Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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God will not save America you say? Obviously you don't care about America nor will you be praying for us. Not only that you don't know or believe what the Bible says OR the nature of God and what He clearly has done for mankind...

John 3:16-17 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

The God of the Bible (the true God) is forgiving and gracious and He LOVES and seeks to save people NOT see them suffer and die. Your words are anti Bible and Anti God/anti Christ.

2 Chronicles 7:14
and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
That was my Bible reading last night...love John 3!
 
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Taken completely on its own, I would argue that article 11 does, in fact, establish that the United States is not a Christian government. However, and any respectable academic would agree, you cannot simply look at one piece of evidence to try and establish a historical (or any other) fact. In history, you must look at evidence that is contradictory in order to gain a more precise understanding of context. Take, for example, this 1798 proclamation from President John Adams, who was president when the Treaty of Tripoli was ratified, which states,
“[T]he safety and prosperity of nations ultimately and essentially depend on the protection and the blessing of Almighty God, and the national acknowledgment of this truth is not only an indispensable duty which the people owe to Him, but a duty whose natural influence is favorable to the promotion of that morality and piety without which social happiness can not [sic] exist nor the blessings of a free government be enjoyed.”​

I am merely pointing out that the United States Senate [DID PASS] this into Law.
Which means, they PASSED into LAW, [that the USA Government is not Founded upon Christian Values/Beliefs/Merits/Etc.

Yes, the Treaty was ratified when it was BROKEN, but there is still a LAW that [exists] "that the USA Government is not Founded upon Christian Values/Beliefs/Merits/Etc."
 
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This Vaccine was created under Trump and Pence's Watch.
If the Vaccination is connected to Satan, Trump sure fooled Israel by claiming Jerusalem as Rightful Capital and sure fooled Christians in America he was for them and a part of them! And Pence always uses the viewpoint of God first. I guess Trump and Pence are really Secret Devil Worshipers creating this End Times Vaccine!
 

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WOW AMAZING AMAZING Video!!
Sure puts more about America in perspective doesn't it?!!! Christianity has EVERYTHING to do with why America is great. (and any other country for that matter)

The account of Rev. John Marrent was incredible. I never even heard of this young man and he was only 13 and 14!! Not to mention ALL the other accounts of the black men and women who were involved in making America great. And the Americans who tried so hard to stop slavery along the way. It's always been a fight against good and evil.

I'm ashamed to be so ignorant about our founding fathers and their influencers.

So many American heroes of all colors that David Barton speaks of in this video and so many preachers that had SUCH faith. This was an inspiring and INFORMATIVE video thank you for posting it Shittim


Woodrow Wilson! WHAT A RACIST!! what a horrible man!!! I had NO idea. The 5 volume set he wrote was full of lies yet used in our government!!.

We are historically illiterate in so many areas BY DESIGN. 94 nations have not abolished slavery! Who knew??? I sure didn't! America is one of the countries that is actively fighting slavery today. God bless this man David Barten and men and women like him who are relentlessly putting out the truth. Thank GOD for truth.

This was so encouraging Shittim for me this morning. Thank you again.
 

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just saw this from a church in Canada, $274,500 fine for having services.

Communism sweeping across the world. God bless this brother and all others of our Christian family suffering tyranny from these despots. I believe Jesus is coming sooner than anticipated before!!
 

shittim

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Thank you joaniemarie, I am touched that I may have shared something of significance and blessing to you. You give so much to me from your posts.
You have high standards, His standards, I appreciate you.
Yes, we are pretty much all historically illiterate, a day or two ago we had a person on this thread alluding to some obscure document of little consequence seemingly to support an agenda that would further this iliteracy.
I place some here on ignore and believe we must in these last of the last days when there are so very many who by their own choice will seek out only what supports the adversaries agenda which is in opposition of the Galatans 5 attributes.
This I believe is in keeping with our guidance in Ephesians to turn away from those who are not walking in His truth.
I have shared the David Barton video quite a few times here on CC, yet still see many posts that cling to the erroneous view of history, this iliteracy is rampant. I have spoke with college "educated" who are spending huge amounts of money to be taught drivel from the adversary.

bless you in Jesus name.
 

joaniemarie

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I believe people should prayerfully research the benefits and risks of the vaccine and do what they fell in their heart is right, seeking guidance of the Holy Spirit.

I have mixed feelings about the vaccine. I have been considering getting one for weeks, but the fact that it does not always prevent you from getting COVID, does not always prevent spread of COVID, the fact that it is basically an experimental drug, the fact that there have been very harmful, even fatal side effects, the fact that the government and the media lie to us incessantly, the fact that EVERYTHING is a symptom of COVID, etc. the fact that the government practically acts like the vac offers little to no protection at all if you get the poke many things cause me to pause.

I think what’s bad is the division this is causing. And part of me thinks that this is a way to make those who are unvaccinated a scapegoat for future COVID spikes. If I could trust the statistics that are put out there, I wouldn’t be so skeptical, but I caught the government and media in too many lies the past several years.

I will probably get the poke eventually. But not because I get guilted into it. Logically, if others have the vac they should be safe. The fact that the government is acting like the pokes accomplish almost nothing is interesting.


Don't do it. My sister and her husband were forced to get the jab early in Sept here in NY and they did NOT want it. They were angry and sick that their livelihood and their soon retirement would be in danger so they submitted to being forced to take the jab.

Then only weeks later they found out through the grapevine their companies were getting a lot of push back from other employees who conflicted about this vaccine and then refused to submit and were going to take them to court. LATER this month my sisters companies owner said he will not force their employees to get the vaccine. Then later her husband's NYS company set back the time for forcing their employees to get the shot.

People are fighting these mandates now more than before. It's slow going but too many inconsistencies about this vaccine's safety and after effects cannot be ignored and more facts about covid are coming out every day.

You mentioned covid spikes.... It stands to REASON that allowing illegal infected aliens flood the boarders has SOMETHING to do with "spikes"

(Infected unvaccinated illegal aliens living under Texas bridges) While other illegal aliens are flooding boarder states while our illegitimate president and his corrupt staff DO NOTHING... All the while daring to ignore it and excuse it while at the SAME TIME trying to force American citizens to "DO THE RIGHT THING" and get vaccines and more vaccines and boosters for their own good and for the good of other citizens?

No., too many people are finding out more and more about the false information and will not submit. I hope you hold out and do nothing against your conscience or body because of these despots running our government right now.
 

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we are in ww3 and the ccp has infiltrated the fabric of our nation, the WHO, the CDC, FDA, ccp stooge J.B. and K. H. and the rest of the dems. Now the military is being attacked with the poison jab mandate.
Scripture told us ALL things will be shaken in these last of the last days.
 

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Yes, we are pretty much all historically illiterate, a day or two ago we had a person on this thread alluding to some obscure document of little consequence seemingly to support an agenda that would further this iliteracy.

Can't you still not have the Same Faith, same Outlook, same Hope, same Everything in GOD even learning things [are not] as you had believed?

Brother, in ALL things before Covid Vaccines, we still believed in Historical Lies, and even in our ignorance we STILL had Faith in God!

And even when we learn things were different all along than we had understood, does it matter concerning where our FAITH in God exists at?


You act like people are attacking you.
Are you a Victim?
Are you a Liberal?
Are you a Democrat?

They, ALL, want to be Victims too!
 

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Don't do it. My sister and her husband were forced to get the jab early in Sept here in NY and they did NOT want it. They were angry and sick that their livelihood and their soon retirement would be in danger so they submitted to being forced to take the jab.

Then only weeks later they found out through the grapevine their companies were getting a lot of push back from other employees who conflicted about this vaccine and then refused to submit and were going to take them to court. LATER this month my sisters companies owner said he will not force their employees to get the vaccine. Then later her husband's NYS company set back the time for forcing their employees to get the shot.

People are fighting these mandates now more than before. It's slow going but too many inconsistencies about this vaccine's safety and after effects cannot be ignored and more facts about covid are coming out every day.

You mentioned covid spikes.... It stands to REASON that allowing illegal infected aliens flood the boarders has SOMETHING to do with "spikes"

(Infected unvaccinated illegal aliens living under Texas bridges) While other illegal aliens are flooding boarder states while our illegitimate president and his corrupt staff DO NOTHING... All the while daring to ignore it and excuse it while at the SAME TIME trying to force American citizens to "DO THE RIGHT THING" and get vaccines and more vaccines and boosters for their own good and for the good of other citizens?

No., too many people are finding out more and more about the false information and will not submit. I hope you hold out and do nothing against your conscience or body because of these despots running our government right now.
Thank you for your comments. It does seem that a lot of things are pointing to a nefarious agenda. I am keeping my eyes open.
 

shittim

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Holy Spirit guides us in ALL truth. it truly is anefarious aganda with many evil players.
It is the CCP led ww3 meant to knock out the U.S.A.
 
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