PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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Smoke

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BREAKING – 30,305 people died within 21 days of having a Covid-19 Vaccine in England during the first 6 months of 2021 according to ONS data
BY DAILY EXPOSE ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2021

https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/15/30k...days-of-having-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-england/
The UK reported 700,000 deaths in 2020. 700,000/365 = ~1900/day, 1900x21 days - 39,900 deaths.

Before you make a claim, you should be able to back it up with proof and/or evidence if you want to be taken seriously. There's a difference between saying "30,305 people died after taking the vaccine" versus "30,305 died because of the vaccine".

I know you didn't understand the first time... CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION.
 

Smoke

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Very compassionate of you, no there are no unemployment benefits for those of us who refuse the vaccine.
It's not personal and I do have compassion for you in that I think it's wrong they are making you choose. However, that isn't what unemployment benefits are for... We already have enough incentives for people to stay out of work. We need to get people back to work.

I'll pray you and your wife find employment where they don't make you take something that could potentially save your life.
 

ZNP

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It's not personal and I do have compassion for you in that I think it's wrong they are making you choose. However, that isn't what unemployment benefits are for... We already have enough incentives for people to stay out of work. We need to get people back to work.
Don't worry all the immigrants coming across the border will be taken care of with various government programs and they are not required to get the vaccine. This requirement is only for Americans and no, they won't waste federal assistance on them.
 

Smoke

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Idaho doctor reports a ‘20 times increase’ of cancer in vaccinated patients

'Post-vaccine, what we are seeing is a drop in your killer T-cells, in your CD8 cells,” said Dr. Ryan Cole.

Jack Bingham

Mon Sep 13, 2021 - 6:57 am EDT
BOISE, Idaho (LifeSiteNews) — A doctor has found an increase in cancers since the COVID-19 inoculation rollout.

On March 18, Dr. Ryan Cole, a board-certified pathologist and owner and operator of a diagnostics lab, reported to the public in a video produced by Idaho state government’s “Capitol Clarity” project, that he is seeing a massive ‘uptick’ in various autoimmune diseases and cancers in patients who have been vaccinated.

“Since January 1, in the laboratory, I’m seeing a 20 times increase of endometrial cancers over what I see on an annual basis,” reported Dr. Cole in the video clip shared on Twitter.

“I’m not exaggerating at all because I look at my numbers year over year, I’m like ‘Gosh, I’ve never seen this many endometrial cancers before’,” he continued.

Explaining his findings at the March 18 event, Cole told Idahoans that the vaccines seem to be causing serious autoimmune issues, in a way he described as a “reverse HIV” response.

Cole explained that two types of cells are required for adequate immune system function: “Helper T-cells,” also called “CD4 cells,” and “killer T-cells,” often known as “CD8 cells.”

According to Cole, in patients with HIV, there is a massive suppression of “helper T-cells” which cause immune system functions to plummet, and leave the patient susceptible to a variety of illnesses.

Similarly, Cole describes, “post-vaccine, what we are seeing is a drop in your killer T-cells, in your CD8 cells,”

“And what do CD8 cells do? They keep all other viruses in check,” he said.

Much like HIV causes immune system disruption by suppressing CD4 “helper” cells, the same thing happens when CD8 “killer” cells are suppressed. In Dr. Cole’s expert view, this is what seems to be the case with the COVID-19 jabs.

Cole goes on to state that as a result of this vaccine-induced “killer T-cell” suppression, he is seeing an “uptick” of not only endometrial cancer, but also melanomas, as well as herpes, shingles, mono, and a “huge uptick” in HPV when “looking at the cervical biopsies of women.”


This is not the first time the COVID-19 vaccines have been linked to serious issues regarding women’s health.

According to a German research study, polyethylene glycol, an ingredient found in the Pfizer and Moderna jabs, has been found to pose a “potential toxicity risk” to women’s ovaries.

Dr. Michael Yeadon, a former vice president at Pfizer, has cited the German study as a possible explanation for the large number of menstrual irregularities and miscarriages being reported by vaccinated women.

Yeadon warns young women to avoid the vaccine for, in his expert opinion as a toxicologist, the shots will likely impede a woman’s ability to get pregnant and carry a baby to term.

Dr. Cole states in his video that, not only are melanomas showing up more frequently, like endometrial cancers, the melanomas are also developing more rapidly, and are more severe in younger people, than he has ever previously witnessed.

“Most concerning of all, there is a pattern of these types of immune cells in the body keeping cancer in check,” stated the doctor.

“I’m seeing invasive melanomas in younger patients; normally we catch those early, and they are thin melanomas, [but] I’m seeing thick melanomas skyrocketing in the last month or two,” he added.

Cole came into prominence in January of 2021 when the Idaho government put in place an effort called “Capitol Clarity,” with the stated goal of keeping Idahoans informed about the facts surrounding COVID-19.

Capitol Clarity has since hosted Dr. Ryan Cole multiple times to provide information to the public about vaccine safety and COVID-19 measures more broadly.

The videos of Dr. Cole at these events, which were originally posted on YouTube, have since been deleted by the Google owned video platform in a continual effort of censorship by Big Tech.

“You’re not being told the truth,” said Yeadon “Thinking about this, I try to imagine that I was speaking to my own young adult daughters, for whom I would be very concerned if they got these vaccines.”
Everything seems to be up by roughly 20%...
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"Overall, the researchers found an estimated 3,358,814 deaths occurred in the United States in 2020—up by 17.7% from 2,854,838 deaths in 2019. "
 

Smoke

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I guess i could make a factual claim just like some of these alt right "news sources" some of you are posting...

Fact: Over 3,000,000 [covid] UNVACCINATED Americans died in 2020.
Let's ignore the fact that while the vaccine did come out in Dec. of 2020, most Americans didn't even have a chance to get the vaccine until 2021 or the fact that just because they were unvaccinated that means they automatically died from covid. We can play word games and skew data to fit our agenda/narrative... it doesn't make us anymore correct in our beliefs. But whatever makes you feel good posting bogus claim after bogus claim.
 

ZNP

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I guess i could make a factual claim just like some of these alt right "news sources" some of you are posting...



Let's ignore the fact that while the vaccine did come out in Dec. of 2020, most Americans didn't even have a chance to get the vaccine until 2021 or the fact that just because they were unvaccinated that means they automatically died from covid. We can play word games and skew data to fit our agenda/narrative... it doesn't make us anymore correct in our beliefs. But whatever makes you feel good posting bogus claim after bogus claim.
Wow, well from what I have seen the survival rate is around 99%, so this would indicate that 300 million Americans got covid, 3 million died, and now 297 million are now immune. So then why are we worried about herd immunity, hoorah! we are there!

Of course your little cutesy quote said nothing about how or why they died. Since we have 360 million people in America you would assume that at least 1% would die each year otherwise our average life expectancy would be higher than 100 years.

I suppose your point is that most Americans simply turn off their brain when they see numbers.
 

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Don't worry all the immigrants coming across the border will be taken care of with various government programs and they are not required to get the vaccine. This requirement is only for Americans and no, they won't waste federal assistance on them.
I was actually thinking they'd take all the jobs after those that refuse the vaccine are forced to quit.
 

ZNP

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I was actually thinking they'd take all the jobs after those that refuse the vaccine are forced to quit.
Maybe, do they have a master's degree in both Education and science? If so they would be qualified. Or are you suggesting they'll drop the standards?
 

Genipher

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Shot or no shot is your choice. Job or no job is your employer's choice.

We have young people who survived covid19 last year in the hospital today with it.
Actually, it's not our employeer's choice when they're mandated by the President of the United States to have all workers vaccinated or face a 14k/employee/day fine.
That's not a choice.
That's blackmail.
 

Genipher

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Maybe, do they have a master's degree in both Education and science? If so they would be qualified. Or are you suggesting they'll drop the standards?
Haven't they already? Lol

My husband was a college math teacher. It's scary how little many so-called engineers and nurses learn and understand but still get those diplomas!
 

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The UK reported 700,000 deaths in 2020. 700,000/365 = ~1900/day, 1900x21 days - 39,900 deaths.

Before you make a claim, you should be able to back it up with proof and/or evidence if you want to be taken seriously. There's a difference between saying "30,305 people died after taking the vaccine" versus "30,305 died because of the vaccine".

I know you didn't understand the first time... CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION.
Except when it comes to the guy that jumps out of a plane with no parachute, and his corpse tests positive for Covid, and is listed as a Covid death. Huh?
 

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So then if you are vaccinated you have nothing to worry about, great, we can all go about our business and stop this nonsense about mandating the vaccine.
What?
And let the antivaxxers increase the placebo effect of dying by mRNA vaccines?

Not hardly.

Next thing you know they will be claiming Fruit Loops and Captain Crunch are bad for you.
 

ZNP

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What?
And let the antivaxxers increase the placebo effect of dying by mRNA vaccines?

Not hardly.

Next thing you know they will be claiming Fruit Loops and Captain Crunch are bad for you.
Fair enough let all the vaccinated eat all the fruit loops and Captain Crunch they want. They were willing to take the kill shot, their days are numbered, surely we can give them this one little treat.
 

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Except when it comes to the guy that jumps out of a plane with no parachute, and his corpse tests positive for Covid, and is listed as a Covid death. Huh?
Is this hyperbole Penn or did this really happen?
 

Smoke

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Wow, well from what I have seen the survival rate is around 99%, so this would indicate that 300 million Americans got covid, 3 million died, and now 297 million are now immune. So then why are we worried about herd immunity, hoorah! we are there!

Of course your little cutesy quote said nothing about how or why they died. Since we have 360 million people in America you would assume that at least 1% would die each year otherwise our average life expectancy would be higher than 100 years.

I suppose your point is that most Americans simply turn off their brain when they see numbers.
Actually my point was that people misuse statistics to fit their narrative. They act like manipulating the numbers and ignoring context, that their "data" is somehow proof they are correct. We just need to call out nonsensical "news sources" who use these tactics.
 
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in germany, the survival rate for covid is 97. 5 %.

but just ignore that and tell yourself that the vax is the only thing that will save your life.
When the Mark comes, if it comes in our lifetime, Aidan1 will be the first on here to say "it's not the Mark, it's just new technology to save us from....blah blah balh....."
 
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