Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Aidan1

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A report from Health Impact News mentioned that the database maintained at EudraVigilance is only for countries in Europe who are part of the European Union (EU), which comprises 27 countries. That means, adverse reaction from the COVID vaccines would be much higher if we include all countries in Europe.
Here is the summary of data through November 13, 2021.
Total reactions for the mRNA vaccine Tozinameran (code BNT162b2, Comirnaty) from BioNTech/ Pfizer: 14,303 fatalities and 562,213 cases of adverse reaction to 11/13/2021 as identified in EudraVigilance:

  • Blood and lymphatic system disorders include 200 fatalities and 12,412 not recovered
  • Cardiac disorders include 2,095 fatalities and 10,336 not recovered
  • Congenital, familial and genetic disorders include 32 fatalities and 125 not recovered
  • Ear and labyrinth disorders include 10 fatalities and 7,561 not recovered
  • Endocrine disorders include 5 fatalitiesand 512 not recovered
  • Eye disorders include 31 fatalities and 6,636 not recovered
  • Gastrointestinal disorders include 573 fatalities and 25,520 not recovered
  • General disorders and administration site conditions include 4,057 fatalities and 82,029 not recovered
  • Hepatobiliary disorders include 73 fatalities and 334 not recovered
  • Immune system disorders include 74 fatalities and 1,911 not recovered
  • Infections and infestations include 1,545 fatalities and 11,502 not recovered
  • Injury, poisoning and procedural complications include 235 fatalities and 1,915 not recovered
  • Investigations include 440 fatalities and 7,080 not recovered
  • Metabolism and nutrition disorders include 247 fatalities and 2,249 not recovered
  • Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders include 177 fatalities and 45,626 not recovered
  • Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) include 111 fatalities and 369 not recovered
  • Nervous system disorders include 1,532 fatalities and 60,907 not recovered
  • Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions include 55 fatalities and 253 not recovered
  • Product issues include 2 fatalities and 26 not recovered
  • Psychiatric disorders include 172 fatalities and 6,633 not recovered
  • Renal and urinary disorders include 223 fatalities and 1,213 not recovered
  • Reproductive system and breast disorders include 5 fatalities and 19,918 not recovered
  • Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders include 1,599 fatalities and 15,449 not recovered
  • Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders include 123 fatalities and 17,883 not recovered
  • Social circumstances include 19 fatalities and 888 not recovered
  • Surgical and medical procedures include 55 fatalities and 237 not recovered
  • Vascular disorders include 613 fatalitiesand 8,618 not recovered
Total reactions for the mRNA vaccine mRNA-1273(CX-024414) from Moderna: 8,385 fatalities and 155,793 adverse reaction to 11/13/2021:



  • Blood and lymphatic system disorders incl. 94 fatalities and 2,977 not recovered
  • Cardiac disorders incl. 895 fatalities and 3,504 not recovered
  • Congenital, familial and genetic disorders incl. 6 fatalities and 52 not recovered
  • Ear and labyrinth disorders incl. 2 fatalities and 2,401 not recovered
  • Endocrine disorders incl. 3 fatalities and 160 not recovered
  • Eye disorders incl. 29 fatalities and 2,197 not recovered
  • Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 324 fatalities and 7,467 not recovered
  • General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 2,944 fatalities and 31,159 not recovered
  • Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 40 fatalitiesand 192 not recovered
  • Immune system disorders incl. 15 fatalities and 650 not recovered
  • Infections and infestations incl. 769 fatalities and 3,864 not recovered
  • Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 156 fatalities and 1,201 not recovered
  • Investigations incl. 136 fatalities and 1,883 not recovered
  • Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 204 fatalities and 1,048 not recovered
  • Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 170 fatalities and 14,145 not recovered
  • Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 65 fatalities and 193 not recovered
  • Nervous system disorders incl. 810 fatalities and 18,937 not recovered
  • Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 7 fatalities and 121 not recovered
  • Product issues incl. 2 fatalities and 5 not recovered
  • Psychiatric disorders incl. 140 fatalitiesand 2,118 not recovered
  • Renal and urinary disorders incl. 164 fatalities and 587 not recovered
  • Reproductive system and breast disorders incl. 7 fatalities and 3,554 not recovered
  • Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders incl. 900 fatalities and 5,291 not recovered
  • Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders incl. 76 fatalities and 6,658 not recovered
  • Social circumstances incl. 35 fatalitiesand 802 not recovered
  • Surgical and medical procedures incl. 77 fatalities and 268 not recovered
  • Vascular disorders incl. 315 fatalities and 2,788 not recovered
Total reactions for the COVID-19 vaccine JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S) from Johnson & Johnson: 1,793 fatalities and 37,038 adverse reaction to 11/13/2021:
Nice report. Nobody deneyed that the vaccine will have sideeffects!!! Thats worse enough.
But compare with the virus victims this sideeffects are nothing.
Nobody is listing up the effects, middle and longterm from the virus. Only the deaths are counted. These numbers alone convinces to be pro vaccine. Now you can add also the sideeffects of the virusinfection.
 

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Really? What if those so-called vaccines had on their labels POISONS and the skull and crossbones? Would you say that banning them, shunning them, and exposing their dangers was "hysteria"?

But that is exactly what they are, and the stats from VAERS and Eudravigilance confirms this. And these stats are probably a fraction of the true numbers. So should Christians be silent while governments and public health agencies administer poisons and kill off people and maim them for life?

"WOE UNTO THEM THAT CALL GOOD EVIL, AND EVIL GOOD".
Where are your proofs for your claime? Where are the millions death because of the vaccine.
It is today easy to claime things without proof. There are many people who believe this, only because it is written and claimed from certain people.
 
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Really? What if those so-called vaccines had on their labels POISONS and the skull and crossbones? Would you say that banning them, shunning them, and exposing their dangers was "hysteria"?

But that is exactly what they are, and the stats from VAERS and Eudravigilance confirms this. And these stats are probably a fraction of the true numbers. So should Christians be silent while governments and public health agencies administer poisons and kill off people and maim them for life?
You say What If and then you start bloviating opinion.

Bloviate
  1. talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way.
 

Aidan1

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And we have no clue of the 2 year, five year, or ten year efficacy of the shot. We can only hope that people are spared.
Thats correct. But be honest. How you can produce s vaccine and tell the people then, sorry you have to wait 5-10 years. We will wait till then to give it to you. If you survive.
 

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You can find Information for both sides. It depend which side you believe.
The frontline meds maby helps in some cases, but cant be can alternative for the vaccines.
Thanks for your medical opinion. How about this side?:

New York Times interview with:

dr. anthony s. fauci
Well, again, if you look at the comparison between unvaccinated people and vaccinated people, it is very, very clear that the overwhelming burden of infection, hospitalization and death is weighted towards the unvaccinated. Even though, and I’ll say, we clearly have hospitalizations among vaccinated people, particularly in the era of waning immunity, which gets me back to the time we spent in discussing how I feel about boosters.

What? I thought Fauci told us the vaccine would PROTECT us? So, WHAT is going on?
Oh, you need the vaccine, it WON'T protect you 100%, it wanes, so now Fauci
"feels something about boosters? Will they get you back to 100? OR, will they
ALSO "wane" and NOT protect??? Surely, I am NOT the medical expert he is,
but...


So if you are a vaccinated person, your family is vaccinated, and you are in a situation where the people that you interact with are vaccinated, you can have a very good holiday. You can enjoy the warmth and the companionship of your family in Thanksgiving. You could do the same thing over Christmas.

So, what's THIS - A CONTRADICTION by a medical prophet, who JUST SAID "due to WANING IMMUNITY of the vaccinated, THERE ARE HOSPITALIZATIONS of the
Vaccinated!"??? IF "some get HOSPITALIZED" HOW is that "a Very Good holiday"???

However, if you are among the unvaccinated and you get into winter, then you’re going to have a tough time. And I think there is a possibility that you will see an uptick in cases that will be disproportionately born as a burden among the unvaccinated. However, as we’ve said before, as that uptick occurs and you get more infections and more dynamics of infection spread in the community, that would put even the vaccinated at more risk.

What? MORE FALSE medical prophesying? A seer that knows the future? As I said ELSEWHERE, the THREE in my own {UNvaxxed} family have HAD THE covid,
recovered {THANKS BE TO GOD!}. Wait, NATURAL immunity WITHOUT a vax AND WITHOUT "OTHER" frontline meds???
Thank God for HIS Amazing GRACE, eh?

I DO NOT "know the future," but IF "God Allows" us to "have a TOUGH TIME," Then
"To The PRAISE Of The GLORY Of HIS GRACE," we will Certainly "glory in our
TRIBULATIONS!" (
Romans 5:1-5 cp 2 Corinthians 11:23-30) IF not, then, AMEN!
Amen?


...BUT, as a Serious BIBLE student, Neither am I one to Contradict myself, and tell
LIES. I do pray for him AND the government, as "Commanded By God," and HOPE

THEY ALL "will be saved," for God DOES SAY:

"ALL LIARS will have their place in the LAKE OF FIRE" (Rev), Correct?

HEAVEN SURE IS looking BETTER all the time (said my wonderful wife!)
;)
 

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Best wishes with it.
Keep praying, He indeed says no weapon formed against us will prosper, as we stay in Him.
 

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How you can produce s vaccine and tell the people then, sorry you have to wait 5-10 years. We will wait till then to give it to you.
I just came back from Walgreens,I got the moderna booster vaccination.
Guess I would DIStrust Pfizer AND the CDC, Also (Just trust God Alone):

https://www.libertyplanets.com/arti...isk-for-5-12-year-olds-requires-5-year-study/

Pfizer has finally admitted that they needed to do more clinical trials, and what was conducted was too short to determine the long term effects of myocarditis risk in children, according to a report they submitted to the FDA.

Perhaps they could have made this admission known BEFORE “vaccines” were approved for use in children aged 5-11 years old.
 

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Where are the millions death because of the vaccine. It is today easy to claime things without proof.
Hey, you have been IGNORING all the proofs that have been posted now for months. So the proofs are there, but the wilfully blind and the wilfully ignorant (such as yourself) say "Where are the proofs?"

Do you know that VAERS data is OFFICIAL data regarding vaccine deaths and injuries in the USA? Do you know that Eudravigilance is OFFICIAL date regarding vaccine deaths and vaccine injuries in the European Union? Go and check them out and then repent.
 

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You say What If and then you start bloviating opinion.
That is correct. All those bogus vaccines should have had "POISONS" on their labels since they are indeed poisons. But it looks like I hit a nerve. I'm "bloviating opinion" but you failed to check out VAERS and Eudravigilance since that would have demolished your ideas about these POISONS.
 

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The Swedish health agency said on Oct. 6, 2021 it would pause using the shot for people born in 1991 and later as data pointed to an increase of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths and young adults who had been vaccinated. Those conditions involve an inflammation of the heart or its lining (here).

The use of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine has been paused in Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Iceland for use in young people.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-europe-moderna-idUSL1N2RE22K
 

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The Swedish health agency said on Oct. 6, 2021 it would pause using the shot for people born in 1991 and later as data pointed to an increase of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths and young adults who had been vaccinated. Those conditions involve an inflammation of the heart or its lining (here).

The use of Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine has been paused in Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Iceland for use in young people.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-europe-moderna-idUSL1N2RE22K
Caveat: other countries are More Intelligent than USA? Is that WHY we're
25th in the world in education? :cry:

pandemic vaccine stopped after 53 deaths?:
Deaths following vaccination: What does the evidence show? www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Approximately 45 million people were vaccinated in 10 weeks with what became known as the “swine flu vaccine” [16]. The US government abruptly stopped the vaccination program when no swine flu cases were detected outside the military base where the disease originated and when an unexpectedly high number of cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome were reported in vaccinated individuals. The vaccine was estimated to have caused approximately one Guillain-Barré syndrome case per 100,000 persons vaccinated [17], resulting in 53 deaths [18]

How many vaccinated deaths will it take in the USA, before "the covid jab" is ABRUPTLY STOPPED by the Mandating gov't??? NEVER?

just wondering...
 

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Where are your proofs for your claime? Where are the millions death because of the vaccine.
It is today easy to claime things without proof. There are many people who believe this, only because it is written and claimed from certain people.
in germany, a country of 84 million people, as of today, there are 632,000 active covid cases.

if that number is doubled , then there is still a 98.5% chance that you will NOT come into contact with a person with covid.
prove a vax is needed to avoid covid when most do not come into contact with it anyway...
 

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@Angela53510 disagrees with "Natural Immunity"? or frontline meds? or, monoclonal antibodies? But agrees with Covid jab/Boosters/Mandates???
Angela has been taken captive by the devil. For her evil is good, and good is evil! So each time the truth is present, a BIG RED X is dumped on that post. I just hope she is not snitching on her neighbors who refuse to wear masks and refuse to take poisons into their bloodstreams.
 
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