Your faith does NOT make you perfect...

It bothers me, worries me that saying "Christ died for your sins" has become a platitude...
The God of Creation humbled Himself before His own creation... even unto death on a cross!!
How much more should we, not only humble ourselves before God, but also each other...

NO MAN CAN POSSIBLY FATHOM THE PERFECT MIND AND WILL OF GOD!

How dare any of you claim God's perfection as your own, while you still sin every moment of your lives out of ignorant arrogance!

WE ARE ONLY FORGIVEN BECAUSE ONLY GOD CAN FORGIVE!!!

Those who argue against the validity of the King James Bible are heaping to themselves teachers (in the translators of other versions) to tell them what their itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).

There is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4); even the Father (John 4:23-24) who was incarnated in flesh in the Person of Jesus Christ.

So, Jesus' Spirit was not created...rather, He is the everlasting God.

Why then, are we commanded to forgive in holy scripture?

Some people are nit pickers, oh well.

When it comes to the Trinity, I believe that sound doctrine is important.

For it is a doctrine that is essential to salvation.

This may not be scriptural, but I tend to look at the Trinity this way...

The perfect most holy Father in the third level of heaven which our minds can't even comprehend...

The word of God, the God of creation from the beginning who commands the Spirit, bound exclusively to the will of the Father...

The Spirit, the very action and power of God's word...

And, we do well to believe in one God (James 2:19).

God didn’t create people to be sinners. While, yes, people do sin regularly it doesn’t mean people are sinning all of the time. There isn’t a verse that says people sin every moment. It just says they if people sin they can confess their sins to God. It’s just better to have a more realistic view of sin because that’s healthier.

Jesus taught conditional forgiveness. He said if someone repents then forgive them. If someone doesn’t repent, many people won’t, then forgiveness isn’t required.

However, there are a lot of Bible verses they say to forgive each other, not mentioning Luke 17:4. Like, many things in the Bible, rarely is there a standalone verse that defines a doctrine. The doctrine of forgiving others technically requires others to repent. That’s sola scriptura.

Luke 17:4
4And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

Gen6-5
The LORD saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.

And so shall it be when Christ returns...

I take solace in the fact that God has already paid the price!

Yet, what I was responding to was the idea that only God can forgive.

The Bible says that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked (Jeremiah 17:9).

So, the only time in which we, as sinners, might not sin, would be when we are not walking according to the flesh but according to the Spirit of the Lord who has come to dwell within us.

Iow, it is only when Christ is living His life in and through us that we do not sin.

When we are the ones who are living our lives, we cannot do anything but sin.

In Romans 3:23, the words "come short" are in the present passive indicative.

And, this means that we come short of the glory of God, any time we are passive concerning the pursuit of God.

When we are actively seeking Him, His kingdom, and His righteousness (Matthew 6:33), it is in those moments that Hebrews 10:14 (kjv) comes into play.

Being born again means that we will seek the Lord, His kingdom, and His righteousness consistently for ever more.

Thus we will not come short of the glory of God; for He has perfected for ever them who are sanctified (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv)).

I get it... But when do you stop and say, NO! YOU NO LONGER GET TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY GENEROUS CHRISTIAN NATURE! When do you draw the line because your neighbor has made himself your enemy, and you a fool, BECAUSE YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN!

All the arguing on this site makes me ill... Makes me question how many Christians are actually here. This is "cyberspace" after all...

I think that there is a difference between "arguing" and "contending for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" (Jude 1:3-4).

"every lawyer, every politician". Really? Here we are talking about Yeshua/Jesus Christ who is truth yet you said that. How in the world is just talking back and forth arguing? Also referring to some questions that other believers asked calling them "stupid" when "someone" talked about "humble our selfs to God and to each other?" Now my self I do take caps and bold text a certain way but thats just me.

So faith does not make you perfect.. ok where is this coming from? Did you think you were perfect or someones been saying this? Righteousness.. I am in right standing with God. I am seated in heavenly places.. I can always come boldly before Him. None of this is possible if I have any kind of sin in me. See God sees me through what Christ has already done. I am the righteousness of God. I have the mind of Christ in me who thought it not robbery to be called equal with God. I am one with Christ and He and the Father and the sweet holy Spirit are one. The Father sees me as a finished work..which is ALL because of Christ that I must have faith in. Our Father.. everything must be faith.. with out it we can never please Him. He calls those things that be not as though they were. YES all this mattes comes in to play. Hard for some to grasp.. yet having faith in what Christ said and did.. amen.

So how does GOD see YOU right now? Is that not what you are? Not how YOU see yourself. How does GOD right now see you?

I'll not be a hindrance... Have your way.

I totally agree.

To the world we are not perfect, but we are of God not the world. When we give our will to the Lord and listen to His voice with faith (repent) we are considered perfect.