coronavirus (especially the delta variant) swell, there are constant stories of people who flouted vaccination and general public health guidance and then got sick. An attendee of Hillsong Church who refused to get vaccinated dies of coronavirus; a radio host who mocked vaccinations on the air is under intensive care. These stories often provoke anger.

Even politicians who actively politicized public health measures are now frantically trying to encourage vaccination in their communities. Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has talked about “blaming the unvaccinated” for the increase in cases and is trying to rebrand the “Trump vaccines” in a push to motivate uptake among Republicans, while simultaneously banning universities and other public institutions from requiring proof of coronavirus vaccination.

Blame typically entails that some punishment or adverse consequence is justified. Pam Keith, a former Democratic nominee for a Florida congressional seat, echoed a sentiment common on Twitter: that we should suspend government benefits to unvaccinated people. Others suggest that perhaps insurance companies should increase premiums for those who decline vaccination; a nurse told the New York Times, “If you choose not to be part of the solution, then you should be accountable for the consequences.”



https://slate.com/technology/2021/08/unvaccinated-covid-blame-health-insurance.html
A long practiced method known as the, "Divide and Rule" strategy. Also known as, Divide and Conquer.

A friend sent me an email and included this paste. He told me to just substitute COVID-19 and vaccine where appropriate to get a better handle on the strategy behind the current vaccine push in America.
I did. If you do so as well it may help make the push make more sense. Hey, worked for the Nazi's. At least for awhile.

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials