Vaccination?

well, it is written there.

and you can look at youtube for bill gates at ted talks talking about climate, carbon, and population control.

or books like " the future does not need us" , written by bill joy for wired magazine , 21 years ago

population control will never be mentioned on the 6 o'clock news, it is very much talked about behind the scenes..

where did I say this?
see that’s your problem you think everyone who disagrees with you thinks that
you have no comprehension to think of anything unless it agrees with you
government is not for me
Pharma is for the money (they are not going to do anything to hurt that cash flow)
And elite? You pay taxes don’t you? You find them
Just like do
I fear for you brother your not thinking straight

I never said it would vr
again if this vaccine was part of population control I would see it. I would see my coworkers die
My church brothers and sisters die my famuly Members die my coworkers die or get seriously ill or suffer severely.
I don’t see it
why?

it’s written there that there will be a virus come out of China and all the gifts of the world will get together and dream up this vaccine that is meant to kill billions and force people
To take it?

YOU, trusted them enough to inject their poison in your body.

And see? I told you had fear! Ya just said so in your last sentence!

They have given me no reason not to trust them. I been taking their medicine all my life. I know everything you take has risks.
Should I stop taking all Medicines ir just the one you hate?
Should I tell my family to throw their
Medicine in the trash and stop taking it because these
Companies are trying to kill us all so even aspirin is deadly?

Yeah I fear for yoy

You know I've stayed away from these threads BC it makes me get into the flesh!

Brethren be aware it is not flesh and blood we fight against!

I know several here are hard headed ,me included, but this is what Satan wants. It is not the virus nor the vaccine but to see brother against brother.

Taking away and tearing down from God gives him great pleasure! Let's not do this for him but rather let us GLORIFY God whether we've been vaccinated or not !

If you use this talk, then you should mention also the context in which Bill Gates explaines what he means with population controle Without this context you come to a false conclusion. As you obvious do.

I dont believe getting the vaccination is a lack of faith. We were taught to trust our doctors and what they say. I just dont believe in it because of so much misinformation I've seen about the vaccination, so it makes people like me a bit skeptical.

there is no context for population control.

Don't be stupid! We've been through this already in this thread.

The vaccine is NOT the mark of the beast. It is not even in the right place. (Hand or forehead!) a burn again Christian dies not Lise their salvation. After 41 years of following Christ, reading the Bible more than 55 times through, I know who my Redeemer is! I had my vaxes in my left upper arm. Not my right hand.

A choice for a medical procedure, either to have a vax or not, is not a salvic issue!

How does the Bible say we are saved? Whether we have a vaccine or not? Never!

"If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved." Roman's 10:9-10

Such a poor understanding of salvation you demonstrate by pulling this image out of the context of Revelation and the rest of the Bible, and start committing eisegesis. Worst hermeneutics I have seen.

You better get your heart right with God and confess your sin of wrong use of the Bible to condemn a fellow Christian.

This shows NO understanding of the m-RNA vaccine. For one thing, it is very fragile, which is why it has to be kept at such a low temperature, and with oil surrounding it. Once the vaccine is in the body, it starts the process of the body learning how to fight the COVID virus. Within 48 hours, 72 hours max, the vaccine has been broken down and excreted from the body.

No chemical reaction, at all, but biological. No long term side effects, because the virus is gone. A small number of people do have side effects immediately after the vax, or a day or two later. But the amount of side effects is so much lower than what COVID dies. I personally know many who have died from COVID, including a seminary professor of mine. I know many with serious long term effects, including some young, healthy pastors. The rain does fall on the just and unjust! (Matt 5:45) I know hundreds and hundreds of people who have been vaxed. I know 2 or 3 who have had a reaction stronger than a sore arm. But proportionally, the vax is so much milder & safer than getting the virus, and ruining your life or dying.

The survival rate for people who have COVID is much more complex than opting forth one simple number.
Age affects death. What country you live in affects the rate of survival. In Canada & the US we have good medical systems which have helped many survive death from COVID. Age, underlying health conditions also affect mortality!

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality.

I'll take John Hopkins university any day over some stupid conspiracy theory random forum!

"
A popular tweet this week, however, used the survival statistic without key context. “Unvaccinated, you can get COVID and have over 99% chance of survival. Get vaccinated and you can STILL get COVID and will still have over 99% chance of survival,” reads the tweet.

The message is misleading. The average for the entire country cannot be used to calculate an individual’s chance of dying from the virus. The likelihood that a COVID-19 infection will result in death increases with age and if the patient has a pre-existing condition."

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-970830023526

"Dr. Thomas Giordano, professor of medicine and section chief of infectious diseases at Baylor College of Medicine, said the tweet ignores the fact that many people who survive COVID-19 have long-term symptoms, and that people who survive it can spread the disease to high risk patients who will not be as lucky.

“One in 500 people in the U.S. has died from COVID. To try to trivialize it and say it’s nothing, it doesn’t matter, I think it’s just a gross mischaracterization of what we are all living through,” Giordano told The Associated Press in a call.

Furthermore, vaccinated people are far less likely to become severely ill or die from COVID-19 compared to unvaccinated people.

Most vaccinated people with breakthrough infections experience mild illness, Dr. William Moss, a vaccine expert at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told the AP.

Giordano said compared to the average COVID-19 death rate in the U.S., “you look at what the vaccines can do, they decrease the risk of death and severe illness by more than 90 percent, 95 percent in the randomized studies.”

Data from May showed nearly all U.S. deaths from the virus were among people who haven’t received the vaccine, AP reporting found. About 99.5% of all deaths from COVID-19 are in the unvaccinated, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky has said."

I have seen evidence in some older friends the vaccine is beneficial. Personally, I don't want the vaccine for myself and don't want to be forced to take it. I had covid this year. I had a fever for 10 days and very weak but my immune system fought it off. But I don't blame others if they choose the vaccine for themselves.

And this is fine. It’s called choice

Some are against this.

Not the first time these very words have been said
mark if the beast. A sign of total fear if you believe this

You now have natural God given immunity that is far superior to the shots.

How many died from COVID with zero underlying conditions? That’s the real number. COVID is a real sickness, no denying it. But have the numbers been inflated to fit an agenda? Absolutely!

On the other hand, there are people dying from the shot with under lying conditions, but are not being counted as a vaccine death. That’s hypocritical at the least.

Furthermore, most deaths could have been prevented with the frontline meds. These meds were suppressed by governments to push the shot. Why? What’s the agenda?

This is such a joke. For the last 20 years I have been taking needles full of chemo drugs! Sometimes daily, or weekly, or monthly or every 6 months, depending upon which biologic I was taking.

I don't think anything could be more toxic than chemo drugs! Even in the smaller doses I take. They all have side effects, and cancer can be a side effect.

For me, it is a matter of a cost benefit analysis. The price/cost is side effects, and injecting toxic pharmaceutical drugs into my body. The benefit has to be high, for me to play with the cost of these drugs to my body!

in fact, the benefit is huge! I go from completely bed ridden, unable to get out of bed to get to the bathroom in my own, to being able to function almost normally. The pain of RA is also excruciating and debilitating. And pain also means permanent deformities. So, I take a toxic drug, and the benefit is that I can live an almost normal life. Lying in bed in agony, being unable to move, is not living!

The vaccine is the same for me, except the cost is much lower. I had no reaction to the vaccines I took. The benefit is that my damaged lungs will be protected from COVID pneumonia, which would have killed me at the beginning. Of course my lungs have improved tremendously wearing a mask, a real mask with a carbon filter, that I gave not had a cold or pneumonia in 2 years.

The vaccine is a win-win situation. Almost no risk, but high returns of not being sick. It doesn't compare to what I take daily just to get out of bed!

Interesting studies have been done of life span with people who take toxic biologics like I have for 21 years. People who take DMARDs and biologics show they live 5-10 years longer than people who do not take these drugs. I'm sure the vax has also expanded many people's life span.

I was always into natural products, a vegetarian for 50 years, always grown my own veggies, I buy organic fruit locally. I do believe in staying away from too much processed foods, sugar, and chemicals in what I eat. But it did not stop me from getting RA, and it won't stop anyone from getting COVID.

I once made a list of the times I would have died without modem medicine. It would have been over 40 times. I am going to chose the lesser of 2 evils when it comes to meds versus disease. And meds are certainly much better me than dying of pneumonia or RA. Or COVID!