How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

I agree with what you have posted, because it's correct. But, the resurrection of the dead happens after the Great Tribulation which is this timeframe:

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


There was not a resurrection of the dead before the Great Tribulation started.

Ask Charlie--he knows. And I simple called it like it is--did you read any of David Tree's post to me?

The resurrection of Rev. 20 is the resurrection of only the tribulation saints who were saved during the tribulation.

The saints who have died in Christ before the tribulation were raptured in 1 Thes. 2 as Paul told us.

The Revelation 20 resurrection is when the resurrection of all the dead in Christ takes place. Revelation 20 only focuses upon that one group but all the dead in Christ rise at that same time. Also, the dead are never raptured. The living are raptured, not resurrected and the dead are resurrected not raptured. The former dead descend from heaven with Christ, while the changed living saints ascend upwards from the Earth.

OK, if the living are raptured and receive glorified bodies, and the dead are resurrected and receive resurrected bodies, at the same time, how does the earth repopulate during the 1000 yrs?

Remember, only the saved are allowed into the 1000 yrs, as Matt. 25:31-46 says.

The resurrection of Rev. 20 is the resurrection of only the tribulation saints who were saved during the tribulation.

I've answered that maybe 3 times already.



No, the unsaved are ruled over in the thousand years according to Revelation 2, 19, and 20.

Read Matt. 24:31-46 and you will see that is not true!

That's not even the part of the bible that talks about the thousand years! Sheesh, it's in Revelation 20.


Rev 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

That is the second coming. Everything we read of next comes after the second coming:

Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

After "the end" comes, there is given power over the nations to those that are overcomers which naturally includes those who "are alive and remain" at the second coming. They will be given power over the nations after Christ has returned not before it. Compare to this:

Mat_10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mat_24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

After the second coming and after "the end" will the overcomers be given power over the nations, ruling them with a rod of iron. That proves the rod of iron rule over the nations for a thousand years does not even start until Christ has returned and has given overcomers this power to rule over the nations.



No surprise that this matches what is found in the second coming passage in Revelation 19:

Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Again we find the nations being ruled (future tense verb) by a rod of iron AFTER the second coming exactly as Premill teaches. If everyone is killed, who is going to be ruled over by the rod of iron in both passages? Obviously Amil's "global slaughter" theology is false.



There are things Jesus has to accomplish when he returns:



1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.


That is the rule of the rod of iron with his saints and it lasts a thousand years and that thousand years does not begin until he returns according to Rev 20 and Rev 2.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Rev 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

The nations will come and worship before Christ.

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

Only by the time of the end of the thousand year rod of iron rule over the nations does Christ deliver up the kingdom to his Father. The Father will destroy Satan's army with fire, throw Satan and the unsaved into the LOF then the saved will enter into the NHNE and the eternal kingdom.

There is much information that comes from outside the book of Rev. that sheds light on the end.

If you read the scripture I have shown you that becomes clear.

Yeah, and the angels operate of their own accord - got it.

And the passage from Matthew 24 is unrelated to the thousand years or who enters into it. However, the verses I posted are related to the thousand years and who enters it. You didn't even read my post. You replied far to fast and cannot debate against anything I posted so you throw out this lame non-response.

Matt. 25:31-46, I have posted it at least 6 times and when someone is willing to read it I get the chapter wrong!

It's Matt. 25:31-46

Matt. 25:31-46, I have posted it at least 6 times and when someone is willing to read it I get the chapter wrong!

It's Matt. 25:31-46

That's still not related to who enters the thousand years. The passages I posted show who enters the thousand years and it's the surviving mortal nations that Christ and the immortal saints rule with a rod of iron.

Jesus plainly welcomed the saved into His kingdom and the saved unsaved were sent to everlasting punishment.

Meaning only the saved will enter into the 1000 year reign.

Correct.

(I edited your post to the correct wording that you'd meant )


But, yes... and Jesus spoke of this THROUGHOUT the Gospels, not merely in Matt25:31-46.

Thank you, I didn't see that! I just full of brain cramps today!

Ewq, I considered you a 'friend on this site--but sending this was a low blow and uncalled for--what purposed did it serve, but just to get your dig in.

The majority doesn't always mean someone is right, but the vast majority of Christians understand the highly symbolic language of Revelation and do not take the 1000 years literally.

OK, if that's the way you see it, I won't argue. There is no way we will ever see it the same!

Jesus plainly welcomed the saved into His kingdom and the saved were sent to everlasting punishment.

Meaning only the saved will enter into the 1000 year reign.