Was Adam a giant compared to the height of modern day man?

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Nehemiah6 said:
There is no biblical evidence that Adam was a giant. Gigantism today is an anomaly. He did not need to fight any animals. He could probably speak to them and they would listen and obey.
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It’s an anomaly occurring most likely from a tumour on the pituitary gland. If something lives longer, generally it’s growth rate is congruent. Think about it. “Sons” of Adam didn’t even start having children until their eighties and nineties. This would be their comparative adolescence. It’s not like they were at home playing video games and watching television. When they could mate they would mate. That means they would be growing for almost a century. I’ve thought that for awhile. I posted it some time ago. Regardless, from that thread it was brought up that the 120 years was how long God gave man before the flood to occur, not to live after. I believe that once man started to eat meat post flood, it effected the lifespan.
 
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I was going through Genesis and a though suddenly crossed my mind. The Bible describes the fruit eating process in a way that suggests the height of Adam and Eve was four times the height the men of today.
From general knowledge is that the fruits of most trees are usually located at the top most apex of the tree, for example a mango tree which is mature might measure around more than 10 metres. Now if we assume the tree that Adam and Eve ate from were of the same height as the Mango tree and also the fruits being on top of the tree then if Adam was able to reach and pluck without climbing, then the impression of a giant is created.
**Second Proof that they were giants**
I want you to look at the time God allowed the pre flood generations to live on earth. Adam himself lived on earth for more than 800 years, in modern day that's a whole millenium, Adam was created a mature man, he was never an infant, only to God lol. Now lets take a look at Methuselah who lived for 969 years, Methuselah's case is different because he was born and was an infant. Do you want to tell me that someone will grow from being an infant and age at 969 years at the height of the men of today? I don't think so.
The more years they lived, so did they grow and grow because they were eating so they were simply giants.
After men sinned and God pained in his soul that his spirit will not remain in man for more than 120 years, then the life span of a human being was reduced and so did the height.
Because before the youth of a generation that came directly from Adam would begin at 200 years as a minimum for the case of Methuselah.

Adam was never going to fight dragons and dinosaurs with the stature of the men of today, he simply was a giant to equal a potential threat to the dinosaurs and dragons.
how we got short with time?
The curse before Noah's floods that his spirit was not going to remain with us longer
Climate change
Wars
Genetics and stuff.
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I’ve thought for awhile they were the giants. I concluded that more from how long they waited to have children. As far as a fruit tree, I’m all but certain that the story is metaphorical. The tree of Knowledge of right and wrong, the fruit is guilt. By knowing something is a sin then doing it produces guilt. The sacrifice system removes guilt. By believing the blood atones for sin, removes the guilt and restores us to God. The major difference post flood to effect lifespan is diet. Noah and his family were instructed to start eating meat.
 
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Trees can bear fruit at any height, though its popular to have dwarf trees in gardens.
You dont think people could climb trees? well how on earth did anyone ever get the good coconuts. wait for them to fall?
 
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Ok some people need to just go out to a garden or orchard and check out the fruit trees. My lemon is in a pot. And its not hard to climb a tree. Some trees just GIVE you fruit. They are like here, its all on the ground, or on this branch at eye level. Pick me.
 
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I do not believe his height is mentioned. Not that I recall anyway
 
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Hungry said:
I’ve thought for awhile they were the giants. I concluded that more from how long they waited to have children. As far as a fruit tree, I’m all but certain that the story is metaphorical. The tree of Knowledge of right and wrong, the fruit is guilt. By knowing something is a sin then doing it produces guilt. The sacrifice system removes guilt. By believing the blood atones for sin, removes the guilt and restores us to God. The major difference post flood to effect lifespan is diet. Noah and his family were instructed to start eating meat.
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Dude653 said:
I do not believe his height is mentioned. Not that I recall anyway
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Left out deliberately for later generations to figure out lol. There are a lot of things we can figure out on our own from the Bible, The list is endless
 
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Lanolin said:
Ok some people need to just go out to a garden or orchard and check out the fruit trees. My lemon is in a pot. And its not hard to climb a tree. Some trees just GIVE you fruit. They are like here, its all on the ground, or on this branch at eye level. Pick me.
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I have seen a special contraption that you can use to help you get to the top of the tree, they call it a ladder.

 
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Lanolin said:
Trees can bear fruit at any height, though its popular to have dwarf trees in gardens.
You dont think people could climb trees? well how on earth did anyone ever get the good coconuts. wait for them to fall?
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Giants?
 
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I have seen a special contraption that you can use to help you get to the top of the tree, they call it a ladder.

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Amazing what they can do these days! 😆
 
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Brother Timothy,the Word never does say, although like you I have a few questions as well that cannot be answered!! LOL For example When God dealt with the serpent,notice not the same as a snake,for a serpent like all things I believe walked upright on two feet before the Lord made him slide!! ( Gen 3:14-15) Also notice something else please,Adam and Eve NEVER saw God!!! They heard him!!! ( Gen 3:8) !! LOL
 
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TimothyGodIsLove said:
I was going through Genesis and a though suddenly crossed my mind. The Bible describes the fruit eating process in a way that suggests the height of Adam and Eve was four times the height the men of today.
From general knowledge is that the fruits of most trees are usually located at the top most apex of the tree, for example a mango tree which is mature might measure around more than 10 metres. Now if we assume the tree that Adam and Eve ate from were of the same height as the Mango tree and also the fruits being on top of the tree then if Adam was able to reach and pluck without climbing, then the impression of a giant is created.
**Second Proof that they were giants**
I want you to look at the time God allowed the pre flood generations to live on earth. Adam himself lived on earth for more than 800 years, in modern day that's a whole millenium, Adam was created a mature man, he was never an infant, only to God lol. Now lets take a look at Methuselah who lived for 969 years, Methuselah's case is different because he was born and was an infant. Do you want to tell me that someone will grow from being an infant and age at 969 years at the height of the men of today? I don't think so.
The more years they lived, so did they grow and grow because they were eating so they were simply giants.
After men sinned and God pained in his soul that his spirit will not remain in man for more than 120 years, then the life span of a human being was reduced and so did the height.
Because before the youth of a generation that came directly from Adam would begin at 200 years as a minimum for the case of Methuselah.

Adam was never going to fight dragons and dinosaurs with the stature of the men of today, he simply was a giant to equal a potential threat to the dinosaurs and dragons.
how we got short with time?
The curse before Noah's floods that his spirit was not going to remain with us longer
Climate change
Wars
Genetics and stuff.
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Why is this important?
Why would it matter?

What about all the other lessons possible to be learned from the Genesis account?
 
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JohnDB said:
Why is this important?
Why would it matter?

What about all the other lessons possible to be learned from the Genesis account?
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I think it's more a fun thing to contemplate and chat about than anything that makes or breaks salvation. Not really "important", but interesting.
 
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It's abstract, but god talked about gathering us under his wings and we where made in his likeness.
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that is not abstraction

God does not have actual wings. did you think God was going to gather together millions under His wings?

probably talking to the wall here....
 
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TimothyGodIsLove said:
I was going through Genesis and a though suddenly crossed my mind. The Bible describes the fruit eating process in a way that suggests the height of Adam and Eve was four times the height the men of today.
From general knowledge is that the fruits of most trees are usually located at the top most apex of the tree, for example a mango tree which is mature might measure around more than 10 metres. Now if we assume the tree that Adam and Eve ate from were of the same height as the Mango tree and also the fruits being on top of the tree then if Adam was able to reach and pluck without climbing, then the impression of a giant is created.
**Second Proof that they were giants**
I want you to look at the time God allowed the pre flood generations to live on earth. Adam himself lived on earth for more than 800 years, in modern day that's a whole millenium, Adam was created a mature man, he was never an infant, only to God lol. Now lets take a look at Methuselah who lived for 969 years, Methuselah's case is different because he was born and was an infant. Do you want to tell me that someone will grow from being an infant and age at 969 years at the height of the men of today? I don't think so.
The more years they lived, so did they grow and grow because they were eating so they were simply giants.
After men sinned and God pained in his soul that his spirit will not remain in man for more than 120 years, then the life span of a human being was reduced and so did the height.
Because before the youth of a generation that came directly from Adam would begin at 200 years as a minimum for the case of Methuselah.

Adam was never going to fight dragons and dinosaurs with the stature of the men of today, he simply was a giant to equal a potential threat to the dinosaurs and dragons.
how we got short with time?
The curse before Noah's floods that his spirit was not going to remain with us longer
Climate change
Wars
Genetics and stuff.
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I can't even...but here are some facts

the ONLY giants described in the Bible were the offspring of angels who left their first estate and human women (and of course you have people who do not think actual angels did anything....then why are they in chains because of their evil behavior but that's another story etc etc)

yeah

genetics and 'stuff' covid too
 
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rayzor said:
Genipher It is a partial truth that what we know limits us.In that since knowing can be the enemy of faith
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ummm

and yet scripture is explicit on God knowing us and we knowing Him

I do wish people would not simply offer partial truths or even their own thoughts when the Bible actually contains the information we should know

there's that word 'know' again. :unsure: :whistle:

knowing, knowledge, is not the enemy of faith. in fact, to know God, is to increase your faith
 
Lanolin

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You confusing Adam with Samson...or maybe Goliath

I am sure if Adam was a giant, the Bible would have said he was a giant and that Eve was a midget, if it was that important.
 
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SophieT said:
that is not abstraction

God does not have actual wings. did you think God was going to gather together millions under His wings?

probably talking to the wall here....
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SophieT no i can think, one day you may find most can not.
 
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Not sure if anyone is still monitoring this. But I'm going to share my opinion anyway, I don't ask that you believe, I ask that you proved me wrong.
It was not Adam that was the giant, It was Cain. That's why Cain was not accepted by Adam as his child and Played a huge role in our understanding of why Cain is not in the lineage of Adam.
 
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