The Mormon Church
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No. They deny the Father and the Son. They are tricky to deal with, as they use Christian terminology, but use it to mean things it doesn't. The basic examples are Jesus and God. They believe in a false Jesus, and a false god, but not The Jesus, and The God. They believe that their Jesus died to pay the penalty for sin, but only so people could rise to go to Heaven or Hell. They believe in Hell, but call it the "Outer darkness". "Hell" means something different to them.
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I attend one of their "Wards", and to me it is like eating a roast Turkey. I like mostly dark meat and some white meat if it is not overcooked. I don't bother with the bones, innards like liver and kidney, or the head and feet. For me, Churches are the same way. You accept the part you like and don't bother with the rest.
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I disagree. After seeing the differences in the Denominations I've been exposed to, the radical differences in the Eastern Orthodox, in Catholicism... It all seems relatively minor in terms of the Mormons. There are things about their doctrine that I do not accept, but I don't argue with them about them. If we can have a civil exchange about them, I will. If I am attacked, it won't work well.
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One of their scriptures reads we have the truth and the word of god.Also in one of there books it has god telling Abraham to lie.for a time in their books it has a black race listed as really ugly and cursed.but smith does say that south better change so as not to be cursed.,,one of their famous creeds is we believe the bible to be true when correctly translated.
Yes, I was reading, (in the Book of Mormon) where one of the tribes got a curse that turned their skin black. I thought that it was in my notes but I can not find it. Such a thing is not acceptable to me. Looking, it seems that they have had a long struggle with racism. Some sources call it the Mark of Cain.
What you mention are sore points with me. As to the lie, it is in Genesis 12:17 and though I have not read it carefully, it looks like it happens more than once. That is in the KJV and not a Mormon peculiarity.
Frankly, I am not a member and attend for Communion and the Music. I hate to mention this but I used to attend an ELCA Lutheran Church and was disappointed to find that every word in church is already printed in the Program. I tried a 1st Church of Christ, and won't talk about it. To me the Baptists were to bizarre. I've been to a Catholic church. I attended an AG Church in Honduras. It is why I try to bridge the gap with personal reading and study. My mother used to attend a church in Oklahoma that had a lay pastorate. She once told me that her father would come home drunk on Friday night, beat his wife and children, lay around hung over on Saturday, and preach fire and brimstone on Sunday. Sad, so sad.
What you mention are sore points with me. As to the lie, it is in Genesis 12:17 and though I have not read it carefully, it looks like it happens more than once. That is in the KJV and not a Mormon peculiarity.
Frankly, I am not a member and attend for Communion and the Music. I hate to mention this but I used to attend an ELCA Lutheran Church and was disappointed to find that every word in church is already printed in the Program. I tried a 1st Church of Christ, and won't talk about it. To me the Baptists were to bizarre. I've been to a Catholic church. I attended an AG Church in Honduras. It is why I try to bridge the gap with personal reading and study. My mother used to attend a church in Oklahoma that had a lay pastorate. She once told me that her father would come home drunk on Friday night, beat his wife and children, lay around hung over on Saturday, and preach fire and brimstone on Sunday. Sad, so sad.
I stand corrected he did not tell him to lie, but to be deceitful Abraham 2:24
22 And it came to pass when I was come near to enter into Egypt, the Lord said unto me: Behold, Sarai, thy wife, is a very fair woman to look upon;
23 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see her, they will say—She is his wife; and they will kill you, but they will save her alive; therefore see that ye do on this wise:
24 Let her say unto the Egyptians, she is thy sister, and thy soul shall live.
25 And it came to pass that I, Abraham, told Sarai, my wife, all that the Lord had said unto me—Therefore say unto them, I pray thee, thou art my sister, that it may be well with me for thy sake, and my soul shall live because of thee.
22 And it came to pass when I was come near to enter into Egypt, the Lord said unto me: Behold, Sarai, thy wife, is a very fair woman to look upon;
23 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see her, they will say—She is his wife; and they will kill you, but they will save her alive; therefore see that ye do on this wise:
24 Let her say unto the Egyptians, she is thy sister, and thy soul shall live.
25 And it came to pass that I, Abraham, told Sarai, my wife, all that the Lord had said unto me—Therefore say unto them, I pray thee, thou art my sister, that it may be well with me for thy sake, and my soul shall live because of thee.
Not being a "born" Mormon, for me the authority is the Bible. I am slowly learning not to mention in Sunday School where the BOM conflicts with the Bible. I am not sure how long I will last there.
I was saved in my late 20's in 1974 and was deeply involved in the church, going to Honduras twice and then Kenya and Israel. The reaction of people after 9/11 was disillusioning because I felt that 21 men did it, and many people I knew blamed the whole of the Arab people. In trying to figure out why they would attack us, I ended up becoming Muslim for nearly a decade. Later I became Mormon but that lasted only around 5 years. I do not know what will happen next.
I was saved in my late 20's in 1974 and was deeply involved in the church, going to Honduras twice and then Kenya and Israel. The reaction of people after 9/11 was disillusioning because I felt that 21 men did it, and many people I knew blamed the whole of the Arab people. In trying to figure out why they would attack us, I ended up becoming Muslim for nearly a decade. Later I became Mormon but that lasted only around 5 years. I do not know what will happen next.
Because we steal resources such as oil and that maybe why we don't pay our trade debt and we also bully nation that cling to other systems of government.We also control nations by debt But the Mormons had one thing right.The truth is there are only two nations, one of god an one of the devil.,,You see men not in control of government the devil is.
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You asked a question:: ""Are they Christian? "" And i said No.. Nothing uncivil about it.. A simple question and then a simple answer.. No malice or anger or combative attitude in the answer at all.. A simple one word No.. Mormons are not Christians.. And how in the name of God do you interpret my answer as a personal attack?? I never mentioned you at all in that simple NO answer..
Not sure why you brought up catholics and eastern Orthodox but as an ex - catholic who became a Christian in my early 20's catholics are not Christians either..
Again If i see a doctrine in a denomination that denies Jesus is LORD or denies salvation through the forgiveness of sins through trusting in the Atonement of Jesus i will not recognize that religion as Christian..
Yes there are a lot of differences in some Christian denominations but they are not core doctrines of salvational importance,, But minor issues,, Even when people get hot under the collar when discussing them..
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