As a thief in the night

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de-emerald

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Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭16:15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.


But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5:2-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:35-37‬ ‭KJV‬‬
yup this scripture does not warrant you to judge people with
 

Pilgrimshope

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oh ok so now your the humbe brother who is humble one second followed by i need to take your advice, which i would be happy to if you could stop using scripture to condem people with, satan will do the same, satan uses scripture to condem people rather than admit he is wrong, why does he do this, well its because he was once holy, and knows the holy language inside out, and is also very good at taking your thoughts captive. you really do have a thorn in your side.
you should look for people you can find some peace and agreement with , it will make your time here much more fruitful.
 

Pilgrimshope

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yup this scripture does not warrant you to judge people with
we already have his judgement

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged:

condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned:

forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:37-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Pilgrimshope

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yup this scripture does not warrant you to judge people with
if you feel judged because people quote scripture and discuss it , are you sure a Bible discussion forum is the right forum To participate in ?
 

de-emerald

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It interesting when we read 1thess 5:2

For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.

Jesus said Matthew 24:42

42Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is comingat an hour you do not expect.
hi mate we could live in fear, but if your house is in order then there is no need to, amos comes to mind here which is being prepared in advance to meet your maker, personally speeking mate, i like my friends to walk in through the front door with me. i dont like to outcast them, because they just feel abliged to hide,
 

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hi mate we could live in fear, but if your house is in order then there is no need to, amos comes to mind here which is being prepared in advance to meet your maker, personally speeking mate, i like my friends to walk in through the front door with me. i dont like to outcast them, because they just feel abliged to hide,
I see it like this I am too ready today to meet Jesus. but have the patience of a 100 years :)
 

de-emerald

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if you feel judged because people quote scripture and discuss it , are you sure a Bible discussion forum is the right forum To participate in ?
ive met so many peeople and listened to them judge everyone eles but them selves, and your no different, You can Judge me all you like and i have no problem in being judged by brothers here, and i welcome it, as long as its done lovingly, but your judging is that of a hiporcrit and a thorn in your side, so either pray and seek god for kindeness, and wise up, or carry on to Judge like the devil does, which is not allowing anyone to test if what you are sayin is of the spirit
 

CS1

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ive met so many peeople and listened to them judge everyone eles but them selves, and your no different, You can Judge me all you like and i have no problem in being judged by brothers here, and i welcome it, as long as its done lovingly, but your judging is that of a hiporcrit and a thorn in your side, so either pray and seek god for kindeness, and wise up, or carry on to Judge like the devil does, which is not allowing anyone to test if what you are sayin is of the spirit
I assume you are speaking to a person I can't see :)
 

de-emerald

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I see it like this I am too ready today to meet Jesus. but have the patience of a 100 years :)
This is good and something we should look to restore in each other, patience that is.
 

Pilgrimshope

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ive met so many peeople and listened to them judge everyone eles but them selves, and your no different, You can Judge me all you like and i have no problem in being judged by brothers here, and i welcome it, as long as its done lovingly, but your judging is that of a hiporcrit and a thorn in your side, so either pray and seek god for kindeness, and wise up, or carry on to Judge like the devil does, which is not allowing anyone to test if what you are sayin is of the spirit
it’s strange that you keep telling me I’ve judged you , what set you off was when I quoted this passage to you a few weeks ago

“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?

for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:10-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Is that what you are saying I’ve done to you ? Pointed to scripture that says you aren’t anyone else’s judge ?
 

de-emerald

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it’s strange that you keep telling me I’ve judged you , what set you off was when I quoted this passage to you a few weeks ago

“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?

for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:10-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Is that what you are saying I’ve done to you ? Pointed to scripture that says you aren’t anyone else’s judge ?
no why does you judge a brother was a phrase written in scripture 2000 years ago, and is also a phrase that could have ment, we are brothers and i love you and there is no need to Judge me for this instance. but also if i am not loving you then you must Judge me,

come tomorrow you may miss judge my motive and i may say why are you judging me brother in a figure of speech. for whatever you may miss judge my motives for tomorrow, which is what is happening here right now, you are miss repersenting this scripture, and applying it to everything, and you have to accept that you will and should be Judged, by brothers in christ for one big reason, to protect you
 

de-emerald

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yeah what Makes you think i would not want to have people have ther chin up. as for your bad reactions to my posts and your snidey remarks, im a much nicer person than you think i am, and as for you making somebody look bad by using friendship. well that just stinks and thats not christian, i would love people to have there chin up. but you want to cAll me pettey foR encouraging christians to stay away from smoking cigarettes,, and now your the latest troll to hound me.. so maybe you should be askin me to keep my chin up,, whats the bet that you and PILGRIMS ARE BOTH SMOKERS IN DENIAL
 

Pilgrimshope

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no why does you judge a brother was a phrase written in scripture 2000 years ago, and is also a phrase that could have ment, we are brothers and i love you and there is no need to Judge me for this instance. but also if i am not loving you then you must Judge me,

come tomorrow you may miss judge my motive and i may say why are you judging me brother in a figure of speech. for whatever you may miss judge my motives for tomorrow, which is what is happening here right now, you are miss repersenting this scripture, and applying it to everything, and you have to accept that you will and should be Judged, by brothers in christ for one big reason, to protect you
Protect me from what believing the scripture ?
 

Gardenias

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yeah what Makes you think i would not want to have people have ther chin up. as for your bad reactions to my posts and your snidey remarks, im a much nicer person than you think i am, and as for you making somebody look bad by using friendship. well that just stinks and thats not christian, i would love people to have there chin up. but you want to cAll me pettey foR encouraging christians to stay away from smoking cigarettes,, and now your the latest troll to hound me.. so maybe you should be askin me to keep my chin up,, whats the bet that you and PILGRIMS ARE BOTH SMOKERS IN DENIAL



Look,it seems to me as if you have a chip on your shoulders about something. Pilgrrimshope has always been nice in using scripture to NOT attack people but to try to edify.

I'm sorry if your having a bad time quitting smoking,I told you I took the med Wellbutrin which stops the craving for nicotine. Didn't decrease my nicotine by patches or gum.

Also I'm sorry for offending you but this seems an unnecessary attack against another.

You know we don't have to like the character we see in others but we do have to have love one to another!
 

Pilgrimshope

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yeah what Makes you think i would not want to have people have ther chin up. as for your bad reactions to my posts and your snidey remarks, im a much nicer person than you think i am, and as for you making somebody look bad by using friendship. well that just stinks and thats not christian, i would love people to have there chin up. but you want to cAll me pettey foR encouraging christians to stay away from smoking cigarettes,, and now your the latest troll to hound me.. so maybe you should be askin me to keep my chin up,, whats the bet that you and PILGRIMS ARE BOTH SMOKERS IN DENIAL
I’m a smoker in denial ? it’s pretty strange because I don’t smoke , will
You now accuse me of being a liar also even though you have never met me or asked if I smoke just assumed I guess through your amazing vision that sees through peoples hearts over the internet ?

but I knew this dates back to that conversation . My point was never that I smoke , my point was smoking is bad for someone , but it’s not your place to go around condemning smokers.
 

de-emerald

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Look,it seems to me as if you have a chip on your shoulders about something. Pilgrrimshope has always been nice in using scripture to NOT attack people but to try to edify.

I'm sorry if your having a bad time quitting smoking,I told you I took the med Wellbutrin which stops the craving for nicotine. Didn't decrease my nicotine by patches or gum.

Also I'm sorry for offending you but this seems an unnecessary attack against another.

You know we don't have to like the character we see in others but we do have to have love one to another!
im sorry to but this Judging game that we can not Judge each other is of the devil.. we must and we should judge each other, for better or worse for rich and for poorer for sickness and for health and for death untill we part.. for better and for worse and for the promise to love and obey. all tho you may think hey hang on a minute that only applies to marriage, between man and wife,, actually no it doesnt, we are one church one body and of one true God
 

de-emerald

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I’m a smoker in denial ? it’s pretty strange because I don’t smoke , will
You now accuse me of being a liar also even though you have never met me or asked if I smoke just assumed I guess through your amazing vision that sees through peoples hearts over the internet ?

but I knew this dates back to that conversation . My point was never that I smoke , my point was smoking is bad for someone , but it’s not your place to go around condemning smokers.
why did you become so offended in the smoking thread then ?
 

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Look,it seems to me as if you have a chip on your shoulders about something. Pilgrrimshope has always been nice in using scripture to NOT attack people but to try to edify.

I'm sorry if your having a bad time quitting smoking,I told you I took the med Wellbutrin which stops the craving for nicotine. Didn't decrease my nicotine by patches or gum.

Also I'm sorry for offending you but this seems an unnecessary attack against another.

You know we don't have to like the character we see in others but we do have to have love one to another!
I appreciate you sister , this dates back to a post when I quoted some scripture to her saying we aren’t supposed to judge one another. She thinks we’re supposed to judge each other , I believe Jesus is everyone’s judge by the gospel .


It’s just a difference in belief between her and I , and I consider it a blessing to be cared for by brothers and sisters such as yourself.

She’s upset because I don’t agree with some of her beliefs about one Christian judging another who might smoke cigarettes or have a tattoo , which o don’t and don’t , but had tried to explain to her that a tattoo or someone who’s addicted to smoking is far less of an issue than when we go around pointing out others sins and not looking at our own sins.

I think it’s a fundamental difference some her think 2000 year old scripture should be forgotten and doesn’t apply anymore , I don’t believe that I believe it’s going to read the same on judgement day when the books are opened.

it’s not an offense to me but a blessing and learning experience test of my patience . And even more of a blessing to have a sister like you stand with me in my defense. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️