Vaccination?

Because the accusations are patently false. Or do you think that it is acceptable to arrest people who have done nothing wrong?

I don't trust COVID to bypass me just because I don't trust the government. The governement of the state of Victoria is as close to Marxist as a democracy can get. The sooner they are thrown out, the better. However, it does not change the facts of the disease. 800 people died in the first stage of the pandemic, before vaccines were available. Since that time about 300 people have died. Vaccines and lockdowns work, no matter how unpalatable.

What's with the exclamation point (!)
looks and feels like you are yelling at me.


ya'll assume WAY TO MUCH.
I never said it was all people right here in my neck of the woods......
I have loved ones and acquaintances all over the world (as many of us who communicate online do).
And how the hell am I suppose to know everyone's family history and genetics?

Yeah, sure this would be good information to know and gather, but good luck with that!
Reports are not accurate and social media keeps the info people post to share censored.
All I know is that the ones I know who were eligible for 1st batch seemed okay.
Those I know/knew with round 2 ended up dead or ill or goofy.......
and some I know/knew who got round one and seemed okay followed by boosters ended up with troubles after the boost

okay, well freedom opinions, pro/anti vaxx stuff political issues all aside.........
A LOT of people I know who took this who were sweet and loving before have become bitter and nasty, even when dealing with issues that are in no way related to above list.
It's like their entire persona and personalities have been changed (in some, NOT ALL, but some.... enough that it raises red flags.)

WOw. Attitude much?

Your right, You don;t know who to trust

the left censures the right and the right censures the left.

Social media has distorted the truth. And you can find experts who will agree with you no matter what you believe

But it does matter. So many things go into the equation that could cause some people to react and others not to. If we could find this out. We would know who is safe and who is not

But no. Everyone wants to lie and say it is so dangerous and no one should take it. Yet it saves peoples lives.

I know of NO ONE who has had any more reaction to the shot other than flue like symptoms that last abut 5 hours, and a sore arm. I know MANY people who have had covid and a year later are still struggling with some symptoms.

I now know at least ten people who got the shot who were exposed to Covid. 3 of us had hardly any symptoms but tested positive. The rest of us suffered NO Symptoms and tested negative. The three off us who tested positive were high risk people who suffered from health issues that when mixed with covid usually led to long hospital stats and or death.

So people can tell me the vaccine does nt work until they are blue int he face. And post right wing news stories about how bad the vaccine is and how dangerous it is. And it will nto change my mind

Some people should take the vaccine, Some should not. Many do not have to and should not be forced. This political rambling and division of my country is for the birds. And will be the downfall of my country.

I am losing hope. Not because of some stupid vaccine. but because of how mad this vaccine has made everyone. Especially the antivaccers.

They know they have been deceived and have fallen for the lies?

Yes you have

BINGO

Give me an example of Independent news?

breitbart, infowars, the daily caller, zero hedge.

all good sources. and you can fact check ( not with the " fact check websites, they are just parroting mainstream media talking points, but doing your own research ) them all.

I have cited articles from Breibart on a different Christian forum and was immediately attacked by liberals on that site who accused me of supporting a radical right wing news source. Whenever someone posts an article from the Epoch Times on that same Christian forum, the liberals go ballistic and cry out "conspiracy theorist!"

Jake Kazmarek: 28-year-old New York bodybuilder says getting vaccine does not make him a “sheep,” dead four days after second Moderna mRNA injection

ROCHESTER, NEW YORK — A 28-year-old bodybuilder and FedEx driver is dead despite knowing the risks and seeing through the propaganda surrounding the injections and the medical industry at-large.

Mr. Jake Kazmarek would likely be classified as an “anti-vaxxer” by Fauci disciples. He insinuated in one post that big pharma is profiting off the so-called pandemic, without regard to public health.



He also recently posted about the obvious hustle known as American medicine.



Despite Mr. Kazmarek being fully aware of what’s happening, he succumbed to the pressure and the fallacious “vaccines equal freedom” narrative. Mr. Kazmarek received his first Moderna mRNA injection on August 31, according to a now-deleted Facebook post. He suffered no apparent adverse effects. But Mr. Kazmarek also did not comment publicly about his first injection.

He received his second Moderna mRNA injection on September 28. Mr. Kazmarek posted a photo of his “vaccine card” that day. He captioned the post saying “it is what it is” and suggested he only got the shots for his freedom. Mr. Kazmarek also asked a rhetorical question that he answered himself. “Does it make me a sheep? No,” he wrote.



Quick illness, quick death
Several individuals commented on Mr. Kazmarek’s post featuring his vaxx card. One woman said she recently got her Pfizer “booster” shot and suffered no adverse effects. Mr. Kazmarek not only made clear that he’s not a fan of boosters, but also was “not feeling good at all” one day after the second Moderna injection.



Two days after the second shot, on September 30, Mr. Kazmarek posted a link to a McGill University (Montreal) article entitled “I Felt Sick After Getting a Vaccine. Why?”


Mr. Kazmarek passed away on October 2. His widow, Cecelia, who was also his weightlifting partner, is having a difficult time dealing with the situation. The couple just celebrated their third wedding anniversary on August 18.


Mr. Kazmarek is also survived by his mother, father and two siblings.

Breitbart


Breitbart News Network, known commonly as Breitbart News, Breitbart, or Breitbart.com, is an American far-right[5] syndicated news, opinion and commentary[6][7] website founded in mid-2007 by American conservative commentator Andrew Breitbart, who conceived it as "the Huffington Post of the right"

InfoWars is an American far-right[2] conspiracy theory[3] and fake news website[1] owned by Alex Jones.[34][35] It was founded in 1999, and operates under Free Speech Systems LLC.[36]

Talk shows and other content for the site are created primarily in studios at an undisclosed location in an industrial area in the outskirts of Austin, Texas.[37] The InfoWars website receives approximately 10 million monthly visits, making its reach greater than some mainstream news websites such as The Economist and Newsweek.[38][39]

The Daily Caller is a right-wing[5] news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C. It was founded by now-Fox News host Tucker Carlson and political pundit Neil Patel in 2010. Launched as a "conservative answer to The Huffington Post", The Daily Caller quadrupled its audience and became profitable by 2012, surpassing several rival websites by 2013. The Daily Caller is a member of the White House press pool.[6]

Zero Hedge (or ZeroHedge) is a far-right[12] libertarian[17] financial blog,[13][14] presenting staff-written articles and aggregating news and opinions from external sources.[18] Zero Hedge, per its motto,[a] is bearish in its investment outlook and analysis, often deriving from its adherence to the Austrian School of economics and credit cycles.[22] While often labeled as a financial permabear,[23][24] Zero Hedge has also been described as a source of "cutting-edge news, rumors and gossip in the financial industry".[25]

Yep. These are independent sources alright

probably because they lean right. thats what you are going to see from now on. If a source leans left. they are a liberal souce. if they lean right, they are conservative.

The days of honest open independent news is Gone. I do not think we will see them again.

Its no different than how you would respond to a liberal news source

You just know Holy Spirit didn't guide him to get it.

Really? Well I lost two friends, both fully vaxxed. Everyone knows someone with an experience. Those are two I know personally. A friend said a friend of theirs took it and died a week later.


Well that's your circle, that's not the majority of people. Many people are not anti- vax, they are anti- this vax. I don't need to demand anything, this is my body and I get to decided what I put in it. That is my freedom. I have family that got the shot, I have family that hasn't. Not my business and I don't ask. I think the majority of people feel the same way. Last year nurses were heroes, now they are being fired. There's something wrong with that.



No, they have freedom in mind. And once you give up your freedom you don't get it back. You want to vax, go for it, and let people make their own decision what to put in their bodies. There are reasons people shouldn't get the shot, and yet there is no leeway. Shut up and do it. No, we have rights and freedoms to make that choice for ourselves.

Amen, and Thank You Brother for proving my point!

IF, and WE BOTH KNOW Prayer Works, and is the Best and Surest way to get God involved to fix it!

So, why did we NOT PRAY in 1973 Roe vs Wade, or 1980 when School Prayer and the 10 commandments were REMOVED from Schools and Court Houses, or when False Doctrines were infiltrating the Church, or allowing Same Sex people be Preachers of God's Word and Leader of God's People, or STOPPING the Seeker Friendly Churches, and the list is long here from the Past 50 Years!

We could have PRAYED and CHANGED the Outcomes!
But we did NOTHING and here we are!

So Essentially Brother, you are Praying for something that doesn't matter [Salvation Matters], when you consider all these other things that did Matter we ignored and NOW it is TOO LATE!!

You did make a broad Statement about knowing People who suffered.
Logically Speaking here, What You Posted should be inquired about from the Symptoms You went into detail describing.
And whether you believe it or not, between everyone participating in this Thread, Your Information does indeed greatly help in determining that from Batch Number One to Batch Number Two has [resulted] nothing alike. So Differently in fact, we should want to know why there is such a difference in Death Rate from [Less Than 1%] to Now [30%] Death Rate!!

And if I was yelling, you'd probably actually hear me